Women Shouldent own Turbo Coupes?

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Women Shouldent own Turbo Coupes?

June 22, 2007, 11:49:44 AM

Ok I should be working on my house right now, But I can’t resist stirring the “kettle of enlightenment” on this subject.

In this thread
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=14494
I mentioned purchasing a TC for a daughter
“From a generic car buyer (not a bird enthusiast) like looking for a car for my teenage daughter.....”
and got this comment…

Daboss351:
“and who in there right mind is gonna look at a car running 19 psi of boost for there daughter! unless they wanted her to crash! not to mention its a stick!”

Where I responded with info on the Force Daughters.. That was followed by another comment..

DakotaEpic:
“Dude, the Force daughters are hot. Lol and Hell, I'd say they probably didn't have the typical upbringing that most daughters get when it comes to cars. We have a person at work who bought their daughter an Audi RS6 for her 16th, and about 4 months after she got it drove it into a ditch because she lost control of it.... not saying that a daughter can't own a fast car, just saying that they probably shouldn't just be handed one before being taught how it handles and whatnot.”

Now for the sake of not jacking Ether947’s thread I would like to continue this conversation here.

Excuse me gentlemen but you are both TOTALLY out of line on this!

As the father of two boys ages 21 and 24 and also a daughter age 19. I would hand a high horsepower car over to my daughter in a second before I would either the boys.
You imply that boys are ‘taught” to handle high horsepower cars and girls are not, you imply girls can’t drive a stick, you imply that a girl given a high horsepower car will run it off in ditch because she will loose control of it.
LOL your INSANE!!! :flip:

My daughter is 100% more reliable, has a TOTALLY more sensible head on her shoulders. Has never had even a fender bender. She drives a stick (possibly daughters in your area don’t have Left feet to push clutches or right hands to operate stick shift’s but here in Washington most do!) My daughter would have the sense to respect the horsepower, she wouldn’t have the EGO that would require her to flaunt her testosterone all over the street and drive like an idiot. And this reflects in Insurance cost. Check the cost of insurance for this car for a straight A Female of 19 years old and compare it to C average boy of the same age… the boy will cost close to TWICE as much, and for a REASON!!

Boys are egotistical little maniacs that THINK they know everything about cars and THINK they are better drivers because they, well… They have a pen 15!
I WAS one in my 20’s and I RAISED two more! My 21 year old son took his brand new ranger out and I guess he didn’t realize that snow was slippery (suppose MY fault, I forgot to tell him that) and slid off the freeway at 60mph in the snow. And there isn’t a female bone in his over inflated, macho, "man " sporting testosterone pumping body! My other son has already wiped out his hot rod German built Dodge Neon in a 120 mph broadside down the Autobahn because well he can do it because he’s has a pen 15!!!

Chill your testosterone gentlemen and look at it not for what your ego WANT's (or your pen 15!) but for what REALITY is!!

Women Shouldent own Turbo Coupes?

Reply #1 – June 22, 2007, 12:03:41 PM

Jim, you've gotta remember... daboss351 is like 15 years old. Not saying that his age automatically disqualifies him from having his say or anything. It's come up a couple times on here before that others feel they have better knowledge of parental decisions than the parents do. I think it'd make a great car for your daughter, we need more females interested in these cars. (We need more level-headed people, period). And no, not because 'intaerweb gurllz R SO HAWT' but because the auto enthusiast scene is so saturated with testosterone.

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Reply #2 – June 22, 2007, 12:06:20 PM

well think of it this way would you rather put your daughter in a safe dependable civic? or a turboed car pushing 19psi, that would light the tires up through first and second gear? not saying a girl cant handle it, im just saying dont think that would be a good first car for any teen, and i wouldnt want it as a first car either that thing must have some power, and id get in trouble with it, i only made that comment because you mentioned looking at it for a first car for someone. i NEVER ment it as, o a girl cant drive it, its to fast and its s stick shift, only a guy can. I ment that its NOT a first car. and yea im 16, thats why im not getting my mustang as my first car, its got to much power for me, hell the lincoln more then likely will have more then i need. you took what i said the wrong way.
and i ment by its a stick shift car, having to shift is another distraction for a first driver, thats why i stayed away from buying a standard.

