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TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Ok guys i'm going to try to make this the how to make your TC 5 lug and keep your abs thread,hopefully if my ideas work this may become a sticky or part of tech,(big if).

Now this is what i have learned so far(correct me if i'm wrong):
TC axles are 29 5/8" long with rear disc.
Sn95 axles require much machine work to make them fit tc rear rotors.
87-92 Ranger drs side axles are 29 5/8" long.
All Aerostar pass side axles are 29 5/8" long.

If i use one of the above ranger or aerostar 5lug axles.
Press off my abs rings and press them onto the aerostar/ranger axles this should allow me to keep my abs and go 5lug with the smaller 2 1/2 hub diameter of the TC rear rotors.
Then i have found a company on ebay called j2parts that manufactures 87-88tc Rear rotors when you order them(takes about 2 weeks i'm told)i asked them if when they make the rotors instead of drilling the 4 lug pattern into them if they could drill the new 5 by 4.5" lug pattern into them and they said yes they could for no extra charge(they want 69.99+shipping for crossdrilled rear TC rotors).
That's a pretty good deal if they understand what i'm telling them and do it correctly(kinda hard to mess up but hey,some people).

Now all that being said if someone that has spare parts lying around could verify:
87-88 TC axles are indeed 29 5/8" from axle  to top.
That the hub size of a TC axle or rotor is indeed 2 1/2" across.
87-92 Aerostar or ranger axle or drum center hubs are 2 1/2"
That the TC abs rings can indeed be pressed off(that may be a hard one unless someone has already done it).
Axle size should be the same diameter as they are 28 spline so the TC rings should press right onto the ranger or aerostar ones.
I want to get this solved once and for all the best way possible so if there is any info out there i would like it for everyones best interest.

Thanks guys.:birdsmily:

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #1 –
Ranger axles don't have the place for the ring.  And they are not as long as TC axles.
One 88

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #2 –
im just curious why you want the tc rear rotors? would it not be easier to use mark7 abs shafts and rotors with tc calipers? ive had both rears in my cars tc-sn95 axels and tc-lincoln axels and havent had and tire body interference
tommorow i will pull an sn shaft from one of my axels and a t-c one and put em side bay side for ya
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #3 –
Mark stuff will not work with the TC rear end,have read tons on how the axles/abs/calipers are totally differnet.

I need to know the exact length of a tc axle then,thought they were fox stang length????

As for sn 95 stuff the hub is to big and the face needs a 45degree bevel,very expensive machine work.

Sn 95 stuff is out in the front and the rear so i'm gonna try to stay away from that in this thread.

Mark vii is what i'm using in the front but not in the rear,too many problems and differance in the rear so i'll try and stay away from that in this thread as well.
I need an exact tc axle shaft measurement(measured the way eric measured axles in his 5lug swap thread at 29 5/8"),someone must have one lying around.

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #4 –
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=13253&page=2

The TC 8.8 HOUSINGS are the Mustang length...the axles are longer...

See the spreadsheet...
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #5 –
if you look at the pic in my posts thats a tc rearend with mark axels in it,
95 Ranger Splash 2.3
88 Tbird Sport :ies::ies:
5.0 SO, stainless shorty headers, w/ Magnaflow lers. KYB struts, KYB shocks. 5lug conversion from sn95 Mustang, subframe connectors, drilled and slotted rotors, 03 Mach 1 wheels. sequential taillights.140 speedo

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #6 –
Ok good info there but i'm kinda confused,i don't see any measurements for the TC axle shaft and that length is what i need to know to get the correct length axles.
If rangers and fox stangs are 29 5/8s from spline to  what is a TC axle from spline to ????
What is a mark vii axle from spline to ????
I measured my axle hub size and it is 2 1/2" across is the mark hub size also 2 1/2"???
So cougarman are you saying that mark axles are the same length as the TC axles side by side,i thought the mark axles where longer??
Need lots more info guys keep it commin.

