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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #45
Quote from: DMC24guy;173823
I only have one question before I put everything back together:
 
There are two Wires ringed onto the Starter Solenoid stud where the Main Alternator Output wire would sit. Do I need to upgrade these wires or can they handle the power? Mind you, my Amp gauge has never, and will never work.

See this:
Quote from: jcassity;116664
cant remember the source of this drawing but it came from here a couple years ago.


3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #46
im also curious as to what diagram or resource you had to initiate the 3g upgrade?  I know its all after the fact but i honestly dont feel post number 2 helped you in any way.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #47
I used the instructions over at Nato.

As for it only being a "flesh wound"....um...no. The car burned. Most of it anyway. It wasn't just a "couple of components".
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #48
Well, does your install look like the picture above? This is what I have in my car, as do many other members I'm sure. If not you could have had a wire wrong, a short or anything to cause a problem. You had aproxx 10,800 watts of energy seeking a ground just about the time you took a nap. And suddnely it found a ground, more then likely causting the fire.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #49
Yes. I double-checked before I turned everything on. The "I","A", and "S" were all in the correct positions. I used 10 gauge wire for the Output. I used the Volt meter to check the readings of all Three wires before proceeding. I followed the NATO steps (sans the part for the AMP gauge) word for word.
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #50
two things
please post pics of the crispy critter
and
please post link of the nato reference. 

I know this is not good timing but your efforts in assisting us will be helpful to those in the future.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #51
12 GAUGE FOR THE OUTPUT,THERE'S YOUR FIRE!!!!!!!!!
I run TWO count em Two 4 GAUGE jumper cable wires off of my old 3g now 6g 130amp alt.
One to the solenoid and the other to the cars systems
(yellow splice wire).
Have had no problems in 3 years,the cables don't even get warm, ice cold under all conditions under full load.
As for the pic that fila posted,that optional wire had better be in addition to the 4gauge battery wire off of the output.
It is a MUST to upgrade those fire causing factory strands of wire off of the original alt,hell ford had a problem with them lighting up with the stock 75amp let alone a 130amp.
130amps through 12gauge wire, your nuts!!!
And this is why some people should either do research or let qualified people work on their rides!!
You'd still have a TC if you had of!!!!

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #52
this is true. the stock wires were not even adequate for the stock alternator. i burned up two pigtails with a reman from vato zone.
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #53
I have a 4 guage to the bettery and an 4 guage to the soloniod
 
Dominater just about said it. The fire was due to lack of research and not following directions as posted.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #54
12ga wire from the alt to the solenoid and to power the systems?

The old stock wire is #8 or #6 or something like that.

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I followed the NATO steps (sans the part for the AMP gauge) word for word.
Obviously not....I know Jeff's write up does not say to use 12ga wires for the output...
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #55
factory is 10ga
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #56
The electrical load determines how much current is drawn. If the electrical load of the car is 60 amps it doesn't matter what size the alternator is as long as it is over 60 amps. It is still going to draw just 60 amps.

3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #57
That doesnt matter... it was still 12ga wire... heh.
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #58
I'm sorry, I meant 10 gauge wires. I used two 10 gauge wires and on either end, I soldered two Metal rings. I did follow those steps word for word.
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3G Installation Failure: The Death of a Turbo Coupe

Reply #59
Still, thats small for the aplication