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Reply #3 – June 22, 2007, 12:07:39 PM

WOOHOO!!! You go Jim!!

First of all, I'd have to guess that neither of these guys has a daughter in the first place. If they did, I doubt they'd be so shagist.

I have 2 sons and 3 daughters. The youngest daughter is now 8, and this will be her 5fth attendance at Cat Jam. She knows her way around when it comes to car shows.... she has been going to them since she was 3. We have a "1 foot" rule. She can't get closer to a car than 1 foot, if she needs help seeing into it, she asks for help.
This child was looking at a Hemi engine a few years ago and about made a guy pass out because she said it was a 'big engine'. She was about 4 at the time, and the guy was shocked to hear her say something like that.
Our oldest daughter (now 14) was out helping her dad work on the car at about age 10, she was grease from head to toe, and loving every minute of it.
The comments these two guys made prove that there are some 'boys' who shouldn't own high powered cars, or stick shifts.... because they are too full of themselves to handle them.

I'd love to see them have their asses whooped in a race by a girl.
Oh, and by the way guys... girls know really well how to handle sticks..... they have to deal with "D" 'sticks' all of the time.

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Reply #4 – June 22, 2007, 12:10:51 PM

A civic?? PUHLEEZE!

I'd rather any of my daughters drive a bird or a cat, stick or not.
A civic is going to rumple like a wad of paper in any sort of serious accident. Birds and Cats at least have a more solid body/ frame structure, and I believe are much less dangerous than some little piece of Honda.

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Reply #5 – June 22, 2007, 12:18:26 PM

Daboss... his daughter is 19. It will not be her first car. Read his post.

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Reply #6 – June 22, 2007, 12:20:02 PM

Its not one way or the other. You need to know your kid before you buy them a car. My oldest is just turned 11 this year and hes asking me if he will get the Cougar or the Bird when he starts to drive. I told him neither. Its too much for a first time driver.

I had to prove myslef to my parents before I had a car and what did I get when I did get a car. I got a 2.5L auto 89 Lebaron. Dead slow to say the least. I had that car for almost 4 years hefore the engine finally gave out. In those 4 years I got to watch my 2 older sisters that are 3 and 6 years older than me go thru 7 different cars total between the two of them. My parent would just buy htem a new one. I had to buy my second car on my own so I chose what I want. I got my 88 Bird.

The fact is that guys insurance is more because of the type of accident they get into. Girls get into the oops I bumped your car in the parking lot type accidents. Where when a guy gets into one its usually the I slammed into another car doing 85 in a 35 which made him go flying off the road and hit a bus full of nunes which then burst into flames.

Its a fact of life male testosterone takes over the brain of most 16-21 year old guy when they get behind the wheel of a car.

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Reply #7 – June 22, 2007, 12:21:45 PM

he siad in ethers post if he would be looking to buy a car for his daughter never said an age i assumed as a first car, thats what i made my statement against. i only used a civic cause girls think there cute around here. i dont see how? but sorry if i offended anyone, im not shagist!
i would put my child in a bigger american car, but everyone around here hates these old fox bodies, i love them!

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Reply #8 – June 22, 2007, 12:27:41 PM

Quote from: daboss351;156249

i inly used a civic cause girls think there cute? i dont see how? but sorry if i offended anyone, im not shagist!

You contradict yourself in those two...three? sentences. Saying "Girls think Civics are cute" is a pretty shagist remark. And if not, it's a at the least a very broad statement that can't possibly apply to every female. Judging by Jim's excellent taste in cars, I'll go out onto a limb and say maybe a FWD econobox isn't his daughter's dream car.

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Reply #9 – June 22, 2007, 12:43:21 PM

He clearly said "around here"....which was cut out of the quote...for some reason...... So that in itself disqualifies the notion that every female thinks it. And saying girls think or guys think or kids think is a lot easier that going out and giving every single person a survey and then coming back saying, "In the immediate area, 82% of 16-19 year old females say the Honda Civic is a cute car." Anything and everything is shagist or racist anymore. A lot of people are overreacting. Let's not bring over played drama that plagues CNN here.

That being said.....

I made my girlfriend buy an 88TC for her first car. And I plan to convert it to 5 speed and bring the engine up to about 300hp.

