Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #30 – June 30, 2007, 10:11:23 AM Well if anyone has any idea left let me know Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #31 – June 30, 2007, 01:33:37 PM guys, i just talked with fila,, he had a decent phone so i could hear the cranking issue he describes.when no gas applied, it sounds great.with gas applied car sounds exactly like its timing related. its cranking like its on the verge of backfire but recovers ,, then does this repeatedly.The battery cables and the heat he described was misleading. The amount of time he cranked the car cause the cables to get warm and that IMHO is normal.His no gas applied sound is likerrrawawawawawawawawawaHis gas applied sound is likerrrwawaw ,rrrwawaw,,rrrwawaw (while its doing this type of cranking, the battery and starter all sound really normal and strong with a noticeable delay in between irratic cycles)My first thoughts whille hearing this was he best do a compression test cause that sounds like backpresure going down into the crankcase or up in the intake.so,,,,,,, i have him check for vapor in intake looking in the carb. No vaporso,,,,,, i have him check spark and he says its blueish silverso,,, i also mention to him he might want to check the gear on the dizzy, he may not have the right center shaft on his dizzy and the gear possbily jumped on him.so,, i have him check his timing chain slack using the harmonic and pointer as our ref. we find about [COLOR="Red"]23deg slack[/COLOR]. He may have a very sloppy chain.On his DS2 600cfm carb setup, he has spark, fuel and air. He claims his plugs were showing signs of running rich which leads me to believe he best check compression for cracked compression rings.ive also told him to get compression numbers as well as do a leak down test on each cylinder to include valve seating. after hearing the car crank, im thinking its internal engine parts related. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #32 – June 30, 2007, 01:35:08 PM What ever it is, It's now what kinda chain to get and should I do a cam while I'm already ass deep into the motor. Hell I might put the MSD on the car for when it's done. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #33 – June 30, 2007, 06:34:05 PM I went to put my windows back up as it cooled off. I got curious and turned the key forward and to my supprise, the little bitch started right up. No fussing, no fighting. 2-5 turns of the starter and she is purring like a kitten. Checked the timing and it's at 11*. WTF? Did I miss something here. This stupid fighting with it for 4 days and it just starts up? I didn't mess with anything at all. And from scotts info I did the test wrong. It was 9* not 23*. I duno whats going on but reguardless now it's getting a new timing chain. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #34 – June 30, 2007, 06:53:26 PM Double roller chain my friend. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #35 – June 30, 2007, 07:01:26 PM Soon to be. It starts again and it's not like I drive it or anything. I just hate when the car throws a shiznit fit out of no where then suddely fix's itself out of no where Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #36 – June 30, 2007, 07:10:36 PM slack can also be caused by the dizzy gear or cam gear wearing. its not necessarily the chain.basically, you need to have someome look at the car that knows wtf they are doing. listening over the phone, and diagnosing YOUR views seem to be out of the ballpark. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #37 – June 30, 2007, 07:20:40 PM Thats another thing me and scott thought was the dizzy gear. Since the legnth difference of the old TFI/EFI dizzy was about 1/16" different the the duraspark dizzy, that could cause it. Eventualy it will have a MSD pro billet dizzy in it but untill then I'll just replace as I find out whats wrong. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #38 – June 30, 2007, 08:54:22 PM At this point in time I am at a loss for words. I had a freind come over to look at the car, and it would nto restart. After JUST Looking around and not touching anything he tells me to turn it over and it starts. I turn itoff to see if it was a fluke and it doesn't start again. He gave up and I spent the last hour looking for a logical reason.. I just can't find one. It either runs or not Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #39 – June 30, 2007, 09:21:00 PM so all you did with it to get where you are is put a different coil on it? Is it a high performance coil? Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #40 – June 30, 2007, 09:33:58 PM MSD blaster 2. And it ran with it. It was just all of a suddon Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #41 – June 30, 2007, 09:39:10 PM do you have a voltage reducer wired in before the coil? When I changed mine to a ACCEL I had a similar problem and put a reducer in and that fixed the problem. If you don't you might give it a shot, they are pretty cheap and you can get them at any parts store. Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #42 – June 30, 2007, 09:45:40 PM I'll give it a try Quote Selected
Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up? Reply #43 – June 30, 2007, 10:01:23 PM Quote from: 84 Fila;157823I'll give it a tryHere is what mine looks like. Hope it helps.:birdsmily: Quote Selected
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