Supercooling? Reply #15 – November 29, 2007, 03:26:49 PM Quote from: Thunder Chicken;190069Ford did it in a concept vehicle not too long ago.Quote from: dominator;190139Ford did do it on their concept lightning... Right and Right. Quote from: http://www.mustangheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=158Ford’s patented SuperCooler technology cleverly provides a special burst of power for the SVT Lightning concept. Traditional intercoolers dissipate heat from the supercharged air by circulating coolant through a front-mounted, air-cooled radiator. With the SuperCooler system, the vehicle’s air conditioning system is used to chill a small storage tank of coolant to about 30 degrees Fahrenheit. On demand, the SuperCooler system switches the intercooler flow from its normal circulation and dumps the chilled coolant into the engine’s intercooler. In turn, the intercooler dissipates up to 20 percent more heat from the charge air – resulting in a denser air charge. A green light on the instrument panel indicates the system’s readiness. SuperCooler is activated automatically when the driver depresses the accelerator to a wide-open-throttle position. As a result of this cool technology, the SVT Lighting concept can give its driver as much as 50 transient horsepower for short bursts of 30-45 seconds and regenerate within 2 minutes under normal driving conditions. While its effect is similar to that of an aftermarket nitrous oxide system, the SuperCooler is completely self-contained, environmentally friendly and regenerative. Quote Selected
Supercooling? Reply #16 – November 29, 2007, 04:28:00 PM sounds like its all more trouble then its worth Quote Selected
Supercooling? Reply #17 – November 29, 2007, 04:41:16 PM Free horsepower at the expense of probably less than 20-30 pounds ain't so bad...I bet in a few years variations of that will be common on higher-end sport(s) cars. Quote Selected
neither am I Reply #18 – November 30, 2007, 01:45:02 AM Quote from: dominator;190139A: He's not talking about injecting freon(duh)he's talking about injecting the cooled A/C air wich can get down to almost zero degrees in today's systems.B: Ford did do it on their concept lightning and claimed a 50hp increase when the button washiznit(almost like a shot of nos)and it onlt took a few minutes to fill the cooling tank again not a half an hour.Where do you get your info from man?????????One reason the big mfgrs haven't implemented any kind of super cooling until recently is because of the possiblilty of imperfect sealing in the intercooling system leaking freon into the intake tract. new charging systems are more friendly to the environment if sent through the combustion chamber.If you will read what I posted, I wasn't addressing what Ford did with the Lightning, I was talking about using the equipment that came standard on our cars.The only way you're going to get an HP boost with an A/C shot is to bump the boost, using the cooling to offset heating created by new boost. *For our cars* that means some kind of variable boost control, at the minimum, to take advantage of such a system.I'm sorry if you don't like the info I'm posting, but I stand by what I wrote. Quote Selected
Supercooling? Reply #19 – December 01, 2007, 11:35:07 PM why would one think of injecting freon into the intake!? it turns back to liquid when not compressed anyway. My idea was to chill the line coming from the outlet of the FMIC to the intake with cold air from either the factory a/c or a 12v system like the link i posted. Not necessarily directly into the airstream either but maybe cool the metal pipe down and thus the air inside. Even if it does sound like a waste of time i an willing to try it. I'm sure people said the internal combustion engine was a waste of time to and...well there ya go. Quote Selected
Supercooling? Reply #20 – December 01, 2007, 11:59:26 PM Quote from: lakenheath24;190709it turns back to liquid when not compressed anyway.Only if it is 25 below zero. PS Supercooling refers to cooling a liquid below its freezing point, without becoming a solid. Quote Selected