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Ford makes the retros truely unique Mustangs

I guess Ford is just really bad at keeping secrets, but very good at denying them. :D

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=125413

I don't know if this means they're screwing '05-'08 owners, but a five year run with one model on a unique (as far as Mustangs go) platform means Fords retro mustang will be getting less of an aftermarket than the old Foxes have. All performance shops will be jumping on the next-gen platform bandwagon, whilst the current car will be completely left as is. I can't see anyone continue to develop parts for what is, in the grand scheme of things, a short production run that is yesterday's news. Once these cars enter the realm of 'old mustangs', I think the trendiness will be gone, as will the appeal of these cars for future rodders.

The Fox cars still get a lot of attention, but this is a perfect example of a cult car that lived on for a quarter century, and is extremely cheap to buy and modify, (There are still new parts being designed for the Fox Mustang). Something you can't say about the current car, and I think being so unique I can see parts scarcity being an issue very fast, as junkyard parts disappear early.

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Reading a little more, did they just say TT 5.0L V8? Yeah, the retro-stangs are going to be yesterday's news FAST!

Ford makes the retros truely unique Mustangs

Reply #1 –
no it will be a TT V6 from the lincoln line up.  still it will have 340hp....  but the fuel mileage of a 6

Ford makes the retros truely unique Mustangs

Reply #2 –
Read the article and you'll see what I'm talking about. This is the first I've heard of a TTV8 too.

Ford's new RWD platform is being engineered to accommodate both V6 and V8 engines, including the new twin-turbo gasoline direct-injection TwinForce power plants that are being developed in Dearborn, as well as the company's new dual-clutch six-speed PowerShift transmission. Among the TwinForce engines reportedly under development for North America are a 3.5-liter V6 and a 5.0-liter V8.

Ford makes the retros truely unique Mustangs

Reply #3 –
The only problem I see with that article is the statement: "Ford needs to lock in a plan soon for the next-generation Mustang, especially with the new Camaro and Challenger breathing down its neck."

The Camaro and Challenger are not even in the competition. They will be much heavier and priced much higher than Mustangs. The car For really has to worry about is the Hyundai coupe. - similar power specs for less money in a more modern car that will appeal to foreign car enthusiasts (young people).
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Ford makes the retros truely unique Mustangs

Reply #4 –
If they produce a V8 powered Mustang that runs 12.2's in the quarter as delivered from the factory for under $35,000 I'm all over it.  For an extra grand I'd consider a paddle style shifter.  It has to be 2 door though.

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The car For really has to worry about is the Hyundai coupe


Have you seen the KIA as well?  V8 300+ HP
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Reply #5 –
Why do you think Ford feels the need to try and camouflage them?
These are standard production '08 Falcon’s.

And if you are going to “try” and hide these from the American public that doesn’t know what they really are, then why have the cars painted in such loud colors?

The probably would have drawn less attention if they would have left them alone and not dressed them up.

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: oldraven;212166
I guess Ford is just really bad at keeping secrets, but very good at denying them. :D

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=125413

I don't know if this means they're screwing '05-'08 owners, but a five year run with one model on a unique (as far as Mustangs go) platform means Fords retro mustang will be getting less of an aftermarket than the old Foxes have. All performance shops will be jumping on the next-gen platform bandwagon, whilst the current car will be completely left as is. I can't see anyone continue to develop parts for what is, in the grand scheme of things, a short production run that is yesterday's news. Once these cars enter the realm of 'old mustangs', I think the trendiness will be gone, as will the appeal of these cars for future rodders.

The Fox cars still get a lot of attention, but this is a perfect example of a cult car that lived on for a quarter century, and is extremely cheap to buy and modify, (There are still new parts being designed for the Fox Mustang). Something you can't say about the current car, and I think being so unique I can see parts scarcity being an issue very fast, as junkyard parts disappear early.

*edit*

Reading a little more, did they just say TT 5.0L V8? Yeah, the retro-stangs are going to be yesterday's news FAST!


The 05-08 mustangs have very little to worry about when it comes to aftermarket parts or parts in general. Have you seen the afftermarket backing for these cars, im sure your well aware of the fact that they make everything from billet turn signal levers to superchargers. Have you ever looked in a jegs catalogue? The cars have pages and pages and pages of parts to order, hell they even have parts you've never heard of. Fact is these cars will never be like are fox cars when it comes to aftermarket because most of the current mustang owners are enthusiasts.

