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are all brakes the same?

the auto parts store sells 3 differant (grades) of brakes.
for normal use back and forth to car shows  & some showing off :evilgrin: which grade do I pick?

are all brakes the same?

Reply #1
Ceramic... less brake dust and lighter in colour. Plus they aren't so rough on your rotors as semi-metallics.

Did I mention better stopping? :D
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are all brakes the same?

Reply #2
Quote from: Ether947;116164
Ceramic... less brake dust and lighter in colour. Plus they aren't so rough on your rotors as semi-metallics.

Did I mention better stopping? :D


I should have said it for the black cat and will points be deducted at shows

are all brakes the same?

Reply #3
Wait a minute...are you saying you're buying new rotors and pads for the GS?

:looks out window:

Hmm...hell hasn't frozen over yet and the Browns aren't in the Super Bowl. ;)
 
It must suck, getting only 21 years out of your ORIGINAL ones! :bowdown:

For OEM appearance and quality I would recommend Raybestos rotors. They'll be about $50 each but they are as close to OEM as I've ever found. Far as pads, definitely semi-metallic (as per OEM) with a lifetime warranty--which you may or may not ever use. ;) Brand-wise, I'd say pick a name you recognize.

You would probably also be interested in new bearings to go with the new rotors, yes? I like Timken bearings because they are good, and also because they are made in Canton which helps our Ohio economy. I try to buy from Ohio mfrs. and vendors as much as possible. However, Perfect Circles are also just as good.

Ric, you'll also have to (eventually) report back as to whether the stock outer bearings were metal or plastic. The OEM ones on my '86s were plastic. I don't know when the changeover took place.

are all brakes the same?

Reply #4
Quote from: EricCoolCats;116185
Wait a minute...are you saying you're buying new rotors and pads for the GS?

:looks out window:

Hmm...hell hasn't frozen over yet and the Browns aren't in the Super Bowl. ;)
 
It must suck, getting only 21 years out of your ORIGINAL ones! :bowdown:

For OEM appearance and quality I would recommend Raybestos rotors. They'll be about $50 each but they are as close to OEM as I've ever found. Far as pads, definitely semi-metallic (as per OEM) with a lifetime warranty--which you may or may not ever use. ;) Brand-wise, I'd say pick a name you recognize.

You would probably also be interested in new bearings to go with the new rotors, yes? I like Timken bearings because they are good, and also because they are made in Canton which helps our Ohio economy. I try to buy from Ohio mfrs. and vendors as much as possible. However, Perfect Circles are also just as good.

Ric, you'll also have to (eventually) report back as to whether the stock outer bearings were metal or plastic. The OEM ones on my '86s were plastic. I don't know when the changeover took place.




:laughing: :laughing: :rollin:

what! he has to change out the factory parts  :slap: :grinno:

and yes the factory bearings should have an off white plastic housing holding the rollers in place to the race.

for one my meny years in the auto parts field.

and two thats what my car had in the rotors ;)

and as for what brake pads to use in my opinion go with what would be stock.. which is semi metallic which is middle of the road sort of  speek..Ceramic will be to hard of a compound thats why they don't make dust.and are made for racing and will make just as much dust on a race track when they get hot. from my experence with brake pads the Ceramic pads don't work well on the street since they never get really warm or hot like other pads.. and don't have the same stoping power untill they get to the proper tempature which is much hotter then semi metallics.

back some time we tryed a set on my friends grand national and he could'nt get the car to stop right and so we pulled the pads off and put a set of cheapos "ronco" and at the time in the early 90's where like $12.99 and the car stoped on the dime..

i have Raybestos pads in my car like $19.99 at pepboys..

thats what i would go with unless you want the factory pads..

i can't rememer the whole part number but it's something like

E6ZZ-2001-a

Nick
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there's only about a half a dozen man made objects that are herd by the human ear below 40Hz,a pipe organ,thunder,the space shuttle lifting off,a jet airplane taking off or landing,a large canon,an atomic bomb ignited in your back yard and the heat wave afterward oh wait you would be dead so you would'nt hear it scratch that!,and maybe beating your hear against a wall less then 40 times a second..rap music is'nt one of them!thats 40-60Hz@100+db the moving air is under 40Hz

are all brakes the same?

