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Well so much for that....

Well it seems the troubles I've been having with the 2.3T in the '83 are becoming terminal.  The blowby has gotten worse and the death tap from a few weeks ago is back.  No more money is going into the 2.3T.

The plan that is formulating....

The X-Flow/US200 hybrid is planned for this car, but is going to require ALOT more work to get together, and I don't want the car down forever.

So, here's what I'm thinking.  I'm going to use the '83 as the mock-up/install mule for my SHO swap.  At the very least get the basics sorted out and make sure my adapter is kosher, etc.  This will get the car back on the road with "little" fuss.  Yes I have to make motor mounts, rotate the intake and mod the cooling system...but that's nothing compared to what needs to be done for the X-Flow hybrid.  I have a couple SHO motors, but I know where a good running one is for a good price, so no rebuild needed at this point. 
This will allow me to keep the 83 on the road next spring and give me more time to sort out the intimates of applying boost to the X-Flow.  Then I can drop the lot into the 84TC when the X-Flow is ready.
I also need to mod the K-member, etc for the X-Flow...so that's more work too.

I'm a little miffed, but not much I can do and I'm not going to beat myself up over the 2.3T dying.  Too much to do to take the time to ;)
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #1
well, thats an interesting develpoment....
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

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Reply #2
Quote from: gumby;104751
well, thats an interesting develpoment....

Heh.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #3
2.3Ts are starting to become my unicorn. Can't wait to see that turbo 6 swap tho... or that SHO swap... or those rear shock mounts... or that custom IRS... or those Pics! :D
2005 Subaru WRX STi|daily driver

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Reply #4
Rear shock mounts might be able to ship early next week...
The IRS..well there is an interesting wrinkle in that whole plan ...

Pics...perhaps....depends on the weather.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #5
Quote from: Chuck W;104749
  No more money is going into the 2.3T.

Chuck has spoken and the 2.3T world will change as you all know it....

Quote from: Chuck W;104763
The IRS..well there is an interesting wrinkle in that whole plan ...

:headbang::headbang:


This is awsome.  Aside from your 83 being down for longer than you (we) had hoped.
One 88

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Reply #6
Quote from: Chuck W;104763

The IRS..well there is an interesting wrinkle in that whole plan ...



Quote from: CougarSE;104774


This is awsome.  Aside from your 83 being down for longer than you (we) had hoped.


The wrinkle on the IRS isn't a good one..... :dunce:
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #7
boy, do i love a good thread where you hafta know whats goin on in order to know whats goin on :rollin:
gumby - beauty may fade, but stupid is forever!

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Reply #8
Quote from: gumby;104792
boy, do i love a good thread where you hafta know whats goin on in order to know whats goin on :rollin:

Yeah, I don't see any work happening on that in the forseable future...
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #9
LOL the headbanger and the next sentance were two totally different parts!  I do know whats going on :D
One 88

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Reply #10
Chuck, do you need/want tailights and a cowl cover for your box cat? I have them. I cant even give them away, you want em they're yours.
"Real cars dont power the front wheels, they lift them"
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1984 Mercury Cougar GS 5.0:cougarsmily: BBK Equal Length Shorties, BBK O/R X-Pipe, Magnaflow Magnapacks, Mustang GT Stainless Tailpipes, 18" Magnaflow Rolled Edge Tips. Turbo Coupe Hood, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler. 17"x9" Cobra R's, Falken Ziex 255/50s, and 245/45s.
1984 Ford Thunderbird 3.8L "Drag Queen"
2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Lone Star Edition 5.7L Hemi 400hp, lex DOD14M Magnaflow retro-fit ler kit

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Reply #11
Come on Chuck you can't give up now. I'm one my 2nd block and I can tell you how many heads I've bought. I think out of 9heads I've got 3 useable ones. So the 2.3 can suck at times. But if you stick with it will pay off. Trust me. Even though i'm running a round port ranger head nonported. Even though I still don't have my front mount becuase all the extra time with the motor. But it is all coming together now. Have been driving the car or about a year and a half as my everyday car. I only put on the ranger head about 3mos ago.
If I can do it I know you can.
84 Turbo coupe 2.3T Modded with 88 upper and lower intake, 88 injectors, E6 manifold, T3-4 AR.60 turbo, 31X12X3 FMIC, Homemade MBC , Greddy knock off BPV.
4 eyes see better than 2! 
Da Bird!

FreeBird

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Reply #12
Oh I'm not giving up, but I already had other plans for this car, and messing around with fixing the 2.3T will just detract from that financially and timewise. 
I don't NEED to drive the car, so it can sit for a bit while I sort out the other stuff I need to get out of the way first.  I've been messing with the 2.3T's for 10+ years, and just have some other things I want to do.  I may put another 2.3T together and drop it in the 84TC to shake the cobwebs off it before I get the X-Flow done and the SHO swap into it, but it's not a high priority.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #13
OK, I took a step back and did a little digging on this.
I did a compression check Fri ... 150/130/145/35 (<--yes that's a 35).  I put a little oil into #4 and retested it and it only came up to 50.  So the issue may not be the bottom end.
I am going to pull the head and check a couple things and perhaps throw another one on it....
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon

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Reply #14
What is the X-Flow?

Are you going to turbocharge the SHO engine?  Just keep in mind that all the added 4V complexity and wonderful intake ports will not necessarily increase power production under forced induction.  There comes a point where the dominant power producer becomes the turbo/supercharger itself and the critical components become those taking the beating from the cylinder pressure and heat.

I'm certain you already know that.  But the idea does sound good.

BTW - those cylinder pressures are pretty similar to the numbers I had in mine when this happened.  Best of luck with yours.
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1984 Thunderbird V8