"Ford's Australian subsidiary is doing much of the initial engineering work on a new family of rear-wheel-drive coupes and sedans for the U.S. for model-year 2012."

If the current mustang has to wait tell 2012 to be referbished, then  the current mustang owners will have very little to worry about when it comes to parts, however the cars trendiness may subside considerably.
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Reply #7 –
Quote from: turbo88;212189

"Ford's Australian subsidiary is doing much of the initial engineering work on a new family of rear-wheel-drive coupes and sedans for the U.S. for model-year 2012."

If the current mustang has to wait tell 2012 to be referbished, then  the current mustang owners will have very little to worry about when it comes to parts, however the cars trendiness may subside considerably.


You noticed that as well... Thru '11 is going to give the current Stang a 7 year run...

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Reply #8 –
Quote from: BCA;212183
Why do you think Ford feels the need to try and camouflage them?
These are standard production '08 Falcon’s.

And if you are going to “try” and hide these from the American public that doesn’t know what they really are, then why have the cars painted in such loud colors?

The probably would have drawn less attention if they would have left them alone and not dressed them up.

Brent
:cougarsmily:


People like you and I would know an '08 Falcon at a half a glance, and you can bet there are a lot of people in Detroit who are the same. The fact that every time Ford pops the gas cap on one of these things it gets photographed and plastered all over the web, proves that they need the camo. As for the colours, have you seen the Falcon lineup? :P The Falcon wouldn't know a subtle colour if it hit it in the face, and the XR's would probably die if they were painted maroon. I can't see Ford repainting them just to slap camo on.

And what makes you think Ford doesn't want us to see this car, or know about its plans? ;) GM has pretty much dared spy photographers to get any of their new products in development on film (card), and has even released its own 'spy shots' over the last six months. They're trying to create a hype, and I'd have to say it's working wonders.

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Reply #9 –
I noticed in the "spy" shots that Ford borrowed some of that ugly side mouldings from Pontiac.:D
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Reply #10 –
The Camo most likely hides different lights and stuff of that nature that really doesn't change the vehicle silhouette. 

As far as parts development for the S-197...
I hardly think the aftermarket will turn away.  By the end of the '05 model year more products had been developed drivetrainwise for the S-197 then ever for the 2v motors and at better prices too. 
Your comparing it to the modern day equivalent of the Chevy 350. 

The 5.0 is cheap, plentiful, easy to work on, and easy to get power out of.  It's a no brainer to make aftermarket parts and develop new ones for the car that was made an icon by perhaps the only decent low buck performance V8 motor to come out of the '80's (the key is low buck -- with GM you had to pay to play and Chrysler, well....1989 Fifth Avenue, 'nuff said).

Unfortunately the aftermarket is only now starting to see the Catbirds as a platform (and barely seeing it at that)for development and only because the attrition rate on the Mustangs has driven good examples to higher prices.
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Reply #11 –
Well, I also predict that the Mod motor is going to be the modern equivalent of the 305. Compared with the 302 and the prospects of a TT 5.0L (most likely DOHC, since I can't see them dropping that switch) V8, it will very likely be seen as that '' V8 Ford made in the Otts. You may disagree, but I don't think the engine has come close to living up to Ford's claims and promises when they unveiled the high-tech high-dollar Modular that wasn't really a modular. (Let's try not to make a flame war over the 4.6L, O.K.? If you want to argue that point, there are already lots of topics on it, and this isn't one. I'd rather keep this thread about what the upcoming Falstang means for the current one. By all means, say what you want, but it would suck to have the next three pages about how the 4.6L was developed by God.)

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Reply #12 –
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By all means, say what you want, but it would suck to have the next three pages about how the 4.6L was developed by God.)


:hick: You started it :hick:

The 3V is MILES ahead of the 2v.  The 2v NEVER lived up to it's potential because of the lame duck development team who felt it was "good enough"

I think someone will be smart enough to develop an conversion kit to make older motors direct injection type systems.  Most likely it'll be a head/cam/intake package deal with some electronics to go with it.  Hell, I hope this new 5.0 is a pushrod.  Imagine bolting a factory direct injection to the existing motor and getting 350+HP and great gas mileage in a car that doesn't weigh 2+ tons:D
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Reply #13 –
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;212192
You noticed that as well... Thru '11 is going to give the current Stang a 7 year run...


I think of the 87-88 Catbirds and wish the run was more like 4-5 years.  Refresh should be in '09 and redo in '11, which is probably what I would think they would do.

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Reply #14 –
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