Her second car....which I also made her buy, because it was a steal, is a 95 Mustang GT. And SHE plans on supercharging it and putting a 5 or 6 speed into it!

My point being... my GIRLfriend rocks! And girls...........people can have any car they want as their first car if they have the right head on their shoulders.

Also my insurance rates reflect that I am not a typical 16-21 year old... I pay 120 a month for full coverage on my 02 SUPERCHARGED COUPE and my 84 TURBOCHARGED COUPE. It's all about the company and how you act while with that company.

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Reply #10 – June 22, 2007, 12:43:58 PM

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The fact is that guys insurance is more because of the type of accident they get into. Girls get into the oops I bumped your car in the parking lot type accidents. Where when a guy gets into one its usually the I slammed into another car doing 85 in a 35 which made him go flying off the road and hit a bus full of nuns which then burst into flames.

I can not disagree with that more.
It's not because of 'what kind of accidents they get into'. It's because they are boys, plain and simple. It's a rather shagist thing, but it's because most boys are known to be more of a hot rod type than most girls. Girls are thought to be more responsible when it comes to driving.
I don't necessarily believe that to be true, but it happens.

Just last year one of the girls from our school, a senior, was killed by her own stupidity. She was driving too fast and talking on her cell phone, she went off the road, struck a phone pole and was killed.

A few years ago, there were two boys from our school killed because they were driving too fast and their truck went over a bridge....both killed.
Kids just need to be taught how to drive, and how to do it safely. It doesn't matter if they are boys or girls... all teens do stupid things sometimes, and they never think they are going to get hurt from it.

It's the parent's responsibility to teach them and make sure they can be trusted to be safe before being allowed to drive on their own.

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Reply #11 – June 22, 2007, 12:49:51 PM

My TC was my first car. Its a stick. It has power. I did some stupid things in it, like pushing 130 down mile-long county roads. I still do stupid things in it from time to time. I guess it doesnt really matter though, since Im a guy.

I learned to drive in my moms 96 Mark VIII LSC. It was an auto, but it was just as fast if not faster than my TC. I did some stupid things in that too. Like 130 down mile-long county roads. I hit the governor in that thing a couple times. Also did some n00b driffin, as in... going off the road. Yeah.

Doesnt really matter though cause Im a guy.

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Reply #12 – June 22, 2007, 12:52:29 PM

The 'around here' part was not in his post when I quoted it. I don't misquote people.

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Reply #13 – June 22, 2007, 01:06:19 PM

Why Turbo Coupes? I haven't driven one so I don't know how fast they are.

A fast car is just that a fast car. It all comes down to your driving ability, it doesn't matter on what shag the driver is but how they do behind the wheel. I've had a couple of close calls with my Cougar but I had even more close behind the wheel of my '91 (3.0 auto) Maxima. I tend to take driving easier with my Cougar and just kind of cruise around, sure I speed and race people but its not a constant on the pedal all the time thing.

To answer the question any women can buy the car they want, it just depends on their driving ability and what they know they can do.

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Reply #14 – June 22, 2007, 01:07:12 PM

Well since it was my car that started this I guess I'll say something.

Personally, I wouldn't let my daughter or son (who is 4 btw) drive my TC unless I know they can handle it. It does not behave like normal car. It is not a car merely for transportation. It is for an enthusiast plain and simple. It can and will quickly get someone into trouble real fast (myself included) if they do not know what they are doing. Now a stock TC? Most cars rolling off the line now will crush a stock TC.

As far as the stick comment, DaBoss should know better. Hell, his mom has an 03 Cobra. My mom taught me how to drive a stick. I taught my best friend (a guy) how to drive a stick. He taught his sister how to drive one and two of his friends (one guy and one girl) how to drive a stick. Had a girl not started the whole thing off most of that would not of happened. Whether you are shagist is a matter of debate. But your comment surely was. Anytime you lump a group of people together as such there will be an "ist" attached to it. Think about that the next time before you speak.

Why would you get worked up over anything DaBoss says? His Rep Power is abysmal! lol.

Oh and my fiance almost bought a Civic because she thought it was.... "cute". She got an Accord instead. It was cuter. She won't be driving my TC anytime soon. =/