Reply #5
Quote from: EricCoolCats;116185
Hmm...hell hasn't frozen over yet and the Browns aren't in the Super Bowl. ;)


But they are tied with last years super bowl champs! :rollin:
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are all brakes the same?

Reply #6
Quote from: Blown306Cougar;116229
and as for what brake pads to use in my opinion go with what would be stock.. which is semi metallic which is middle of the road sort of speek..Ceramic will be to hard of a compound thats why they don't make dust.and are made for racing and will make just as much dust on a race track when they get hot. from my experence with brake pads the Ceramic pads don't work well on the street since they never get really warm or hot like other pads.. and don't have the same stoping power untill they get to the proper tempature which is much hotter then semi metallics.

...not so
 
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[SIZE=+1]Ceramic Brake Lining Material[/SIZE]
 
Although first introduced as far back as 1985 on some new vehicles, mass aftermarket applications for ceramic-based disc brake pads are just now becoming widely available. Approximately 33 percent of all new vehicles, domestic and foreign combined, now have ceramic-based disc brake pads. The newest generation of ceramic brake lining compounds contain no chopped steel fibers or steel wool as found in earlier semimetallic linings, but instead substitute ceramic compounds and copper fibers. These changes provide modern ceramic-based lining materials the capability of handling today's high brake temperatures with less heat fade, faster recovery time, and less wear on both the pads and rotors.
 
Of even more value to brake repair facilities is the ability of ceramic lining compounds to significantly reduce annoying brake noise or squeal, which is the No. 1 consumer complaint relating to brake service. Ceramic compounds dampen noise and move brake pad vibrations to a frequency outside of our human hearing range, 20 Hz through 20,000 Hz. As with earlier disc brake pad designs, some ceramic pad applications may also incorporate other noise-reducing features such as chamfers, slots and insulator shims. One leading aftermarket manufacturer has gone as far as naming its line of ceramic brake pads "Quiet Stop."
 
Another positive characteristic associated with ceramic brake lining materials is the absence of visible brake dust, a feature that any vehicle owner with stylish wheels will appreciate. All brake materials, ceramic included, will produce some brake dust. Earlier semimetallic and organic brake compounds left a brownish black dust on wheels. In comparison, ceramic compounds produce a light-colored dust that is much less noticeable and does not attach itself to wheels.
 Although an increase in product cost will more than likely be associated with ceramic-based brake linings, their benefits may be worthwhile for consumers. Based on their own durability tests, lining manufacturers say these compounds will outlast most other premium pad materials by a considerable margin. However, aftermarket brake pads with ceramic materials should only be used on those applications where the OEM specified a similar formula.

http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov2002/mech.cfm
 
But I know diddly about car show requirements... :dunce:
2005 Subaru WRX STi|daily driver

are all brakes the same?

Reply #7
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But they are tied with last years super bowl champs!


LOL Sad but true...however...the Steelers have made it to the Super Bowl 6 times within my lifetime, and won 5 out of those 6.
And the Browns?

Still hangin' onto that dream. ;)

[SIZE="1"](I'm just pickin' on Ric because I *think* he's a Browns fan).[/SIZE]

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Reply #8
Quote from: EricCoolCats;116307


[SIZE="1"](I'm just pickin' on Ric because I *think* he's a Browns fan).[/SIZE]


1 -the rotors are still in good shape (but, I will check out those      bearings for you)
2 -I could give a rats a** about pro football, Sorry Eric
I guess I'll go with the middle of the road riveted pads
thanks

are all brakes the same?

Reply #9
How about picking up some Performance Friction brake pads, they looked like they were pretty close to stock last I remember.
Temporarily Foxless? Ride the Bull...

are all brakes the same?

Reply #10
I put some cheapo organic pads on my old Mustang when I swapped to 11" brakes on it, and they lasted me over 50K. Never had a problem with brake dust either.

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