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Negative for Aerobird Motorsports

Reply #15
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;187566
Funny thing is...there's 4 Time Zones, lol
Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific ;)
Not that this has one helluva thing to do with the purpose of this thread but...

And I've had a good dealing with ABM, so...other than that, I'm staying neutral..sometimes  happens despite our best intentions, hopefully y'all can resolve this amicably.



4 time zones = 3 hours (1PM Eastern, 2PM Central, 3PM Mountain, 4PM Pacific, 4-1=3)

It's OK< I got East/West messed up already today :( :hick:

Thanks for the support though.

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Reply #16
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;187625
4 time zones = 3 hours (1PM Eastern, 2PM Central, 3PM Mountain, 4PM Pacific, 4-1=3)

It's OK< I got East/West messed up already today :( :hick:

Thanks for the support though.

Arghhh! Quite so...lemme tell ya..I gotta kickass cold..cold meds have got me loopy.. ughh :mad:

Hell, some days i think the sun sets in the north ;)
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'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

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Reply #17
Quote from: thunderjet302;187548
At least DHL doesn't crush the shipping boxes :hick:

 
I know me and Mike know ups does,We had a problem a way back,
and we worked it out between us.I also talked to crusher a couple a days ago about parts. I do believe he is sincere,
So I don't think name callin is the answer for this problem.
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

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Reply #18
Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;187625
4 time zones = 3 hours (1PM Eastern, 2PM Central, 3PM Mountain, 4PM Pacific, 4-1=3)

It's OK< I got East/West messed up already today :( :hick:

Thanks for the support though.




Make that twice now Michael.

1PM Eastern=12PM Central=11AM Mountain=10AM Pacific....

Or in your case..if it's 4PM IN WA...it's 7PM on the east coast....


Right now this is at name calling.  At this point both parties are unhappy.  Now no one owes anyone anything (money returned, etc) and aside from hurt feelings this deal is square in my eyes. 

Both sides stated their point and until either/both sides produce any "records" that they claim to have this is all just going to be a g match, and I'm not going to allow a g match.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #19
*Starts chant*
Records, Records, Records!!

Person 1: We want records..
Person 2: When do we want them?
Everybody: NOW!

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Reply #20
What do we want?
2005 Subaru WRX STi|daily driver

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Reply #21
Quote from: Ether947;187673
What do we want?

RECORDS!!!

Quote from: JeremyB;187560
Show your records! I want to see some pwnage, one way or the other.
:evilgrin:
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

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Reply #22
Note: Personal Information "xxxx" out by me, copy-and-pasted:

PayPal (email):

Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:23:19 -0700

Dear Aerobird Motorsports,

Xtreme Force just sent you money with PayPal.

Xtreme Force is a Verified buyer.

Payment Details
Amount:      $135.00 USD
Transaction ID:      3YM35987NP609631B
   
View the details of this transaction online at: https://www.paypal.com/us/vst/id=3YM35987NP609631B

Shipping Information
Address:      Xtreme Force
xx Cxxxx Road
Lxxxxxx Pxxx, NJ xxxxx
United States
Shipping Method:      
Address Status:      Not Confirmed [?]
      
Thank you for using PayPal!
The PayPal Team

PayPal Email ID PP274

PayPal (Account):

Transaction Details
      
Payment Received (ID #3YM35987NP609631B)

This transaction has been refunded
For further details please see transaction 2CS22785JN458293C
      
Original Transaction
 Date     Type     Status     Details     Gross     Fee     Net
 Oct. 19, 2007    Payment From Xtreme Force     Refunded     ...    $135.00 USD     -$4.22 USD     $130.78 USD

Related Transaction
 Date     Type     Status     Details     Gross     Fee     Net
 Nov. 13, 2007    Refund     Completed     Details    -$135.00 USD     $4.22 USD     -$130.78 USD
Total:    $0.00 USD     $0.00 USD     $0.00 USD

Business Name:    
   Xtreme Force   
Buyer Email:    
   crusher@xfdesigns.com
Payment Sent to:
     sales@aerobirdmotorsports.com

Business Contact Information
 Customer Service URL:       http://www.xfdesigns.com
Customer Service Email:       webmaster@xfdesigns.com

Total Amount:    
   $135.00 USD
Fee Amount:    
   -$4.22 USD
Net Amount:    
   $130.78 USD

Date:    
   Oct. 19, 2007
Time:    
   16:23:19 PDT
Status:    
   Refunded
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Attn. Sellers:    
   You must ship to the address shown below to be protected under PayPal's Seller Protection Policy (not available).