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #7 –
All 86-88 T-Bird axles are the same length. It's the 8.8" TC HOUSING that's the Mustang length. Ford probably did that to make room for the ABS ring.
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TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #8 –
Quote from: dominator;140696
Ok good info there but i'm kinda confused,i don't see any measurements for the TC axle shaft and that length is what i need to know to get the correct length axles.
If rangers and fox stangs are 29 5/8s from spline to  what is a TC axle from spline to ????
What is a mark vii axle from spline to ????
I measured my axle hub size and it is 2 1/2" across is the mark hub size also 2 1/2"???
So cougarman are you saying that mark axles are the same length as the TC axles side by side,i thought the mark axles where longer??
Need lots more info guys keep it commin.


Did you not look at the spreadsheet?  It lists the length of TC axles and the housings.  It also lists the length of the Ranger axles...all measured the same way for comparison.  The info is there.

The Mk7 stuff is a mystery.  The early stuff is the larger disks and longer axles (which are what is listed on that spreadsheet).  At some point they switched to the 87-88TC-style rear disks (smaller).  Not sure if they went with the shorter axles at that time or not.  Someone with a 90-ish Mk7 needs to check their rear brakes and axles.

Dominator...those axles (Ranger) you have will not work and allow you to use the ABS.  They are too short.

You're not going to get away from either machine work or just swapping SN-95 rear parts into/onto your TC axle if you want 5-lug.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #9 –
anyone want me to check my 88 just tell me what you need me to do, as long as i don't have to take the diff apart
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #10 –
Quote from: daboss351;140754
anyone want me to check my 88 just tell me what you need me to do, as long as i don't have to take the diff apart


Well since '88 < '90....no....
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #11 –
well you said 90 ish so i wasn't sure
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #12 –
Quote from: dominator;140633
Ok guys i'm going to try to make this the how to make your TC 5 lug and keep your abs thread,hopefully if my ideas work this may become a sticky or part of tech,(big if).

Were working on a sticky with just such info, see the spreadsheet.
 
Quote from: dominator;140633
Now this is what i have learned so far(correct me if i'm wrong):
TC axles are 29 5/8" long with rear disc.
Sn95 axles require much machine work to make them fit tc rear rotors.
87-92 Ranger drs side axles are 29 5/8" long.
All Aerostar pass side axles are 29 5/8" long.

29-5/8= 29.625
Our Spreadsheet list
TC axels as 29.91
Ranger (drivers side) as 29.16
Areostar (passenger side) 29.16 (error in spreadsheet, listed in Column F instead of E)
 
Where did you get your info? More reliable than ours?
 
Quote from: dominator;140633
If i use one of the above ranger or aerostar 5lug axles.
Drivers or passenger side Ranger/Areostar axel? these two have differant sizes from side to side.
 
 
Quote from: dominator;140633
Now all that being said if someone that has spare parts lying around could verify:

Most (if not all) of the info in the spreadsheet HAS been verified.
 
Quote from: dominator;140633
87-88 TC axles are indeed 29 5/8" from axle  to top.

Again, where are you getting this info? It doesn’t match ours.
Help us out here Dominator. If there are Hub size differances we could possably add that to the spreadsheet also.
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TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #13 –
PLUS
We get to give Chuck a Headache!!
:evilgrin:
:birdsmily:   Objects In Mirror Appear to be Loosing  :birdsmily:

TC axle to 5lug conversion on a TC.

Reply #14 –
Chuck i don't have any axles yet so this is a good thing.

Cougarman says his tc rear end has mark vii axles and it works perfectly in his tc rear end(have to verify what year axles he is using and do a side by side comparison with a 87-88 tc and 90-92 mark axle).

The info i got on the ranger drs and aerostar pass axles is off eric's tech at 29 5/8".
Eric's info is a little confusing where it's worded about 8.8s and tc's to me anyways.
The spreadsheet guys is cool but again a little confusing and there was a bunch of missing info.
As for axle hub diameter, i'm talking about where the rotor meets the axle.
The sn95 stuff is 2 3/4", the tc stuff is 2 1/2",not sure about the mark stuff but since the front hubs would have to be the same i would say the mark vii rear axles also have a 2 1/2"hub where the rotor mounts.
If the 90-92 mark vii axles are indeed the same length as the TC axles and same hub diameter problem solved as i will use those and my 5lug made tc rotors from j2parts will bolt right up and i'll call it a day.
However i thought the mark axles where longer therefore this would not work.