Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

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Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #15 – January 22, 2009, 06:15:10 AM

Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;252957

Who wants to bet that IF this engine makes it to production...IF it has 350-400 hp, and IF it really is all that and a sack of chips..that some GM-lovin smartass will say that Ford still can't beat GM with 2 more valves and cams? lol

Of course. Because if it was the other way around, you know the Ford guy would be getting his digs in too.

Just try to imagine the Camaro/Firebird guys have been enduring from the Mustang crowd since their cars stopped being produced. The rivalry is the best thing for both sides, btw.

My personal opinion of the MOD motors? The switch to OHC didn't do Ford's V8s a hell of a lot of good. I think they should have kept developing the 302 family of engines like GM did with their small block. Remember the first ZR1, with the DOHC Lotus heads? Great motor, but GM decided the bigger package and higher cost wasn't worth the global change. With today's new LSX, I'd have to agree with them.

Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #16 – January 22, 2009, 08:42:10 AM

I'd always wondered what could have came from the Windsor had Ford continued its development... maybe a split port setup like the 3.8.. an aluminum block... more CI (like maybe an "official" short deck 347 stroker, an "official" tall deck 427, etc)

Alas, we'll never see. As for the modular: It was a bit slow out of the gates, but gradual improvements have made it into a decent engine.

Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #17 – January 22, 2009, 12:25:13 PM

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;252966

I'd always wondered what could have came from the Windsor had Ford continued its development... maybe a split port setup like the 3.8.. an aluminum block... more CI (like maybe an "official" short deck 347 stroker, an "official" tall deck 427, etc)

Alas, we'll never see. As for the modular: It was a bit slow out of the gates, but gradual improvements have made it into a decent engine.

I'd bet that with those same gradual improvements, the Windsor would still be making more power in a smaller, lighter, cheaper package. From what I can scrounge up, the last 5.0L Mustang was making 240hp, which is pretty small potatoes compared to the newest and best OHV V8s. That's going on 15 years ago now, and you know they could have made vast improvements in this crucial last decade.

I'd love to see a modernised 5.0L OHV tested next to this upcoming 5.0L MOD. But like you said, we'll never know.

Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #18 – January 22, 2009, 12:53:56 PM

Although not a true evolution of the Windsor engine; the new "FR9" NASCAR engine is probably about as close as you will get to a modern version of a Ford pushrod V8.

http://www.frontstretch.com/ncpr/22125/

Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #19 – January 22, 2009, 01:25:36 PM

I guess some of the (idle) rumors that the new 5L would be pushrod were not true. I still like the 5L moniker - it'll be nice to hear people discussing 5L engines again, though it may get confusing!

I'll take the blown 400RWHP as well, though after drivetrain and driving the blower losses, it actually uses 520 HP worth of fuel (flywheel HP).

Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #20 – January 22, 2009, 01:38:08 PM

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I'll take the blown 400RWHP as well, though after drivetrain and driving the blower losses, it actually uses 520 HP worth of fuel (flywheel HP).

Everything's a trade off

Ford 5.0L Coyote MOD spied + DSG style sequential manual unveiled

Reply #21 – January 22, 2009, 01:47:32 PM

40 HP well spent IMHO