Shipping Address:    
   Xtreme Force
xx Cxxxx Road
Lxxxxxx Pxxx, NJ xxxxx
United States
Not Confirmed Help

Payment Type:    
   Instant



Transaction Details
      
Refund (ID #2CS22785JN458293C)
In reference to:3YM35987NP609631B

Original Transaction
 Date     Type     Status     Details     Gross     Fee     Net
 Oct. 19, 2007    Payment From Xtreme Force     Refunded     Details    $135.00 USD     -$4.22 USD     $130.78 USD

Related Transaction
 Date     Type     Status     Details     Gross     Fee     Net
 Nov. 13, 2007    Refund     Completed     ...    -$135.00 USD     $4.22 USD     -$130.78 USD

Business Name:    
   Xtreme Force   
Email:    
   crusher@xfdesigns.com

Business Contact Information
Customer Service URL:       http://www.xfdesigns.com
Customer Service Email:       webmaster@xfdesigns.com

Total Amount:    
   -$135.00 USD
Fee Amount:    
   $4.22 USD
Net Amount:    
   -$130.78 USD

Date:    
   Nov. 13, 2007
Time:    
   15:42:16 PST
Status:    
   Completed

Note:    
   Service REFUSED.

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10/27    05:50 PM    INCOMING     973-XXX-XXXX     NW         3

Since you didn't leave VM's, the ridiculous calls are just on my phone, showing the time/date of "missed calls".

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11-12-2007, 06:21 PM
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It has been over 2 weeks since u stated u shipped my order. I am very angry waiting with my door panels off. I wanna know if u really shipped it, if u did please give me a tracking number. If u didn't forget it and give me a refund, I am not here to wait and bs around.

Thank you,
~Crusher

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What the heck is up with you? It was Veteran's Day weekend! We, like 99% of business's, were CLOSED. I do NOT appreciate being called OUTSIDE of business hours or IM'd constantly. This is a business, not a 24-hour talk-my-ear-off line.

Yes, I read your message. I scheduled your box to ship out and DHL didn't show (thus leaving 7 orders here stuck for 3 days). If you want to sit here and play threats and bug me at home, I'll GLADLY give you a refund and tell everybody about how you act.

Look, I have rules on my site for a reason. I do NOT want to talk to customers outside of business hours, or deal with phones ringing all hours of the night. Send ONE e-mail, I will respond. Or call ONCE during business hours (Tues and Thurs) and I will pick up. Calling 3 times at 7AM does NOT fly.

Sorry for the rant man but you seriously pissed me off and now I sit down to reply to all the accumulated e-mails/PM's from the weekend and read your horse**** about "I warn u". That's not how you treat anybody, especially not a place of business.

So here's your options;
1 - Full refund and don't EVER call me again.
or
2 - Be a normal person, and DHL will pick it up today, and you'll have it by the weekend.

As for your "threat", I'd seriously take that back...


I only called u on that one day u picked up :S, never called on 7:00am or w/e and I called just before your site stated u were closing like 1 min before the final, so when u said I kept calling I never did I only called once. And U told me u shipped it that morning which was a saturday and u can't ship on a saturday. I'm not someone who wants to be screwed over again which I have by 4 people already on this site.

So U stated u shipped it but didn't, so U lied there. Thank u for proving that atleast.

A threat no it was a promise because a true business man wouldn't let a box for shipment wait 2 weeks without contacting the user. I waited 2 weeks being nice and u never sent it, how am I surpose to feel?

I am not the type to start promising people, but when I get lied to guess what that makes the spark go up.

