The Irony of this Photo

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Reply #15 – November 10, 2006, 11:44:06 PM

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;112782

I intensely enjoy watching and listening to other wildlife while waiting for the deer to make his mistake. Bald eagles, hawks, porcupines, owls, skunks, rabbits, a bear once - even mice, squirrels and weasels are cool to watch when they don't know you're watching them

You make me want to go wander in the woods :p I've lived in the county most of my life and the novelty of seeing wild animals 'do their thing' still hasnt worn off. I hope it never will. There is a whole world out there that sadly most of the population will never see off of animal planet. Come face to face with a bear in the woods and you will know what I mean, an amazing experience. Nature can really open your eyes with its pure simplicity and how well it works.

Scott

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Reply #16 – November 11, 2006, 08:51:14 AM

I know all about nature. I have 12 acres of untouched woods behind my house, where we have a family of 6 deer, countless rapuppiess, ground hogs, birds, etc etc. I love going out camping, which ive been doing for years. I love nature as much as the next, but im not a big fan of hunting.

I feel that if we cant catch it, we shouldnt eat it.

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Reply #17 – November 11, 2006, 01:59:38 PM

But we can catch it. Coyotes and wolves rely on speed and big teeth. Bears rely on sheer strength. Eagles rely on eyesight and being able to swoop down on their prey. Humans rely on the intelligence to use tools where nature left us short. Almost ALL animals rely on the element of surprise - a hunter sitting in a blind is no different than a lion waiting behind some tall grass for a gazelle to get close enough or an eagle sweeping down on a rabbit. It's not very often that the prey knows it's about to become dinner, else it wouldn't become dinner.

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Reply #18 – November 11, 2006, 08:43:21 PM

Last time I really got to enjoy nature was down at my aunt's house in WV a year or 2 ago. They have a house sitting on around 20 acres with no one around. I was sitting on the back porch one morning and this doe came around the corner of the house, I sat as still as I could and she walked right by not even noticing me. Makes me really hate living where I do. Although we did have a black bear take a stroll down the street once, that was odd.

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Reply #19 – November 12, 2006, 07:50:14 AM

While yes, each animal relies on something for their hunting ability, everything they rely on is part of themselves. As human beings, we are weak creatures, and it seems like by body design, we were meant to be more or less scavangers. If you threw a person out in the middle of a rain forest, butt naked, no food, shelter or tools, theyd live off of berries, fruits, bugs, and things of that nature, because they arnt physically capable of man-handling these animals.

Thats how i see it. I know i wont get anywhere talking about it, since i seem to be the only one that see's it this way.

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Reply #20 – November 12, 2006, 09:39:17 AM

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I know i wont get anywhere talking about it, since i seem to be the only one that see's it this way.

Don't worry, you're not the only one that thinks some so-called "hunters" are really just immature little kiddies trying to prove they're "all growed up" by killing some random animal. :shakehead

Want to bag something bigger? Call one of those "canned hunting" places, where they'll release a semi-tame bear into a fenced-off area, and you can just walk right up and blow it away. If you have shaky hands, they can even chain it to a stump for you, so you can't miss. Guaranteed "trophy", Bwana.
Woohoo, lookit me Maw, I'm a MAN now!! :bs:

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Reply #21 – November 12, 2006, 10:55:00 AM

Quote from: MasterBlaster;113002

Don't worry, you're not the only one that thinks some so-called "hunters" are really just immature little kiddies trying to prove they're "all growed up" by killing some random animal. :shakehead

Want to bag something bigger? Call one of those "canned hunting" places, where they'll release a semi-tame bear into a fenced-off area, and you can just walk right up and blow it away. If you have shaky hands, they can even chain it to a stump for you, so you can't miss. Guaranteed "trophy", Bwana.
Woohoo, lookit me Maw, I'm a MAN now!!

Before this gets out of hand, and runs into some political, don't kill the bambi argument, I want to make a couple good points.

