chugging and being hard to get along with

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chugging and being hard to get along with

February 06, 2008, 03:37:07 PM

As you all know I just converted my car to 5speed. Well, theres an issue thats been in the car since I got it. its a little more prevalent now.

It used to be it'd go through 1 and drive fine. then it hit OD and started chugging and losing power.

well, it does it now... but through 1-2-3-4-5 and it does it the worst in 5th.

Im using all SD stuff i havent played with the timing yet or anything

The EGR is unplugged and the hose is plugged.

Its bogging almost as if it has no ass to it. I dont dare put it in 5th unless i wanna rattle parts off the car. I just put new universals in it today. and i believe the shake is excessive due to a bad motor mount. but it still did this even before the 5speed swap just chuggin like none other.

HELP!

Clayton

chugging and being hard to get along with

Reply #1 – February 06, 2008, 05:58:21 PM

You're still running the SO right? Perhaps the SO computer doesn't like the 5 speed. Have you checked your TPS, IAC, ect? Set the proper base timing (10*)? Have you scanned for codes?

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Reply #2 – February 06, 2008, 09:56:44 PM

it did it with the aod. iac is functioning afaik im runnin about 12* in the timing. its actin like its dropped a cylender. im gonna do a compression test tomorow.

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Reply #3 – February 06, 2008, 10:05:28 PM

a bad or burned up clutch does the same thing...

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Reply #4 – February 06, 2008, 10:10:29 PM

Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;202545

As you all know I just converted my car to 5speed. Well, theres an issue thats been in the car since I got it. its a little more prevalent now.

brand new clutch. its jarring the shiznit out of me. it did it with the automatic at about 45+mph cruising speed.

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Reply #5 – February 06, 2008, 11:25:52 PM

Mine did that and I had to shim the roller rockers.All fixed.Now I have the new cam and heads,no worries.Timing also could be the culprit.I also had a vibration around 65 to 70 mph,and while I was swapping cam and heads,I looked at my harmonic balancer,bad news.I swapped it out,no more troubles.I wish you luck my friend.

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Reply #6 – February 07, 2008, 12:10:45 AM

i just hope its somthing stupid. Or else im gonna force myself to save up gobs and gobs of cashola. (gonna do that anyway but... not as fast)

im gonna hopefully be buildin a 400hp NA motor.

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Reply #7 – February 07, 2008, 12:25:58 AM

Dumb question but are you sure you don't have a messed up plug wire? How close are the wires routed? Perhaps it's cross firing?

Maybe the car is just mad that you're driving it in the snow ;)

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Reply #8 – February 07, 2008, 12:27:14 AM

This would have been far easier to diagnose without swapping in a 5 speed manual transmission.....There could be transmission issues in addition to your pre-existing ones.

There's a lesson in this.

Check your plugs, wires, timimg, fuel pressure, IAC, TPS and anything else that is suspect to include the mounts. Run codes.
If you had this issue when you got the car all of the above mentioned items should have been checked over....Were they?
If not, get to it then.

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Reply #9 – February 07, 2008, 01:00:13 AM

Yeah, just be careful. It'd suck to do the "quick save" for a new motor to still have a problem that now you REALLY can't afford to fix!

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Reply #10 – February 07, 2008, 10:44:14 AM

A manual transmission will transmit engine roughness through the drive train more noticeably than a automatic(a O/D auto can come close in lockup though) You should have trouble shot the engine problem prior to the swap, but in reality probably won't chance the outcome... Just thinking it would suck to have a burned valve or other serious engine problem, after going through all the work to swap trannys...

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Reply #11 – February 07, 2008, 11:04:25 AM

Just feel like mentioning when I once did a compression test I think, on the front most cylinder drivers side, I didn't put the wire back on.

At idle I noticed virtually no difference. Once in 3rd gear it was a little shaky at the lower rpms but ~2000 or higher it was fine. Into OD, try and move anywhere at that thing bucked so bad I thought the car was gonna shake itself the hell apart.

That was awful, I had no idea what it was. I dealt with that for two weeks, driving everywhere sans OD. Then I saw the wire. What a humbling feeling....

Hoep ya find whatever it is!

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Reply #12 – February 07, 2008, 11:08:26 AM

thats almost what its like zonda.

im gonna do a comp. test tonight and clean the plugs and check the resistance in the wires.

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Reply #13 – February 07, 2008, 10:28:25 PM

the egr was stuck open. bam with the block off plate.

i nudged the timing, adjusted the clutch AGAIN.

still shakes a little in 4th and 5th but i blame the motor mount.

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Reply #14 – February 07, 2008, 10:38:53 PM

Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;202823

the egr was stuck open. /QUOTE]
If you had pulled codes you would have found this out a long time ago.