I'm sorry if I came up with the promise right away but I waited 2 weeks and 2 days so far on this day since u said u shipped it. Now let me ask u something wouldn't u be pissed off if I said I sent u a part and didn't contact u with no tracking # or anything, and u waited two weeks what would u do? I bet during that 2 weeks u would of contacted the seller and asked wtf was going on. I waited for the package but guess what , I was waiting for nothing.


I need those parts, so ship them out tomorrow or today get me a tracking number and this matter is solved.

And this is going by your word:
Quote:
2 - Be a normal person, and DHL will pick it up today, and you'll have it by the weekend.
So enjoy,
~Crusher

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Somebody with your area code called me 17 times in the last 4 days. If that wasn't you, I'm sorry, but I've never sold to anybody in that area before. I'd sure like some proof that it WASN'T you!

1. Yes, you CAN ship on a Saturday, Through ANYBODY. The Post Office, FedEx, UPS, DHL, they're all open.

2. You did not say who you were or what order it was, and it was most certainly PAST closing time, by 3 hours. I had shipped 19 orders (all of them) the prior day so I assumed it was one of those guys (which it was).

3. You waited 2.5 weeks to actually PAY for your order, that doesn't tell me you're in hurry. I told you I had to pull all of the parts and then you wanted me to install the decals FOR you for nothing.

4. Obviously you are not mature enough to handle business transactions. Your refund has already been issued and parts listed for sale, again. Do not ever contact me again. I am reserving my right to refuse service to you.

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I will not fight back with you because you have choice to send a refund and solve the problem. Thank you for solving the problem and good luck.

^^^That one confuses me as 26 minutes later he posted the thread. I can't figure out what he wants, in between that and all the Mikey-like BS I reserved my right to refusal of service.

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Reply #23


did it have to come to this?

:hick:

lol
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Reply #24
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1. The old item WAS involved. You didn't decide that you didn't want it until the very email from PayPal for the payment 29 days later.


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2/3. We're only open until 4PM PACIFIC TIME on Saturday. So if you called at 8PM EASTERN it would be 11PM out here. Starting to get it now?


Thats 5:00pm and I must of read it wrong could share to god it said 5 but I won't fight u there.

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4. I NEVER ship UPS. I said USPS, as in the Post Office. Except YOUR PayPal does NOT have a "Confirmed Address" nor a "Contact Name" so USPS refused it on the following Monday and gave it back to me. That's why it had to get re-boxed (from a Priority Mail box to a plain one) and shipped DHL (who came yesterday and I gave them every box but yours).


I have a Confirmed Address, and people ship me items under the Xtreme Force Name all the time.

Only reason the name is that because thats a business paypal for my business which is shared by others.

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5. E-mails, PM's, IM's, Phone Calls, you used all four. I had to deny a half-dozen requests from your IM, most in the middle of the night. Finally I got you blocked as I don't IM with anybody that's not family, period.


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In case you haven't gotten it yet, the answer to your question is #4. YOUR PAYPAL DID NOT INCLUDE A REAL NAME. USPS DOES NOT SHIP TO NON-BUSINESS'S WITHOUT A NAME. THE BOX WAS REFUSED AND I HAD TO REPACK IT AND SHIP IT DHL. YOU messed up on your PayPal, which led to an extra week and a half of BS for ME re-boxing and generating a DHL invoice AFTER I had already done everything USPS.


People shipped me with fedex and UPS with the Xtreme Force Name, ask all my sellers that I bought from.

Another thing is why didn't you even pm me or message me stating, your package was refused or anything?  You didn't talk to me in 2.3 weeks till I said something tired of waiting.  You are wrong there.

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You need to take back all of your "lieing" comments (it's spelled lying BTW). YOU messed up, I tried to get it to you another method, and then you threatened me. Sorry bub, but you broke WAY to many business-customer relations rules and that was the FINAL straw. You're faaaarrrr too much like a certain banned member here with all of the "hold it until the week after" BS and the CONSTANT invasions of PRIVACY.


Make fun of my spelling, its PC Text I don't care what people think about it.


Only reason I got your msn was because I was interested in helping u with your website, but then I notice you were a business :S,  I don't help out people who r trying to make cash with my web skills.  I help out free sites, but when I found out u were a business I came to you for parts.