I can see where some of the eastern city dwelling people may not hold with hunting, but it's a matter of natural selection, to counter what Masterblaster said, most hunters wait for a big buck, or doe, as opposed to shooting a little fawn.
"Selection"...

Secondly, deer here are so thick, that each year if a few hundred thousand are killed, it's a good thing, less crop damage, less insurance claims, less people killed or hurt in vehicle/deer accidents, etc..
While I'm on the subject of crop damage, what will happen to the economy if some of the nations wheat or soybean production was harmed by deer wiping it out? Not good. More dependence on foreign produced good, food, and other stuff.

Third, it's my privilege, and as long I can, I will.
As a landowner, I can legally acquire deer tags to take 3 deer. Will I take 3 deer? Probably not. Will I try to, yes.

I'm all the time seeing/reading/hearing about the "fight" between hunters and anti-hunting people.
Maybe the anti-hunters need to have the front end of their hybrid Toyota Prius wiped out by an animal they don't understand, and don't realize what will happen if the population of deer were allowed to run unchecked. Apparently they've never seen the damage an out-of-control, too large population of deer can do.

Now, the purpose of using large rifles is to enable clean, quick kills. Missouri Regulations forbid the use of anything smaller than .40 caliber and centerfire ammunition only.
I have no problem with attempting to take deer with a spear, or club, in fact, it's how our ancestors did it.
Those organized hunts where they go shoot a tied up bear, or whatever...while it may not be "hunting" in it's purest state...IT is common, and legal, although I wouldn't take an animal that way.

And as far as being "immature little kiddies" I'm satisfied in knowing I can outsmart a deer in his own environment, to be a part of the food chain, to have my place in nature.
I don't kill deer because I need some "ego trip"...

One more thing, deer here are around 70-75 bucks apiece to process at the meat locker, regardless of size, and regulations say that any antler deer has to have at least 4 points on side...so why would anybody want to take a small deer?

And personally, I think a well prepared and cooked deer steak tastes better than beef anyway...

For all those who oppose hunting, I suggest trying it, take some hunter safety classes, go on a hunt with some people, even if you don't want to take game.

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Reply #22 – November 12, 2006, 11:11:19 AM

Nuke the whales! :hick:

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Reply #23 – November 12, 2006, 01:48:53 PM

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Reply #24 – November 13, 2006, 10:29:28 AM

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If you threw a person out in the middle of a rain forest, butt naked, no food, shelter or tools, theyd live off of berries, fruits, bugs, and things of that nature, because they arnt physically capable of man-handling these animals.

No they wouldn't. They'd invent tools from things they could find in their surroundings and, using the natural gifts of superior intellect and opposable thumbs, would kill and eat one of those animals that they are not physically capable of man-handling. And maybe have a berry filled bug for dessert.

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Reply #25 – November 13, 2006, 10:57:03 AM

Quote from: Tbird232ci;112991

If you threw a person out in the middle of a rain forest, butt naked, no food, shelter or tools, theyd live off of berries, fruits, bugs, and things of that nature, because they arnt physically capable of man-handling these animals.

Well if you haven't learned anything from the discovery channel, we would inevitably become like the predators that we originally were (Though we are a pack species), our muscle mass would increase (to take the bigger animals, we would learn to stalk prey, and if out of necessity we would use our hands but most likely sharp rocks.

But yes it would take time and I can understand were you are coming from too.

Daniel

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Reply #26 – November 24, 2006, 12:32:16 PM

Quote from: stuntmannick;113025

People for the
Eating of
Tasty
Animals lol

I have to say that I somewhat agree with the gun position, it is a little bit unfair to shoot a deer with a rifle from 250 yards, but there is always bow hunting. Besides the population control abilities that a rifle season affords us are more than worth the little tingle of guilt I get for blasting bambi's dad. Who wants to put a new front end on their car because some concrete jungle dwellers, who don't know shiznit about nature in the first place, think that deer are "cute." I'm not saying everyone who lives in a city is stupid, but when it comes to life in the country, which btw is where deer live, most don't know shiznit.