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Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

I'm going to throw a mini starter on my Bird tomorrow (more out of necessity then wanting to:punchballs: ).  I've seen the diagram on Cool Cats ( thank you Eric!), but am wondering what gauage wiring I need.  I can't measure it because the car is in the parking lot of my church.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

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Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #1
14-16 gauge should be fine,it's just a wire to tell the solenoid to engauge and really has no amperage going through it.

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #2
I did the swap about a year or so ago.It took a while to get used to the fact that my car sounds like a Mopar when it starts.I don't mind,as long as it doesn't ever sound like a GM.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #3
Right now I just want my car to make any sound.  Thanks for the info.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #4
I hear ya'.Bolt that thing on,add the new wire,move the original wire over one on the sylenoid,and add the new wire to the sylenoid where the original was.Done.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #5
How long does it take your guys' cars to start? My mini starter cranks about the same amount as the old one, somewhere in the ~7-10 crank range, occasionally 2-3 when the car's warm. Of course, this is on an old and worn 5.0.
1988 Thunderbird Sport

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #6
2-3 always for my car.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #7
I'm hoping its just my old motor thats being slow. I can have as many CCA as I want, or two batteries attached, and it still starts at the same speed. All connections clean and everything (well not at the moment, I need to relocate the alternator wire as it keeps corroding my battery terminal within days). No idea how clean it is in there, but I'm sure there's a bit of sludge in places (previous owner didn't do oil changes regularly enough).

Whenever I can afford to get a new engine and have the time to install it, its new 0 and 4 gauge wires all around.
1988 Thunderbird Sport

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #8
:slap: Hijacker!

Ok, I just threw a brand new starter in last night, and now it's acting up.  Everytime I come to a stop and the RPMs drop below 1000, it starts shaking like a massage chair.  It stops as soon as I hit the gas.  Just for reference, I use one from a 97 F250 5.8L.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #9
mini? Check your wire connections?
1988 Thunderbird Sport

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #10
Yeah it is a mini, and we did have to wire it a little funny for a while, but i just fixed it and it still acts up.
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #11
make sure the gear fully disengages the flywheel
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
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Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #12
I think you have a new problem!
Old Grey Cat to this.88 Cat, 5.0 HO, CW mounts, mass air, CI custom cam, afr165's, Tmoss worked cobra intake, BBK shorty's,off road h pipe, magnaflow ex. T-5,spec stage 2 clutch, 8.8 373 TC trac loc, che ajustables with bullits on the rear. 11" brakes up front. +

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #13
your shudder is not caused by your starter.

when was the last time you did a tune up?  You could have got some bad gas, have a fouled plug, broke a plug wire, knocked a wire loose, etc.  since it happened right after the starter swap I would assume you might have busted a plug or broke a plug wire.  check all the wires and connections.

Mini Starter conversion- SOLVED

Reply #14
Sorry I took so long getting back to this. Wanted to check everything first.

I pulled all the plugs, and they looked fine.  Checked the wires also.  They are only two years old, but you never know.  Cap and rotor looked a little to worn for 6 months, but not bad enough to cause this. 

The reason I bring most of this up is that my vacuum manifold broke today.  The left most plug snapped clean off as I was driving.  Could this have caused the stumble?  Also, this is the 2nd one that broke in about 3 years.  Is it a common problem?  Has anyone thought of making one out of sheetmetal?
1988 Thunderbird Sport (1st car)
351W in the works
"I'll get it one piece at a time...":D

Quote from: bhazard;300566
You got woman'd.