Anyone into NASCAR?

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Anyone into NASCAR?

Reply #30 – May 19, 2007, 10:26:40 AM

i feel like the odd man out. i'm a die hard back woods roundy round racer. i live for nascar.i'm old enough to remember the glory days of the stock car. when i was little was the days of the richard petty david pearson chrysler hemi vs the boss hemi. then the eighties came and the car evolved into a modern safe race car. aero became a very important factor. the cars became high tech. it was no longer a back woods endeavor but a multi million dollar operation. so the stock car hasn't been stock for 30 years but as the car got better so did the racing. dale earnhardt sr. was the man. he was my favorite driver from 1979 on. but with his passing so goes the old ways. change is good. that is why i actually like the COT. they blast a hole in the air like the cars of the eightys. i can't wait till the fall race at talladega we will see something that we haven' seen in years, the slingshot pass. well enough of the ponderings of a simple florida readneck. and yes sweet home alabama is the redneck national anthem.

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Reply #31 – May 19, 2007, 12:19:25 PM

what i would like to see in cup racing, is nascar making the drivers actually drive the cars again. they want a single body template? fine i dont care. but i say take away all the modern areo devices, and let them have what the guys in the early to mid 70's had. a 2" front air dam that was about half the width of the car, and a 2" rear spoiler that ran the width of the rear deck lid. then get rid of the restrictor plates used at daytona and talledega. then you will see real racing again where chassis setup and driver skill win the day, along with who makes the best pit stops and avoids trouble.

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Reply #32 – May 19, 2007, 12:53:39 PM

While I definitely agree with you, rbohm, I unfortunately dont see that happening. It would be awesome though.

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Reply #33 – May 19, 2007, 01:06:01 PM

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btw, if your cryin over spilled nascar sheetmetal milk where one guy bumps another guy, grow up, be a man, and realize when it comes down to winning a race and being famous and having your name in record books for a long long time as the winner of whatever nascar race.... if your chasing first you'll knock every loving hour of paint and body work off your car to win. every driver is out there like that, the ones that whine have some body guy after you wantin you to pipe up about how tony stewart tore the side of your car off when infact you were using that side of the car to stop tony, but tony drove right through you and won. now your 130,000 dollar car would be considered totaled and you get 2nd place's bounty if tony didnt feel like putting you in the wall.

Nah, it's not crying. It's called having integrity. If I was a race driver, I wouldn't feel like I had proved ANYTHING if I wrecked everyone on my way to victory. Think about it, what DOES that prove? It sure as hell doesn't prove that that person is a good driver because he/she couldn't pass people without sending them flying into the wall. Bumping and grinding is awesome and fun to watch; no problem there. Wrecking? That's just dumb. It puts lives in more danger than if they werent wrecking, and it just doesnt prove a thing about his or her driving skill.

Back when my dad raced at a local track, there was a race on my birthday, and my grandparents were down from New York, so everyone was there. At the drawing before the race, I pulled out 2nd place for dad. Goin into turn one, he had the lead. And for the next 13 laps of the 15 lap event, it stayed that way. Then 2nd place guy decided to send em to the wall comin out of turn 4, and won the race. Was his car faster that day? Probably. Was he the better driver? Hell no. Good drivers PASS people. Tracks have more than one lane for a reason. If you want to wreck, do a demo derby. If you're racing and you're faster than those ahead of you, pass them. Show the world you can beat them without sending their cars pummeling into the wall. That doesnt prove a thing except that they cant race like men. Like I said, bumping and grinding is great. That's what sets stock car racing apart from the open wheel stuff. But nudging someone is A LOT different than wrecking someone.

And for the record, Stewart is the WORST cry baby when he gets wrecked (even Stewart fans I know admit this), so that ruins your whole point anyway. He has no problem dishing it out, but man, he can't take it AT ALL. I always look forward to his interviews after he gets wrecked.

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Reply #34 – May 19, 2007, 01:41:48 PM

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UGH!!! :rolleyes:

n/m, I'll start a different thread.

Angel, the thread asks who likes NASCAR. You can't get upset that people bit the topic. It's one of those love it or hate it topics too, so it'll go like wildfire.

You should have just started with the CJ gifts as the topic.

Being that love it or hate it topic, and considering we're all driving domestic RWD coupes, half of which were actually racing in NASCAR when there were still stock parts on the cars, I'd say these pieces of memorobilia are a safe bet. :)

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Walks away thinking.... men can never follow directions!

Walks away thinking...., women keep thinking they can ask one thing and get an answer to another.

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Reply #35 – May 20, 2007, 12:25:32 AM

I like NASCAR but I also enjoy any motor racing.
But let’s not forget though ford engineered our aero coupe NASCAR had allot of help w/it especially the body kits
Let’s also not forget the quickest lap time at Daytona raceway is set by a 1987 t-bird.

