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HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

I have an 84 Cougar. 5.0 CFI. Kingcars and I were discussing the HO conversion. What exactly would my CFI engine take to do the HO conversion apposed to the "newer" SO EFI engines?
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
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1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit

 

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #1
You'll probably need all the stuff I just bought from vinnietbird as I'm doing the same thing, sort of.  Because '85 and earlier weren't roller cams, I have a different cam than the stock Mustang piece.  What you'll need is basically the EFI intakes, harness, fuel injectors, fuel rail & lines, fuel pump, computer, and a lot of other odds & ends (Sensors and stuff).  I think the easiest way to do it would be to find a junk T-bird/Cougar with SEFI and do a side-by-side swap.  That and an EVTM will be your friend.  I got one for about $12 on eBay.

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #2
Quote from: Ifixyawata;136848
  That and an EVTM will be your friend.  I got one for about $12 on eBay.


I agree with the EVTM.

The single greatest tool you will ever buy for a conversion...period.;)
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HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #3
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I think the easiest way to do it would be to find a junk T-bird/Cougar with SEFI and do a side-by-side swap.


He's looking to go HO not just do an SEFI upgrade.
About the only thing that would be useful to him is the wiring harness and a few sensors from an SEFI t-bird or cougar....
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--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #4
D'oh!  I guess buying a whole car for essentially the wiring harness is pretty dumb.  I'm just re-capping the parts that I've acquired.  I have the computer for a MkVII because I'll be using a cam with a 351 firing order and the E7TE heads... so mine's kind of a half-assed HO conversion I guess.

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #5
I dont have a set plan for what I intend to do to my engine as of yet. I would like to just get wheels, exhaust, and suspension done. Paint is pristine on my car(for now). I would like to rebuild it and stroke it to a 347. Anthony(kingcars) and I were discussing his power gains, and how much more responsive my Cougar seems to be after I chopped the ler off(odd I know). I pointed out that mine was CFI, and neither of us knew exactly what it would take to do such a conversion on the older style "EFI".
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
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1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #6
Quote from: Ifixyawata
I have the computer for a MkVII because I'll be using a cam with a 351 firing order and the E7TE heads... so mine's kind of a half-assed HO conversion I guess.


How is that a half-assed conversion?  The HO 5.0 and 351 share the same firing order........

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I pointed out that mine was CFI, and neither of us knew exactly what it would take to do such a conversion on the older style "EFI".


The biggest differences are of course your CFI setup AND your tappet-style camshaft.  If you wanna go roller cam you must do one of 2 things.
1.  Buy a retrofit roller cam for a flat tappet block
2. Swap your block.

Believe it or not #2 is cheaper.....  Find you a wrecked Mustang with a good motor for the easiest way to obtain all parts needed.
-- 05 Mustang GT-Whipplecharged !!
--87 5.0 Trick Flow Heads & Intake - Custom Cam - Many other goodies...3100Lbs...Low12's!

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #7
If your not really set on SEFI you could just throw a 4bbl and intake on it. You could then modify to your hearts content.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

HO Conversion on a CFI 5.0

Reply #8
As before mentioned. I have strongly thought about buying a 5.0 out of a Mustang and rebuilding mine seperately. Also thought about carbing it. I dont know yet, that is farther down my to do list. But it got me thinking. I almost had an wrecked 83 Heritage, but the Motherf**kers crushed it.
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit