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I ordered my 5.0 HO!

So I ordered my 5.0 HO from the machine shop today:D . It should be done by March 5th (he had to order the heads and block) so my HO swap should be under way in a few weeks.

Specs are a follows:

Block:
Cleaned, aligne honed, and cylinders bored .030 over (306:D )
Cleaned up stock crank
New rods and hyper pistons
All new main, rod, and cam bearings as well as piston rings.
New oil pump
New harmonic balancer

Heads:
GT-40 iron heads from a 1993 Mustang Cobra
3 angle valve job
Thermactor bumps removed
New stainless steel valves (stock size)
New valve seals and guides

Valve train:
New stock 87-93 HO roller cam and lifters
new pushrods
1.6 factory rockers (I might go with 1.7 roller rockers in the future)
New double roller timing chain and gears

Misc:
New oil pan
New front cover
New Ford Motorsports water pump
Ford Racing "COBRA" aluminium valve covers.

Basicaly the only old parts on this are the block and crank. Everything else is new :D . I'll have pics of the machiene work as it progresses because the owner is going to take pics and send them to me as work progresses. I know :ttiwwp: so here's some of the valve covers to tide you guys over.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

I ordered my 5.0 HO!

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NICE gonna be sweet!
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Dude if your gonna spend the coin, go with the factory trw forged pistons,not the 93 hyper pistons,hyper pistons are usless for nitrous,turbo's or superchargers.
Just my .02 in case of future mods.
The only HO that came with hypers was the 93, and it the least desirable of all the 302s.

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cool

I ordered my 5.0 HO!

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! you could have had a 351w built, if you're letting a machine shop buy all these parts for you. and its all stock stuff?? are you getting a reach-around, too?
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Quote from: dominator;128186
Dude if your gonna spend the coin, go with the factory trw forged pistons,not the 93 hyper pistons,hyper pistons are usless for nitrous,turbo's or superchargers.
Just my .02 in case of future mods.
The only HO that came with hypers was the 93, and it the least desirable of all the 302s.


I thought about forged but I really don't need them. The car is never going to see nitros or a blower so I didn't think that forged pistons were worth it. If I was going to build an all out motor then I would have used forged pistons. That may be in the future for a certain LTD II I know of;) .

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! you could have had a 351w built, if you're letting a machine shop buy all these parts for you. and its all stock stuff?? are you getting a reach-around, too?


It's only costing me $1,800. If I bought all the stuff + machine work it would be $1,800 anyway all together. I know it's all stock stuff but the car isn't going to be a drag car just a crusier that I can take to the track and turn a high 14 if I want. Another reason for going with stock stuff is reliability. I want to have the engine built and have it run for years with just general maintinance. The guy has been in business for 30+ years and he does alot of engines for muscle cars and drag/circle track cars in the area so he's very good. Sure I may spend more but to me it's worth it to get an engine that's reliable and built properly.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

I ordered my 5.0 HO!

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I dont think it's a bad price at all for what basically amounts to a GT-40 long block concidering that the shop is doing all the assembly work. The engine should make an honest 250 HP (maybe a bit more) at the flywheel.

I think you're gonna enjoy the hell out of it when its done! Sounds like a nice build. While the engine is out I'd think seriously about getting a 2400 stall converter. Especially since you already have 3.73's... Now would definitely be the time to upgrade the converter.
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Sounds like a great plan! The only thing I would change on the long block is stepping up a cam, like the B303. Still emissions legal, nice and reliable, but it would "bump" a little more and give you 20-25 more HP. The stock HO cam is really mild. Otherwise, sounds very healthy and a darn good price. What are you using for an intake, headers, and ignition?

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sounds great man. id still re consider those forged pistons. they arent expensive realy and are every bit as "reliable" as the stockers. i know you dont see it in the future but while its open it would almost be foolish not too., just in case. id hate to see you sometime down the road whish you had. consider how quick alot of these modern cars are. chrap, you need 300 hp just to "keep up with the jonses" fricken minivan these days. if ya realy want to keep it stock, dont even bother with the ho swap. plans change all the time. otherwise, enjoy the heck out of it. should be a fun swap. you have a nice car there either way.
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Reply #9 –
Sounds cool.
So when you getting the Cobra/GT-40 intake?

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hyper pistons are shiznit.

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I think you're gonna enjoy the hell out of it when its done! Sounds like a nice build. While the engine is out I'd think seriously about getting a 2400 stall converter. Especially since you already have 3.73's... Now would definitely be the time to upgrade the converter
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That's in the plan for next year. I plan on doing a tranny rebuild next year, when I have some more money:D .


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Sounds like a great plan! The only thing I would change on the long block is stepping up a cam, like the B303. Still emissions legal, nice and reliable, but it would "bump" a little more and give you 20-25 more HP. The stock HO cam is really mild. Otherwise, sounds very healthy and a darn good price. What are you using for an intake, headers, and ignition?


If I was going the mass air route I would be getting a bigger cam but since I'm sticking with speed density I need the stock HO cam. For an intake and headers I'm using the stock stuff, for now. I plan on getting a GT-40 style (GT-40 tubular, Cobra, or Explorer) intake as funds allow. I'm also looking at a set of BBK headers as well as 2.5 exhaust again as funds allow. The ignition is going to be new stock Motorcraft stuff. I have a budget of $2,200 for all of this and the $400 left over is going for all the misc stuff I need to get it running (new Ford Racing injectors, motor mounts, hoses, belt, plugs, and other misc parts). I'd love to get the stuff now but I need the money for school, lest I get kicked out for not paying tuition:hick: .


 
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sounds great man. id still re consider those forged pistons. they arent expensive realy and are every bit as "reliable" as the stockers.


I know but I just don't see the need for them. I'm not going to use a blower or nitros so to me they're a waste of money that can be spent else where. If I was you can be sure I'd have forged pistons in there.

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Sounds cool.
So when you getting the Cobra/GT-40 intake?


After I pay off my tuition at UIC:hick: . Or you could give me yours and I'll send you a nice stock HO one for free;)

 
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hyper pistons are shiznit.


My car is still going to be faster than yours :shakeass: ;)
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

I ordered my 5.0 HO!

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Quote from: thunderjet302;128414
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My car is still going to be faster than yours :shakeass: ;)


Conceited much? Its not the Horsepower or torque... those are just numbers. If you cant drive for shiznit, what are those numbers gonna do for ya.

Have a GREAT rest of the day.

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Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;128431
Conceited much? Its not the Horsepower or torque... those are just numbers. If you cant drive for shiznit, what are those numbers gonna do for ya.

Have a GREAT rest of the day.


I was making a joke :D
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

I ordered my 5.0 HO!

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Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;128431
Conceited much? Its not the Horsepower or torque... those are just numbers. If you cant drive for shiznit, what are those numbers gonna do for ya.

Have a GREAT rest of the day.

Don't get pissed off because the guy has the money to do shiznit the right way.