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July 18, 2008, 12:28:04 AM

I went and bought a new radiator and started searching the Local Junk yards for parts cars. Low and behold I found an 87 and an 88 TC sitting side by side at a place up the road. I found that both cars were somewhat complete. One ran good. He was able to even start it for me. Good to know if I need the motor it is there. I realize these cars have IHI turbos which from what I have read is a downgrade but how much of a downgrade? I was looking for about 18 pounds of boost from the old Garrett turbo. I read that the IHI can do that but that is about it. What is the diference in spool times and low end? I have never looked at one of these. I have already bought the turbo because it was Kinda a package deal. I got the turbo, intercooler, hood, hinges (86 xr7 has a hood prop, theses have springs :D ), brackets, hoses, clamps and bolts for $175. I figure the hood and intercooler was worth that. Is the turbo worth putting on my car? that is the question. Also One of the cars has a Tremek T-5 in it. He said I could have the trans with the bell, clutch, flywheel, pedal assembly, shifter, and all the workings for the swap for $250. sounds like a helluvadeal to me. These cars have a lot of parts and they are due for the crusher in a few months, any requests?

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Reply #1 – July 18, 2008, 09:07:26 AM

If I remember correctly 18psi is maxed out for an IHI. Spool times I can't help you on I've only had a t-3 or t-3/t-4. Do either of them have a full set of snowflake wheels. Those would be nice to have. Where are you located.

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Reply #2 – July 18, 2008, 05:33:48 PM

The IHI spools up a little quicker, but also "runs out" quicker in the top end. I swapped a T3 into my '87 and enjoyed it much more, but the IHI is still very satisfying.

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Reply #3 – July 18, 2008, 08:08:24 PM

do either fo the cars have an auto trans in it? Where is this yard?

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Reply #4 – July 18, 2008, 11:39:26 PM

Yeah thats what I have read is that it can make about 18 psi and that is it. I was going to shoot for 15 for my fist go on this car, I think I will put it on and start getting all the bugs worked out first. Then go back to the Garrett later when I am ready for upgrades. I dont know about the wheels. they are not on the car but he may have them. One of them does have the auto in it and he said he will gaurantee it is good. Said he drove it in there. The yard is in Findlay ohio. I did want to ask though. I read that the 87 turbo coupe with a five speed made 190 hp. Since I have the turbo, intercooler and hood that will pretty much give me the same set up right? But I also heard the auto only made 150 which was detuned by the computer by the use of the boost solonoid. With that being said I have a C-3 in my car. I do plan to do that T-5 swap this winter. Should I grab the ECM out of the manual car and what kind of ponies will I make with this setup on my current car? 86 cat xr7. makes sense to me that my car non intercooled was set up to make 145. adding the intercooler and a little extra boost would get there. BTW I will not be using the boost control sol on the 86.

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Reply #5 – July 19, 2008, 12:16:18 AM

I tell you to grab the Large VAM if you don't have it. Then make sure you have Brown top 35lbs/hr injectors. I would telll you to grab the ECM out of the car. You might need to repin and even add a few wires with the Newer ECU. You can get that info on turboford.org I reall love the hood it looks great, but it only really effective at higher speeds. So for best results I suggest you front mount the Factory Top mount unit. Just takes a little piping and some time to work it all out. Do lots of research to find what is best for your power goals.

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Reply #6 – July 19, 2008, 02:01:14 AM

Do I have to have the new ecm for the large vam. Honestly I dont want to get into to much work for minimal gains because in the end I do plan on going MAF. I was just grabbing this top mount intercooler for now because I found the hood and all, together and so cheap. Like I said just want to get it running and get the bugs out, probly then go T-5 swap, Next on the list will be front mount with a rotated upper. Likely to be done all at the same time as the turbo swap and cam. Thanks for the info though. I have been doing a ton of reading on these cars and trying to figure out which direction to go.

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Reply #7 – July 19, 2008, 08:02:31 AM

The ECU isn't required for the VAM up size. I've been running the Large VAM with my PC1 ECU for many years now. Runs great and no problems or codes. I know the PC1 calls for the small VAM but sometimes you just gotta do what you feel is best.

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Reply #8 – July 19, 2008, 09:55:48 AM

Quote from: ipsd;227966

Do either of them have a full set of snowflake wheels. Those would be nice to have. Where are you located.

I have a full set with center caps

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Reply #9 – July 19, 2008, 01:13:52 PM

Sweet. I will grab the big vam and the ECU out of the T-5 car. Will wait on the ECU change for a while. Question is still unanswered of how they "detune" the auto car. Will I need the ECU to get the full power, or will it not matter since I have and older car without the boost sol? and btw, Yes I do have the brown top injectors. I also wanted to ask. I put the radiator in my car and got that all strait. My temp gauge does not work but the fan does cycle on and off. Does it have different sending units it uses or do I have an electrical problem inside the car?

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Reply #10 – July 19, 2008, 01:15:20 PM

the boost sol only lets the auto car build up i think 6psi?? that and the comp is what does it. Changed them on my dads auto when we did that 5 speed swap, and she screams now

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Reply #11 – July 19, 2008, 01:41:13 PM

What exactly do you mean by the comp? Like I said I wont use the sol, I will put a manual controller in and set it to about 15 psi. That should get it to run. Poor thing is sad right now, locked up turbo and all.

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Reply #12 – July 19, 2008, 06:48:04 PM

I do believe that he means the comp= the computer. The BCS=boost control selenoid that does control the boost so if you have it unhooked then it won't limit your boost. The only other thing I know that the puter does is change the timing tables. Then the newer the puter the faster the processor.

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Reply #13 – July 19, 2008, 09:32:42 PM

Quote from: ipsd;228161

. Then the newer the puter the faster the processor.

AFIK all EEC-IV processors run at 15Mhz...

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Reply #14 – July 19, 2008, 10:57:56 PM

Quote from: TurboCoupe50;228179

AFIK all EEC-IV processors run at 15Mhz...

OK so maybe it has a better prog that does the same job quicker. I always understood it as the newer units worked faster and are faster to respond to changes. That is how they always seem to explain it over at Turboford.org. Thought that was a easy way to sum it up. I guess not.