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Friggin Frusterating Fluids

Hello all,

      Long live liquids :mad:

      I always thought that the AOD tranny in 87 and 88 used the Ford Type F transmission fluid.  Am I right or wrong?

      The Haynes DIY indicates for C3, AOD, A4LD trannys for 83-87 to use Dexron II, while the 88 C3, AOD, A4LD tranny's use Mercon.

      Bottom line question... what type of tranny fluid should I use in my stock 1988 Cougar XR7, AOD (20 yrs old, and still shifting great)?  Type F (part no. XT-1-QF), Dexron II (part no. XT-2-QDX) or Mercon (part no. AT-2-QDX), or even something else?
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Reply #1
mercon/dexron III

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Reply #2
What is the difference between Dexron III and II?
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Reply #3
I

Sorry, I Thought it was a math question
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Reply #4
I've used nothing but "F" in my SC AOD since I installed it back in '99... It's lived through close to 700 drag strip passes... I switched to "F" in '93 Grand Marquis AODE in '98 when it started slipping on the 1-2 shift at 33K mi... With the help of a B&M electronic shift improver, it lasted till last year with 131K on the clock... Failure then was the front pump to housing gasket...

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Reply #5
Im no expert, but Type F, was sure as hell not called for in these AOD's.

I will use Mercon IV or whatever it is, when I change mine.  Maybe its Mercon V, I dunno.
Mike

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Reply #6
Quote from: mcb82gt;236771
Im no expert, but Type F, was sure as hell not called for in these AOD's.

Obviously...

"F" isn't as greasy as the Dextron/Mercon fluids and gives a firmer shift(most of the GM racers use it in their trans as well) ... Doesn't have the durability, so in a street application it should be changed at about 20K mi...

Quote from: mcb82gt;236771
I will use Mercon IV or whatever it is, when I change mine.  Maybe its Mercon V, I dunno.

You should not use Mercron V in the older transmissions, as there is a said comparability issue with some of the seals... Whether it's a real problem, I honestly don't know...

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Reply #7
So, bottom line, I should use Dexron III?

What's the difference between Dexron II and III?  The Haynes manual calls for DexII, not III.
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Reply #8
personally, I've only used what was stamped on the dipstick for my cougar.
but I do remember using type F in my 88 E-250 with aod.
never had any problems with it.
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Reply #9
Quote from: cougarXLS;236790
So, bottom line, I should use Dexron III?

What's the difference between Dexron II and III?  The Haynes manual calls for DexII, not III.


Dexron III supercedes II...simplest answer.  Have fun.
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Reply #10
Okay.

Anyway, I've done some pretty silly, stupid things in my life.  But this one's a topper:  thanks daminc.  I merely gazed at the tranny dipstick: Mercon.  LOL, all these years thinking it was Type F.

So my next question, for curiosity's sake, is what's the difference between Dexron and Mercon?
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Reply #11
Quote from: cougarXLS;236859
what's the difference between Dexron and Mercon?


GM markets one Ford the other... AFIK no difference...

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Reply #12
So I should just walk in to my local parts store (in my case, NAPA) and ask for Mercon Transmission Fluid for an 88 Cougar and they'll hand me the *whatever equivalent* for Mercon?

This is obviously a new area for me, as I've been using Type F forever.  LOL, I wonder if that's why I've had so many tranny problems over the years.............
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Reply #13
, after reviewing this post: I have ALOT to learn.  LOL


.............. duh.  Read the dipstick stupid.

Lol, just thought I'd beat anyone to the punch.
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Reply #14
Read the Mercon III bottle, it should tell what all it replaces.