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Reply #36 – May 20, 2007, 04:08:38 PM

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Nah, it's not crying. It's called having integrity. If I was a race driver, I wouldn't feel like I had proved ANYTHING if I wrecked everyone on my way to victory. Think about it, what DOES that prove? It sure as hell doesn't prove that that person is a good driver because he/she couldn't pass people without sending them flying into the wall. Bumping and grinding is awesome and fun to watch; no problem there. Wrecking? That's just dumb. It puts lives in more danger than if they werent wrecking, and it just doesnt prove a thing about his or her driving skill.

Back when my dad raced at a local track, there was a race on my birthday, and my grandparents were down from New York, so everyone was there. At the drawing before the race, I pulled out 2nd place for dad. Goin into turn one, he had the lead. And for the next 13 laps of the 15 lap event, it stayed that way. Then 2nd place guy decided to send em to the wall comin out of turn 4, and won the race. Was his car faster that day? Probably. Was he the better driver? Hell no. Good drivers PASS people. Tracks have more than one lane for a reason. If you want to wreck, do a demo derby. If you're racing and you're faster than those ahead of you, pass them. Show the world you can beat them without sending their cars pummeling into the wall. That doesnt prove a thing except that they cant race like men. Like I said, bumping and grinding is great. That's what sets stock car racing apart from the open wheel stuff. But nudging someone is A LOT different than wrecking someone.

And for the record, Stewart is the WORST cry baby when he gets wrecked (even Stewart fans I know admit this), so that ruins your whole point anyway. He has no problem dishing it out, but man, he can't take it AT ALL. I always look forward to his interviews after he gets wrecked.

meh, you kinda over blew my point. i meant bumping and grinding. this is more like what i meant.

when dale earnhardt is on your ass for 5 laps, playing hide and seek and bumpin your rear quarter. he's either ganna pass you or go through you. so most people thought when he was on thier ass "how do i let this guy around me before he aggrivates me to death?" in 1987 all star race, bill elliot had a dominating car. won the first 2 of 3 races. dale dug up all the way to bill and ended up infront of bill. you see dale was a dynamic driver, he wouldnt give you an inch and if you GAVE him and inch, he didnt respect you. so when he was runing with bill and bill tried to wreck him 3 times but earnhardt still won the race... bill never touched a wall he just got all pissy about how he got on the outside of dale (like a DUMBASS) and got his right sides cut down b/c dale was laying on him through turn 3, he whimpered and moaned and complained about how dale ****ed his race up. wah wah wah. dale didnt wreck him, ask terry lebonte in 1995 at bristol what it's like when dale wrecks someone on the last lap. but still bill was all defensive and rattled up like a baby toy. it was hilarious. bill's explaination was he had to go home and fix his 87 bird, while dale just sat around and let people fix it for him. thats a ****in LIE b/c AWESOME BILL FROM DAWSONVILLE was so dominating in the past years he had the money, if not MORE than dale or RCR and the only reason a driver even in that time to work on a car, is b/c he cant afford to pay anyone to do it for him... or! he just like to do it.

btw, when i was racing my pinto at the newly reopened senoia race way (asphault) my car lasted a season. i had to keep rebuilding the car over and over (the body anyways) b/c there were these 2 brothers that brawled and always got either good picks or on the nights southern outlaws or southern allstars were there, they'd always qualify better than me. so here i am in my nicely fixed and painted car trying to go from about 5th or 6th through the founce brothers, my car would get knocked around like a pinball. i never finished a race behind the 2 brothers, but my car always looked like it. i won 2 races, the rest of my finishes were top 5's untill the finale that ended with my car T boning a car coming out of turn 2 into the sun. he had spun ut and backed to the wall, when i got there all i saw was the sun, and then i ran into the sun! WTF. i was wide open in hot laps and that hit killed both cars. as for my dad, he was a line backer for a guy he was working with to get the track championship (which he did) now my dad wouldnt wreck you, he'd just put you high in the so mike could get by the guy and win. rubbing and banging not wrecking. well my dad's reputation followed him to sportsman and he was running an old 70's darrel waltrip chassis. it was WAY too heavy compaired to the 90's sportsman chassis he was driving against. so he was a lapper and before he even got his engine running right, some jackasses decided to go 3 wide off of 4 and ended up making my dad bounce off the inside wall jump roger delp's front AND rear tires he left the ground. he FLEW down half the streight away and backed it into the wall while all the other guys, virtually unhurt (car wise) end up in turn one all spun around with little body damage. my dad said when he saw the flag man face to face he closed his eyes, and when he landed he expected to be backed up into a couple race cars and trailors and people in the infield (he thought he went over the inside wall) but the right rear tire was aggainst the back of his seat... just to let you know how bad his end of the deal was.

i didnt find out till later, but he paid a kid that was in sportsman whatever damage went to his car and 500 on top of that to wreck delp. well the very next weekend, he did the exact same thing as my dad, only it was going into turn 3. totaled his car out just as bad as my dad's was.

oh btw, yeh your right about tony lol, i kinda forget about that time he got fined 10 or 15K for not talking to the press. he wouldnt be cryin but he'd be name callin. what i've noticed is the only drivers that complain are guys that need to run good, that are running good, or hit a wall hard enough even the safer barrier still made them hurt.

