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UPDATE>>FINISHED...The Sport needs help.....

I was hot rodding a little at lunch today,and I think I over-revved and pushed the Sport too hard I could smell some clutch (yuk).After that,the car has a slight shudder to it.I had a shudder like that before with the Sport and it turned out to be a loose rocker arm.I checked them and they were fine.I checked the plugs,all good,changed the oil (unrelated,it was time anyway),and the shudder remains.The battery was disconnected for about an hour while I was checking the rockers and anything else I could see.Any ideas ?????? I knew the car was running too good to be true.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #1 –
sounds like you clutch is fuct
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Reply #2 –
Warped flywheel????

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Reply #3 –
Warped flywheel?That sucks.I have another clutch in the garage..I can't figure what else it would be.I'm open to all ideas.I'll talk to my friend who has a spare flywheel.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..
 

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Reply #4 –
i'll bet a burned out clutch. I did that in my dads 300 i-6 van when the tranny went out and I only had 3rd gear. 3rd gear was suited for freeway and 4th was pretty much for down hill or 70+ mph.

It shuddered lick when you throw a tire while driving off road.
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Reply #5 –
How do you warp a flywheel?
Didn't know that could be done.
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Reply #6 –
my first thoughts after reading your post was you blew off a vac line somewhere.

If the clutch feels the same, you prob didnt blow it apart ,, and likely didnt warp the flywheel.  They are kinda small but it takes some good hot temps to warp em.
next, check intake gaskets.  You might have to troubleshoot a little more than you want.  Do a compression test to.

Looking at your specs, i hope carma didnt come down on you since the recent topics of PTV clearances.  thats why i said to do a compression test as unlikely as it is, not checking is worse than not knowing.  the option that you floated a valve isnt out until you do check, either that or cracked compression ring.

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Reply #7 –
Warping a flywheel is very easy actually.
If you overheat it, it's just like a big brake rotor,the surface will no longer be flat and will cause chattering,depending on how bad possible vibration issues may arise as well.

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Reply #8 –
The car doesn't have any "chattering".I did clay the engine before the E303 went in.The tranny seems to go into gear fine,but when I went into second,the rpms climbed,the car was moving,but not as fast as the rpms were climbing.Maybe I glazed the clutch. this sucks.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;234134
I had a shudder like that before wioth the Sport and it turned out to be a loose rocker arm.I checked them and they were fine.


If the clutch is holding OK, forget it...

Now if you over revved it and "floated" the valves, I'd suspect one or more being bent... Run a compression check...

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Reply #10 –
I think I over revved it.As far as the clutch,I'm unsure.As I stated above,when I'm giving the car gas,the power just isn't getting to the road.The rpms on the tach climb,but the car seems sluggish.I may be pulling heads on my days off.I hope not,but I may be.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #11 –
if you arent getting the power to road across a wide band of rpm,, sure sign of one thing in common.

dont write off the clutch cause that just might be it,, but now you should do a compression test.

you dont have to pull the tranny to swap the clutch,, just install two super long bolts in the top of the bell,, remove the rest of the bolts , d/s ect.  slide it back on the two bolts while the ass end rests on the cross memeber.

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Reply #12 –
Nice idea for the tranny.I'm unsure of the clutch.I'm leaving all options open.I'm going to try to hook up with a friend who has a compression tester and see what I can see.Come to think of it,a few of the push rods spun rather easily even after the rockers were re-snugged.BUT,would  bent pushrod spin that easy or just be loose?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

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Reply #13 –
well then you just might be in luck to "one" of the things in common.  you just pushed the lifters too far but not far enough to shoot pushrod arrows through the hood.  buy your own compression tester , my advance one is good enough and they will take it back when it fails for life.

stop the worries, do some tests, then get your thoughts straight.  Its just an engine with a little trouble.

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Reply #14 –
You should be able to see a bent pushrod,spinning it in its hole.
Autozone clutch wont take a lot of abuse.Like said do a compression check,it will rule out a few things,or confirm them.
Also take all the spark plugs out to do it.
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