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popping and squeek "SOLVED"

(update 17jan08,see post 53, page 5 for a surprise twist to what solved this problem.  If your interested in changing your control arm bushings, keep reading)



Verdict is in on my new 20th.

squeek-Symptom.....
While my son pushed up and down, i felt for the squeek and isolated it to dead center of the ball joint driver side.
Solution,
buy both new and replace.

Poping noise
Symptom....
While applying brake presure and car dips up front, poping noise heard.  While going up hill on a gravel driveway Rattle noise heard like the noise a golf ball in a wood box would produce if you shake it.
Put car in "D" , let off brake and reapply brake - POP
Put car in "R" , let off brake and reapply brake - POP
Solution,
Have an experienced eye listen while doing the above two steps.  Mr experienced eye will notice the lower control arm shifting forward and aft as "D" and "R" are selected.
buy new control arm bushings and replace,,,,, OH GOODY:mad:

See my "WTB" thread

popping and squeek "SOLVED"

Reply #1 –
told ya!
1979 Ford Fairmont
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5.0L/4R70W/8.8"/5-lug/3" Exhuast

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Reply #2 –
your the reason why i looked,, thanks:D

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Reply #3 –
my car just started to squeak pretty badly on the passenger front wheel but it doesnt pop like you described.
 should i plan for new balljoints or see if its something else? i usually fix stuff after they break but this isnt one of those kinda parts i want to wait for and i never had something that needed them before

sorry to jack thread but i figured i would ask since your on the subject
"Beating the hell out of other peoples cars since 1999"
1983 Ford Thunderbird Heritage
1984 Ford Mustang GT Turbo Convertible
2015 Ford Focus SE 1.0 EcoBoost

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Reply #4 –
just troubleshoot it, like described. you will feel the vibration of the squeek with your fingers increase as you get closer and closer to the sound.  Gotta have a helper push up and down on the car (preferably on the front corners).

change em like my pics are in the lounge '"ball joints" thread.

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Reply #5 –
ok
im having technical problems with my A frame bushings / Control arm bushings.

Napa calls two different ones for each arm
pn 2673351 and 2673512


I just got back from town and advance says "the computer" says there is only ONE bushing part number and also that the computer calls for an upper control arm as well.
To make matters worse, they went to the TRW book and concluded my car was too old as thier TRW book only goes back to 92.

I leave,, now kind of wondering to myself,, did napa really know what they were talking about?,, they sure did come closer than advance though.  I went back to advance and told them ,,"look, this car is just like a tbird, look up the bushing for a tbird / 87 and lets see whatcha got".  No go.  I then said,, "you know much about mustangs,, and he said "yep".  I said this car is just like a stang setup from those years so lets see whatcha got.

suddenly there were part numbers.  TWO DIFFERERENT ONES like i expected.

Under the Chassis catagory on front suspenion we found.........
Each A arm calls out..........
12356-front lower A arm bushing
12408-rear lower A arm bushing

Are the stang bushings the same???????????????

I dont want to tear down the front end and not have the correct parts in hand.

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: jcassity;181232
Napa calls two different ones for each arm
pn 2673351 and 2673512

Those are the correct part numbers

'87-'88 T-bird LCA bushings are not interchangeable with any Mustang bushing.

'83'-86 T-bird LCA bushings are.

If I were you, I'd just buy a set (or two) of Moog bushings from Rockauto.
A set from NAPA is $47.38.
A set from Rockauto is $24.99.

You are not giving up anything by choosing Moog over NAPA. Moog is a high quality brand.

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: JeremyB;181416
Those are the correct part numbers

'87-'88 T-bird LCA bushings are not interchangeable with any Mustang bushing.

'83'-86 T-bird LCA bushings are.

If I were you, I'd just buy a set (or two) of Moog bushings from Rockauto.
A set from NAPA is $47.38.
A set from Rockauto is $24.99.

You are not giving up anything by choosing Moog over NAPA. Moog is a high quality brand.


are they rubber?  i dont want poly.

BTW,, would you believe there isnt one single post on this whole forum about replacement of stock rubber bushings?  Only my threads show up with many different search words used. 

I thought for sure with all the suspension guru's here, someone would have put in some rubber ones.  I guess not.  I still have to make my spring compressor tool out of 5/8 grade 8 threaded rod and some hooky looking brackets.

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Reply #8 –
Yes, they're rubber.


I'd like to see a write-up on your installation. I'll probably be doing the same to my Cougar in the not-to-distant future.

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Reply #9 –
Ill prob take pics to.  Its likely ill run into the same problem others have with the "shell".  We'll see.

Project planned in hopefully a week.  Ill be in canada all next week so if not, then the following week.

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Reply #10 –
Jacassity: Question for you. This popping noise you hear. Can you "feel" it on the floor through your feet when sitting in the car?
Raleigh, NC.

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Reply #11 –
it happens just as i described,, to get a final opinion its a two person job to "see" the A arm move.

Im in the process of putting my door panel back on but im going to start my spring compressor tool tonight as well.

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Reply #12 –
Well, you're going to see some movement in the A arm due to the rubber bushings. That's by design. It certainly will not hurt to replace them as it will improve the driveability.
Raleigh, NC.

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Reply #13 –
Quote from: 04FordHarleyF250;181720
Well, you're going to see some movement in the A arm due to the rubber bushings. That's by design. It certainly will not hurt to replace them as it will improve the driveability.


your suggesting or leading to something,, correct?  im trying to read between the lines here.  Whatcha got ???

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Reply #14 –
Well, I had that same noise as you describe but I could feel it through my feet in the floor board. Depending how bad your bushings are, replacing them may do the trick. One thing you may want to check is the six bolts that hold the K member in. I had one that wasn't completely tight and that was the source of the problem. I needed an air rachet to do the job. This is something you can check first before changing the A arm bushings. Again, this is just a thought. Let us know what you find.
Raleigh, NC.