"when i saw the wall comin i sucked up a good breath.. i had my eyes closed but i wasnt hittin the wall yet, so i decided to try and get one more lil bit of air and right when i started to breathe in... BAM" that will piss you off.

im a clean driver.. but you piss me off and i'll rough up your fethers. i wont turn you around or put you in the wall, but i'll leave my mark on you. roger delp was a guy that would wreck you just because... because why? he's roger delp. posmf

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Reply #37 – May 20, 2007, 04:13:33 PM

Quote from: Innes;148437

I like NASCAR but I also enjoy any motor racing.
But let’s not forget though ford engineered our aero coupe NASCAR had allot of help w/it especially the body kits
Let’s also not forget the quickest lap time at Daytona raceway is set by a 1987 t-bird.

exactly, the aerobird comunnity owes nascar for the shape of our cars. and btw, he didnt set the record at daytona it was talledega, 213.~~mph average. never been beaten. prolly doin 260 on the back streight and having to hit the brakes and cut it like darlington.

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Reply #38 – May 20, 2007, 10:57:02 PM

It wasn't in 87. It was in 86' with a 4 eyed bird. I have an article in the 87 FMS catalog with the info in it. If I can get my scanner to work right, I'll post that fact.

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Reply #39 – May 20, 2007, 11:08:47 PM

That wasn't in a 87' bird, it was in a 86' 4-eyed bird. If I can get my scanner to work right, I'll post the article out of the 87' FMS catalog the talks about it.

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Reply #40 – May 20, 2007, 11:29:22 PM

I didn't mind Earnhardt when he was just bumpin people, but I didnt get sucked up in the hype machine. Him wrecking people was the same as anyone else in my mind. One of my all time favorite NASCAR moments was at Pocono when Jeremy Mayfield (still in the #12 Mobil 1 car) nudged Earnhardt out of the way to win on the last turn of the last lap, and when he was interviewed he said "I just rattled his cage." That was THE BEST!!! I'm not a Mayfield fan but that was just sweet revenge.

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Reply #41 – May 21, 2007, 04:48:22 AM

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It wasn't in 87. It was in 86' with a 4 eyed bird. I have an article in the 87 FMS catalog with the info in it. If I can get my scanner to work right, I'll post that fact.

lol.

this is from talladega's home website.

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In 1987, Bill Elliott established a world stock-car record when he posted a speed of 212.809 mph. in qualifying for the Aaron's 499. Mark Martin established a 500-mile stock-car record in 1997 when he won the caution-free spring Aaron's 499 with an average speed of 188.354 mph

source: http://www.talladegasuperspeedway.com/track%5Finfo/history/

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Reply #42 – May 21, 2007, 11:47:29 AM

Quote from: Autocat;148525

exactly, the aerobird comunnity owes nascar for the shape of our cars. and btw, he didnt set the record at daytona it was talledega, 213.~~mph average. never been beaten. prolly doin 260 on the back streight and having to hit the brakes and cut it like darlington.

actually bill elliot set records at BOTH daytona and talledega.

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Reply #43 – May 23, 2007, 10:31:29 PM

hmm, i didnt know that, im enlightened. but was it official? i mean i dont wanna go lookin in my nascar fact books (b/c he set said record pre "modern era" so it'll prolly be hard to find out post nextel.) i heard he ran an unrestricted engine on either daytona or talledega that instantly made nascar enforce the restrictor plate rule. i remember i saw an 86 race and elliots car stood out from a lot of the other t-birds. in 86, his header panel looked a LOT like the 87-88 header panel/grill. i mean it was distinctly square and 4 eyes but it just seemed to be rolled more into a shape like the 87-88. i swear a lot of those cars as far as the grills, header panels and stuff like that, some low budget teams used OEM parts... where as elliot had the money to "modify" the grill and make it out of sheet metal.

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Reply #44 – May 24, 2007, 07:11:12 AM

the thing most people don't know is that earnie elliot took 5/8" out of the center of the car. nascar never caught it. the car was so fast because it was narrower than the other cars