And If I'm like the member well I atleast give the money when promised.  I work with mostly free jobs so I'm not rich and this car isn't my life, its my baby.  I help out people so I live on a week to base check and I know what has to be paid and I know when I can pay for something.  Instead of the part getting sold and me not having a chance to buy it I request and ask if you can hold it.  If the Seller is nice and not in a rush or in a bug for money they will hold it for 1 - 2 weeks Top and then get there payment.  And for waiting that shows that they have respect for the buyer. 


U still haven answered my true question of why u lied, u just gave me bs about it being refused...  Why didn't u ever message me about anything?  Also, go ask people who I bought parts from UPS took the Xtreme Force Name.....

I don't have time to keep entering this stupid chat, To me you are a bad business guy.  You know your stuff and you can hook up people but you are slow in action.. Learn when u said out a package or after getting a payment to keep in touch of whats going on with the parts.
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Reply #25
Payment was received on 10/19?  And then refunded 11/13?

Then Veterans Day weekend is when all the calls/etc happened?

To me, it looks like the item was paid for and not shipped.

What is the explanation?

EDIT.  I see.  The package was returned to Michael by USPS.

From an outsider perspective this is still just as muddy as it was.

Crusher, use a real mailing name next time.  Michael, it might be a good idea to let folks know if an item gets returned.

It's all hearsay now about who called or "harassed" who and you both flew off the handle. 

The money has been refunded and this matter to me is closed.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #26
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AT&T Wireless

10/27 05:50 PM INCOMING 973-248-5565 NW 3

Since you didn't leave VM's, the ridiculous calls are just on my phone, showing the time/date of "missed calls".


I don't have AT&T  So Im guessing u did, how can u state that the miss calls were from me :S if they show no number.  My Caller ID shows missed calls or private.  Would u like a copy of my phone bill with all my numbers to prove I am not stupid to call someone at those times. ?  Would be glad to show u I'm right would even bet u cash.
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Reply #27
Also phone call was on:

10/27 05:50 PM INCOMING 973-248-5565 NW 3

and he told me on the phone that it was shipped that morning Chuck.  I waited till Nov. 13 for my package.  I also waited 1 week and 1 day to call him hoping I didn't get screwed again.
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Reply #28
Quote from: Crusher;187697
Also phone call was on:

10/27 05:50 PM INCOMING 973-248-5565 NW 3

and he told me on the phone that it was shipped that morning Chuck.  I waited till Nov. 13 for my package.  I also waited 1 week and 1 day to call him hoping I didn't get screwed again.


As stated, the package was returned to him....it could have been floating around for over a week as it made its way to you and then back.  Not his control, but he should have emailed when it came back.

He didn't run off and hide and refunded your money.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

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Reply #29
also he claims he waited 29 days for payment..

Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports;187463
Facts:

1 - Waits nearly a month to pay for orders, then does so with an unconfirmed PayPal mailing address (rendering the Seller's Protection Policy void) and no name, just "Crusher" (rendering shipping USPS void as you have to have a contact name).


This quote is from:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=16880


Original Item PM:

10-12-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports
Quote from: Crusher
Aerobird I will take the Power antenna - $15 , I will send payment next saturday then you can ship whenever you like.  I'm gotta get it so I have a spare incase mine goes bye bye.  So Please Hold.


Where are you located? Prices do not include shipping as stated in the ad. However if you're in the US, the antenna fits in a $9 USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate box. As soon as $24 payment arrives I will ship it, but I will hold it for you for now.


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PayPal (email):

Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:23:19 -0700

Dear Aerobird Motorsports,

Xtreme Force just sent you money with PayPal.

Xtreme Force is a Verified buyer.



I sent it to him on the 19th  which was 1 day before next saturday it was 19th the night.  So when he stated I was over a month in payment u are wrong I was 1 - 2 weeks Like I stated.  So when u call me a Lier, Guess what IM NOT AND THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL.  I thought u were cool but now I have second thoughts sorry to say.






Also, isn't it against rules to put my phone number?  I would be glad to give people my phone number but someone esle doing it openly on a forum thats not cool..
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