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A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #45 –
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My reply in post #32 was to Paul's statement in #29. 80,000 gallons is a lot of fuel


Yes 80,000 gallons is a lot.


I SAID POUNDS!  :hick:
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A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #46 –
Durrrrr :dunce: I knew I was going to miss something posting so late.

A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #47 –
Quote from: JeremyB;210483
I'm not saying what I have sourced is the be-all end-all. But the chart you posted is incorrect and cannot be used to compare automobile/airplane fuel efficiencies. One must have at least resonably correct data before one can interpreit it.


I deleted the chart - I should have looked at the chart more carefully before posting it. PPV (auto) is closer to 1.6 & avg MPG is lower & I couldn't find the backup data following the reference (Center for Transportation Research, Argonne National Laboratory) so I apologize for posting that .

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The quote saying "Flying creates 13 percent of transportation-generated carbon dioxide worldwide" is somewhat vague. ...


So when you quote the same 2003 Sierra Club article later here, it's suddenly not so vague? :P (I'll give you that it was in context of a more complete explanation.)
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A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #48 –
Oil prices are going to crash eventually. The shorts are going to make a killing! I wish I had some money to short oil futures because the oil price chart looks like a bubble that's getting ready to burst. My theory is that market speculation is driving the price more than actual demand at this point. I suspect alot of it is short covering but once the shorts get it right they're gonna pound that price into the ground to the point that the long contract holders are gonna have to bail and the price will probably over correct to the down side. Which will be great for the end user.

All that's lacking for this to happen is a catalyst... Such as a new large oil discovery, tapping into an older one (ND) or ambiotic oil (deep earth, not fossil).

I could be wrong or way off but that's how I see it and if I had some cash I'd be putting money on it too!
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A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #49 –
Quote from: Cougar5.0;210590
So when you quote the same 2003 Sierra Club article later here, it's suddenly not so vague? :P (I'll give you that it was in context of a more complete explanation.)
Heh. :hick:

By vague, I meant to the hypothesis that seemed to be being discussed: Aviation is a large contributor to US emissions and should be regulated more stringently like CAFE does to automobiles.
The Sierra Club quote is for worldwide figures, while we are talking about the US. Also, it gave no data for automobile emissions, so a comparison of relative badness could not be made. That being said, I had the EPA data, and the SC data agreed somewhat with the EPA so I put it in to have more data points.
Niggling points, but data buttstuffysis is part of my job and the attention to detail makes for proper comparison of data.

I share your views on partisan presentations of issues. It is a pain to have to come to a conclusion on an issue when each side  vehemently thinks it is correct.
 

A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #50 –
Quote from: Dogcharmer;210602
Oil prices are going to crash eventually. The shorts are going to make a killing! I wish I had some money to short oil futures because the oil price chart looks like a bubble that's getting ready to burst. My theory is that market speculation is driving the price more than actual demand at this point. I suspect alot of it is short covering but once the shorts get it right they're gonna pound that price into the ground to the point that the long contract holders are gonna have to bail and the price will probably over correct to the down side. Which will be great for the end user.

All that's lacking for this to happen is a catalyst... Such as a new large oil discovery, tapping into an older one (ND) or ambiotic oil (deep earth, not fossil).
 

I could be wrong or way off but that's how I see it and if I had some cash I'd be putting money on it too!

That is EXACTLY what is going to happen. Only a fool pays more for something than it's worth, and that is exactly what speculators are doing. They're in a feeding frenzy, using each other's greed to drive the price of oil well beyond what the traditional "supply and demand" system will support. They're doing it because right now they view it (and by "it" I mean not only oil, but other commodities as well) as a safe haven compared to other market sectors that happen to be going through a big correction right now.

I think the catalyst may even be simpler, though - these speculators buy oil at a price and hope they can sell it at a higher price in a month or two. Sooner or later, that "month or two" will come and there won't be anybody to buy the oil because people are using less (in other words, we know it's overpriced and are buying less because of it). The speculators will then panic because they've either got to sell the oil they'd bought or take delivery of it, and very few investment banks have oil storage tanks lying around. As with anything else on Wall Street, the panic will feed itself (speculators will be anxious to trim their losses so they'll want to sell quickly), and the price will crash dramatically over a very short period.

Then, about two years later, we'll see the price start dropping (very reluctantly) at the pumps.
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A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #51 –
SO,,
we lost how many miles of which polar ice cap yesterday?  IT was on yahoo the wife said.

A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #52 –
Quote from: jcassity;211081
SO,,
we lost how many miles of which polar ice cap yesterday?  IT was on yahoo the wife said.


I just read that yesterday as well. All I could do is shake my head at the people who said "We got lots of snow. Global Warming doesn't exist!" :rolleyes: I know there was at least one thread on here that was making that statement, and a large majority of people were giving their "Hells yeah!" comments.

A Car Guy's Take on Global Warming.

Reply #54 –
A good read;)
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