The next project... kinda car related... Reply #15 – June 26, 2007, 09:11:14 PM It's a Wal-Mart one - I know in the USA it's branded as "Weather Channel" but here in Canada it's branded as something else that I can't remember and can't be bothered going downstairs to check out :hick:I made a mistake calling that thing on the wall a rainfall sensor - it's actually the temp/humidity sensor. The rainfall sensor is mounted beside the garage near the red door - you can see it in the photo above - it's the grey thing atop the black tarp just left of the door (the wire running along the top of the door in the top pic goes to it). The weather station tells inside/outside temp, wind speed and direction (the thing at the peak of the roof is the anemometer), wind chill, rainfall amount, barometric pressure, and humidity. It also makes a very weak attempt at forecasting weather. It's kinda neat (was a Christmas gift) but I had to take it back twice to get one that the wind functions actually worked... Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #16 – June 26, 2007, 11:52:33 PM I would have to say it's pretty good looking! Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #17 – June 27, 2007, 01:13:27 AM What are you attaching the sideing with. Screws? Nails? size and style? Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #18 – June 27, 2007, 09:40:57 AM 1-1/2" siding nails. They look like roofing nails buy they're made out of aluminum Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #19 – June 27, 2007, 01:50:06 PM I bet the neighbors love having you there now. No more unfinished buildings and rogue lawn mowers clutering up the place. Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #20 – June 27, 2007, 01:58:59 PM My dad does siding for a living; he's been a siding contractor for 30 years. I worked with him every summer for 12 years and my brother has been working with him since 1990. Some tips:- Don't drive the siding nails in all the way...leave about 1/4" of the nail loose. Vinyl siding needs to be able to flex and expand with heat.- Leave 1/2" between the end of the panel and the corner post (inside or outside), again to allow for expansion.- When cutting siding with a circular saw, put the blade in backwards. Much easier to cut that way, and the chips fly away from you.Otherwise, if you can read a level and actually remember to use it (LOL), hanging siding is pretty logical and fairly easy.Carm, so far so good...looking nice! Gable ends do suck, especially if you're cutting the siding by hand with snips. Anxious to see what you're going to do on that addition, around the doorway. Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #21 – June 27, 2007, 02:20:44 PM Quote from: EricCoolCats;157167 Anxious to see what you're going to do on that addition, around the doorway. Muppet fur..... Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #22 – June 27, 2007, 04:21:39 PM Quote from: FLSTCI71I bet the neighbors love having you there now. No more unfinished buildings and rogue lawn mowers clutering up the place.That would make me the only neighbour in that situation. Out here in the boonies you're required by law to have old equipment and car parts scattered around, and siding on outbuildings seems to be actively discouraged. I'm not totally different, though - note the T-Bird door and old engineless tractor sitting beside the garage :hick:Quote from: EricCoolCats;157167My dad does siding for a living; he's been a siding contractor for 30 years. I worked with him every summer for 12 years and my brother has been working with him since 1990. Some tips:- Don't drive the siding nails in all the way...leave about 1/4" of the nail loose. Vinyl siding needs to be able to flex and expand with heat.- Leave 1/2" between the end of the panel and the corner post (inside or outside), again to allow for expansion.- When cutting siding with a circular saw, put the blade in backwards. Much easier to cut that way, and the chips fly away from you.Otherwise, if you can read a level and actually remember to use it (LOL), hanging siding is pretty logical and fairly easy.Carm, so far so good...looking nice! Gable ends do suck, especially if you're cutting the siding by hand with snips. Anxious to see what you're going to do on that addition, around the doorway. A level only works on a level building :hick:. I actually mounted the starter strip on the first side of the building using a level, then had to pull it all off when I stood back and saw the starter strip climbing the building so much that it was about 6" higher at the back end than it was at the front. I ended up using a measuring tape and measuring from the eves down and making it the same measurement the whole length of the building. Ain't level, but it's somewhat square with the walls and windows...I had to do the same thing with the gable end with the big door to make sure that when I reached the top of the door the siding would be at the same level at both ends. I measured down the same distance from each top corner of the door and started from there. These were hard earned lessons from my "practice building" - I sided the cottage two years ago. It was the first (and until this garage, only) building I had ever sided, and believe me, it was a LOT of trial and error and learning from mistakes. For example, I figured out how to properly do the corners on the J-channel around the windows and doors on this building......And yes, I'm cutting it all with tin snips. I have about four hundred small cuts on my right hand as a souvenir I loaned my circular saw to my father and haven't gotten it back yet. I used the saw with the backward blade idea on the cottage.A siding contractor actually gave me the same advice you did about leaving the nails loose and leaving 1/2 inch in the length to allow for expansion. Another few tips: A small piece of s siding is great for marking your cuts around windows - simply snap it in place as if it were a full piece and mark where your cut will have to be, then place the s on the "good" piece of siding and transfer your mark over. It's much easier than trying to hold up a 12' length and eliminates guesswork and errors.Also, start at the end of the building farthest from the driveway. This will reduce the visibility of seams and overlaps from the road.Quote from: Chuck W;157171Muppet fur.....LOL - now if only I could find me a muppet to shave... Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #23 – June 28, 2007, 10:11:16 AM Great advice both of you, Thanks. Another question: look at your pic with the lawn tractor, right above the hood of the tractor there is a window and a corner of the building. The window get's a J-Channel and the corner has a corner trim (dunno what it's called). My Question: Should/Can both of these trims be in place before the actual siding is cut and installed?What about the trim for the Whole building? My plan has been to go trim out all corners (inside and outside) around the windows, Starter Strip, etc before going back and cutting the siding. Is this a bad Idea? Would have been nice to have a "test project", my TEST is my home :hick: Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #24 – June 28, 2007, 10:24:42 AM The corners, starter strip and J-channel should go up before the siding. They actually have channels in them for the siding to go into. I don't know if it's better to trim the whole building first, then put the siding up or just do a wall at a time. I did wall-at-a-time because I was impatient to see the building looking better :hick: The important thing, and I'm sure Eric will agree, is to make sure the first row of siding is straight (whether it be level with the ground or straight with the building). Every other piece of siding on the wall depends on that first piece. Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #25 – June 28, 2007, 10:54:33 AM Yep, you got it, Jim...if you can reach everything relatively easily (in other words it's not a 2-story building) then tpuppies everything out first will greatly speed up the time it takes to install the siding. Sometimes it's impractical to do that, but in most cases it's much better that way.And yeah, Carm is right on. The first row being straight is the key. That's not terribly difficult if the siding is going to be all on the same level around the building. But if you have to step it down or up at some point, then it can get tricky. My dad sometimes uses a water level to figure things out. Plus, even though the siding panel is so many inches high, it's the installed size that you have to figure from. An 8" high piece of siding will usually finish somewhere around 7-1/4" to 7-1/2". It's because one row hooks onto the one below it. You have to allow for that vertical lapping when figuring the dimensions.Oh, and you should also have corners that line up with each other. To me that was the toughest thing to do, because you can easily pull up too hard on a locked panel, nail it...and then it throws everything else off above it. Frustrating sometimes.But don't let this scare ya. If you have any inclinations toward construction then you'll figure it out just fine. Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #26 – June 28, 2007, 05:30:49 PM I feel like I'm jacking Thunders tread, Well cancel out the "reach everything easily" as yes it's two story.And as for "any inclinations tword construction" let's hope so... from fraiming on I doing it myself. theres a pic here. Done lot's of this before but never this type of sideing. My father used to work for a Lumber supply company and was a remodeling fool (discount prices) Getting it straight is going to be easy. The house (new construction) was frammed by my 30(something?) year old nephew that has his own biz... he did a real good job, straight as an arrow and level as a lake. I'll just run my starter row at the bottom and be fine. Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #27 – June 30, 2007, 08:08:25 PM One more tip, Jim: When you're cutting siding with a pair of snips it can be as sharp as razor blades. You don't really need to know how I know that I got some more done today.Those two walls I finished don't look like much, but I had to replace the bottom four feet of sheathing on both walls, and on the one with the small window in it I also had to replace the bottom half of all the studs, plus the footer (or whatever that piece of wood at the bottom of the wall studs is called). The addition was studded off with simple 2X4's and they all rotted. I put pressure treated boards in place of the rotten ones, so it shouldn't rot again. Now I've just got to do the end facing away from the house. This should prove to be interesting because I'm going to make two casp00get-style windows before siding it. The one thing that has always bothered me about this garage is that none of the windows open except that little bitty one on the addition. This means that I have to open the doors when it's hot inside or whenever I want to ventilate while spraying or sanding something - this results in horse flies, mosquitos, and black flies coming in to feast (and land in fresh paint). My solution will be to make two windows to replace two of the existing ones. The new windows will be on hinges so I can swing them inward, and will be sized so that I can fit a box fan inside each one - one to draw air in, one to draw it out. Air circulation and mosquitos should no longer be a problem. I will be making the windows from scratch including cutting the glass), and will of course be taking pics :hick:I was actually surprised when doing the wall on the addition with the door in it - I thought it would be crooked as hell. As it turned out the corner and door are both plumb - the wall the addition is attached to is about 1.5" out of plumb over 8 feet, hence the very uneven gap between the door and wall. It was interesting cutting siding to fit that gap - I had to add 1/4" for every piece starting from the bottom. Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #28 – June 30, 2007, 11:21:31 PM that turned out really nice Carm. Mr. Fix It. You have plans to nicen up the inside now? Quote Selected
The next project... kinda car related... Reply #29 – July 01, 2007, 12:51:11 AM That did turn out nice. Looks really professional. Good Job Quote Selected
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