Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

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Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

June 23, 2007, 01:25:57 AM

Well, I would have rememberd to do this earlier but the TC kinda ate up my life. The other day I went to start my car and move it so the Vic can be up more in the driveway, but it turned over weird. It would crank slow then when I hit the pedel for more gas into the carb, the starter " stumbled" and never started. After I assume the gas burned up, the went back to turning over slow. I took it as the battery was dead and went to remove the batt cables and they were HOT:flame: . I duno what this is, and rather to mess with it I'm asking for help first. All I did that day was switch the coil and it ran fine in the morning. I went to move my car later in the day and here we are now. I didn't check to see if I had spark as it ran fine 3 hours before this. No rush but curious to WTF happened. Should I drop $140-ish on a new starter got have what I got rebuilt? I will say this is a JY explorer 5.0 starter if that playin into this

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #1 – June 23, 2007, 02:22:35 AM

make sure all the grounds are nice and clean first. unbolt the starter and clean the mating surface.

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #2 – June 23, 2007, 02:29:54 AM

A project for tomorow... after SUPER NATS!!!

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #3 – June 23, 2007, 10:54:51 AM

definitely a resistance problem.

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #4 – June 23, 2007, 12:29:02 PM

So rebuild the starter, buy a new mini for about $140 or go back to stock style starter for about $45

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #5 – June 23, 2007, 02:46:52 PM

clean all connections and check em!

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #6 – June 24, 2007, 12:01:11 AM

Tomorow. I just got home from super nats. I'l get pics, have napa test it and report back

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #7 – June 24, 2007, 07:33:23 AM

Don't forget you can take it to Berger Electric, too. He's very reasonably priced.

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #8 – June 24, 2007, 10:30:43 AM

I'll give him a call tomorow. I don't think he's open on sunday.

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #9 – June 24, 2007, 11:25:02 AM

take that starter solenoid apart,, there is a spring in there and contacts. clean them up ,, see if its just binding.

your battery cables getting warm and the starter cable getting hot tells me the solenoid is partially enguaged. the starter should be a little warm as well, something is drawing the load with the car just sitting there.

this is somethign you can do today just to see if it changes something. Lubricate the moving parts from the solenoid. Clean up the contacts in the solenoid and put some no-ox on them.

did you try tapping on the starter with the battery cables in a "hot condition" and see if the cables finally cool down. If they do, then your problem is a moving part on the starter.

if you decide you need to also lube the fork / lever in the starter that actuates the bendix, just make sure your brushes get replaced as well.
harbor freight and some other hardware stores sell brush kits for various motors ect.

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #10 – June 24, 2007, 11:39:10 AM

Scott.... great info but I'll let a pro do it. And the battery cables were only hot after I turned it over for about 15 sec's to try to start it. If it's just sitting it's fine

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #11 – June 24, 2007, 10:06:02 PM

Quote from: 84 Fila;156576

but I'll let a pro do it.

just remember one thing,, they'rre all either close to dead or already gone. Not too many folks out there left that are "pro's". I got my small list of who i call pro's. Use to be there were many around, not anymore.

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #12 – June 28, 2007, 03:53:37 PM

Well, it's not the starter. It's messed up, because it has spark, fuel, and I just set the timing last week at 10*. Brian told me it could be the timing chain, but before I trear into the car, I want to have a better understanding of what else it could be. ANY sugestions here would be nice. So far I have checked the plugs, rotor, dizzy cap, starter and duraspark box and all seem to be good

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #13 – June 28, 2007, 04:21:04 PM

Bring #1 piston to top dead center,your timing mark on the crank should be 0,take dist.cap off rotor should be pointing at #1.
If it is it's not the chain.sounds like electricle to me"start system"

Fila fails to start.. Timing chain #Edited#... it started right up?

Reply #14 – June 28, 2007, 04:23:01 PM

I didn't touch a thing from last time I started it. Just went to turn it over and then nothin. I'll check TDC and re-check plugs now. Any more ideares?