AOD popping out of gear

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AOD popping out of gear

Reply #30 – February 19, 2008, 09:27:54 PM

Quote from: Sick88Tbird;205154

Is the car still dropping out of gear occasionally? Ford's valvebodies are known for warping...and often times you'll get sold a complete rebuild at a tranny shop...

....and if you buy a new trans over a simple improperly torqued valve body, you got had my friend. Valve bodies have always had to be properly torqued, otherwise, you get cross bleed which can be pretty ugly, but I have never had one that could not be fixed by a simple retorque of the valve body, or worst case, flattening the surface of the VB or the case.

AOD popping out of gear

Reply #31 – February 19, 2008, 11:55:20 PM

I'm picking up a recently rebuilt aod from someone tomorrow so it can just be bolted in and go. Its cheap so I figure why not, instead of playing all these games. All these problems at once is driving me insane.

AOD popping out of gear

Reply #32 – March 05, 2008, 01:43:37 AM

well, just so you know, I cured my slipping problem. First i followed the instructions and had little or no change.

I decided to just try out different locations of where the plastic clip would lock in.

first attempt was ,,oh shiznit,, that cant be right.

Second attempt,, not a single slip to this point and i am satisfied with the results.

AOD popping out of gear

Reply #33 – March 05, 2008, 08:35:10 AM

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Second attempt,, not a single slip to this point and i am satisfied with the results.

And where is the clip now just out of curiosity?

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Reply #34 – March 05, 2008, 10:43:37 AM

see pic,,
What is yours set at based on the perspective i have below?
The pic is not my car, stole the pic. Does my setting sound correct to you and others?

AOD popping out of gear

Reply #35 – March 05, 2008, 11:17:18 AM

A little tighter than that. The crimp in that pic SHOULD be resting on the plastic...

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Reply #36 – March 05, 2008, 03:43:29 PM

i just thought i'd add my 2 cents in.... about 1500 miles ago i put in a "new" aod that came out from behind a mustang 5.0l. it was sold with the motor and the guy who sold it to me used the motor and sold the trans. well i put the trans in and on cold starts when i come to a stop in 2nd gear, it'll pop out of gear. does it about 5 times then once water temp is up it works fine. i personally think its the mystery converter i put in the car with the trans.

but for it to be slipping out of gear sounds like my old transmission which burned up. no matter what gear it'd slip till it wouldnt grab at all. i've noticed second gear in my trans slips from going 1st-2nd but it feels like a stock transmission which has done a 1st-2nd burn out and its slightly rubed 2nd gear wrong. it defntly wouldnt do well at the track. but again, all gears slipping sounds like bs. i mean for a new trans that is.. you said you had papers? i say take it back n have them check over the clutchpacks. or are the clutchpacks original after the rebuild?

AOD popping out of gear

Reply #37 – March 07, 2008, 12:10:17 AM

Quote from: V8Demon;207770

A little tighter than that. The crimp in that pic SHOULD be resting on the plastic...

again, that pic is not my car. i just stole the pic for convienience.

My cable crimp rests on the plastic. what measurement do you have based on my illustration?

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Reply #38 – March 07, 2008, 12:25:46 AM

Quote from: jcassity;208053

again, that pic is not my car. i just stole the pic for convienience.

My cable crimp rests on the plastic. what measurement do you have based on my illustration?

I think it varies from car to car. I have mine set to the MAX mark (so it upshifts at 5,000 rpm with my foot to the floor). I could go out and measure it for you but it may not be right for your TV cable. It depends on how streached/not streached the cable is, manufacturing variations ect.

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Reply #39 – March 07, 2008, 08:16:31 AM

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I think it varies from car to car.

True.

Scott I have to measure. The TransGo shift kit with the swapped out rev governor changes my shift points a bit too.

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Reply #40 – March 10, 2008, 12:10:01 PM

I got a transmission in that the tag shows its originally from a '91 Mustang. I have a question about this now though - what were the stalls between the two? I still need to go back up and check the cable one more time as it may just be shifting high due to the tv cable, but before when ~30mph, the old tranny would always downshift. The new one doesn't until upper 30's. I would assume OD is later as well but I need to check that when I next see the car.

After a minute of running, going from park or neutral into drive or reverse goes into gear hard/jerks entire car. Driving on the street, the transmission hangs around 2000-2200 rpm's much more often and it pulls going up hills much better due to this - the old would downshift earlier and want to stay in the higher gear until more throttle was applied. Everything shifts smooth as it is right now though and going from shifter in 1st to drive causes firm 2-3 shifts with no slippage. Throttle response due to the higher revs during most conditions is excellent.

The transmission took 9 quarts of new oil and isn't slipping so I assume its internally in great shape.

Last couple of issues - 1) the shifter in 1, D, OD, and N are right on the marks but reverse is engaged before the marking and park engages with lots of slop before I press the shifter hard forward to get the thing to lock. The shifter bracket on the tranny is almost perfectly flat unlike the one that came off the old one which had a zigzag shape.

2) I'm not sure what it was as I put a new water pump on, but something was sounding like a squirrel cage somewhere after the transmission. It was intermittent and after driving it around for a few miles, the sound went away. Should this and some other weird higher pitched "spinning" noise that seems to have gone away be worrisome?

edit:
and I readjusted the tv cable. The adjustment was 1/4" further out than with the old transmission.

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Reply #41 – March 11, 2008, 12:52:35 AM

I just wish everyone with normal setups could go measure per the illustration i marked up.

That pic is not my car but the measurement is still the only thing that matters.

If we all conclude to a ball park number such as 1 1/8'' to 1 1/4'', then thats pretty much all we need.

all my problems went away by relocating the slide part back towards the fire wall and locking it down.

only tools needed was a tiny jewlers screwdriver, leaving the air duct loose to get it out of the way each time i checked.

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Reply #42 – March 11, 2008, 01:45:09 AM

A normal screwdriver works fine for me? Obviously, moving the adjuster closer to the firewall causes more tension and more fluid pressure and the opposite gives less pressure. I think after that, as long as you're not too low, its a lot of personal preference as to how hard it shifts and when.

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Reply #43 – March 11, 2008, 01:57:22 AM

the truth of the matter is this........

the previous models such as the CFI applications were not so ,,,humm,,, delicate.

the older models had a TV rod that goes to the transmission. All there is a set screw that you ajust which translated an angle down to the transmission valve body.

On these setups,, a similar design would have been much simpler and easier to fine tune. I would invision a set screw appication up on the trottle body as well but these have a funky clip and slider thing and spring.

I suppose instead of complaining,, just deal with it and always remember,,
"it is what it is"

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Reply #44 – March 12, 2008, 10:47:04 AM

Seek, you have raised shift points due to the trans being out of a '91 Mustang. Mustangs had a different governer on the tailshaft for higher shift points, the TV cable is not the only thing that controls shift timing, the governer does too.