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September 12, 2006, 09:54:33 PM

Go to E-Bay,look up the Australian E-Bay,type in Ford badges,and check them out.I ordered a couple of badges for my T-Bird,$93.00 for the ones I got (I've been looking for them for about 4 years).They have some great "XR-8" badges for the fenders and trunk (or "boot" as they call it),and they run about $15.00 to $20.00 or so for a pair..Prices are very reasonable,and they are genuine ford parts.If you're trying to figure out how much in U.S. dollars,it's about .78 cents American to their dollar....so,$10.00 there will be about $7.80 to us.They have tons of V-8 badges and a lot more.let me know what you think.Hurry up,go look.You Cougar guys will love those badges.They have an awesome look.

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Reply #1 – September 12, 2006, 10:01:29 PM

I like them

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Reply #2 – September 12, 2006, 10:07:56 PM

And why the hell don't they have these in the states?

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Reply #3 – September 12, 2006, 10:20:58 PM

Quote from: 84 Fila;103714

And why the hell don't they have these in the states?

Because they would kick a Mustang's ass up one side of the street and down the other.....

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Reply #4 – September 12, 2006, 10:26:17 PM

Quote from: Chuck W;103716

Because they would kick a Mustang's ass up one side of the street and down the other.....

...Both on the street and in sales...

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Reply #5 – September 12, 2006, 10:29:24 PM

Quote from: 84 Fila;103714

And why the hell don't they have these in the states?

they do, or at leats GM tried it...its called the GTO or for u australians out there, the Holden Manaro

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Reply #6 – September 12, 2006, 11:28:32 PM

I think the actual answer to why they don't have them in the States is because of something to do with government regulated emissions controls. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

GM had to make a lot of minor changes to the Monaro before they brought it here as the GTO. One thing they had to change, for example, was the fuel tank. The Holden had saddle tanks, meaning there was one fuel tank on each side of the rear of the car. They were connected by fuel lines so there was actually only one tank to fill, but they did it that way to give the car more trunk space.

United States law does not allow a fuel tank to be side saddle like the Monaro's was so GM had to place the tank up over the rear axle in the GTO. The result: itty bitty trunk with large heavy metal plating between the fuel tank and the passenger compartment, which also eliminated the option of having fold-down rear seats.

That was one of many similar changes that had to be made. And you saw how that car sold. I think most everyone on this message board loves the Australian Ford Falcon. There has to be a reason that Ford doesn't bring it here and I bet it has to do with money. (ie. Too much money required to modify the car to meet US standards for safety and/or emissions)

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Reply #7 – September 12, 2006, 11:38:39 PM

I don't know about most of you guys, but I'd buy a GTO in a heartbeat. And so would most of the people who have one.....a used one. The fact is, the GTO new is just too expensive for the car you get. I personally know like 10 guys who within the past 6 months picked up a used GTO.....I'd trade my GTP in for one if possible, but there is still a 12,000 dollar gap between the two.

Now why doesn't Ford bring those here? The "cool" factor. A 4-door, 6 speed, 5.4l, 380 hp, rear drive car is just too cool for Ford to produce here. It would rip the Mustang a new one too. If it would ever come, it would be a 4-cyl or V6 with less than 200 hp, only automatic, a very dull appearance compared to the ones pictured so it wouldn't take away from the Mustang.

But if I ever goto Austrailia, I'll be sure to rent one and let everyone know what we should be driving as far as performance sedans are concerned.

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Reply #8 – September 13, 2006, 12:00:29 AM

Quote from: jkirchman;103741

I think the actual answer to why they don't have them in the States is because of something to do with government regulated emissions controls. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

GM had to make a lot of minor changes to the Monaro before they brought it here as the GTO. One thing they had to change, for example, was the fuel tank. The Holden had saddle tanks, meaning there was one fuel tank on each side of the rear of the car. They were connected by fuel lines so there was actually only one tank to fill, but they did it that way to give the car more trunk space.

United States law does not allow a fuel tank to be side saddle like the Monaro's was so GM had to place the tank up over the rear axle in the GTO. The result: itty bitty trunk with large heavy metal plating between the fuel tank and the passenger compartment, which also eliminated the option of having fold-down rear seats.

That was one of many similar changes that had to be made. And you saw how that car sold. I think most everyone on this message board loves the Australian Ford Falcon. There has to be a reason that Ford doesn't bring it here and I bet it has to do with money. (ie. Too much money required to modify the car to meet US standards for safety and/or emissions)

Well yeah Jim that's a fair part of it, I know the I6's are one of the bigger culprits when it comes to emissions....but they are my favorite... F6 Typhoon

Still even with the changes for safety and emissions, you know no matter what, a 4-door sedan would not be allowed to come to these ss wearing a blue oval and trump the Mustang...period...and it's a shame too.

Ford US needs to take a closer look at how FPV of OZ does things...

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Reply #9 – September 13, 2006, 12:08:56 AM

Quote from: jkirchman;103741

I think the actual answer to why they don't have them in the States is because of something to do with government regulated emissions controls. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

While you're right that it's difficult to re-engineer Aussie cars to meet US standards it is not difficult to engineer them from the get-go - in other words, make a car that meets the standards right off the bat. It has been done by GM with other "world" platforms (Epsilon, Kappa) and also by Ford (Volvo/Five Hundred, Six/Fusion, etc). Chrysler has proven that there is an appetite for affordable domestic-branded RWD performance sedans. The GTO failed because it was far too expensive and although it performed very well didn't look the part. You haven't seen the last of Aussie GM's - rumour has it that the next Grand Prix will be RWD and based on the next Monaro, which was engineereed to meet US standards from the start. GM didn't engineer that compliance in for no reason...

Unlike GM, who had no RWD platforms to work from, Ford doesn't really have to bring Aussie cars here. They already have several RWD platforms. A stretched Mustang could easily replace the Crown Vic. The old DEW98 could be tweaked and refined to be a very good basis for a 300-esque sedan. They could even take previous-generation Jag parts and make a RWD sedan (like Chrysler did - the 300 is based on the old E-class). Hell, they could even use FWD/AWD platforms and put some decent engines into the mix. There is no excuse for not having a V8 Five Hundred - the engine exists and is being used in Volvos as we speak. There is no reason to not have a performance version of the Fusion - the 265-horse 3.5 Duratec would be a good start, and would certainly make it more compelling against Accords and Camrys. Ford should bring back the SVT badge in a big way. Apply it to all models. (SRT works for Chrysler, SS works for Chevy, WRX works for Subaru, EVO works for Mitsu, etc). A 250-ish horse Focus, a 300-ish horse Fusion, a 350-horse AWD Five Hundred, a 500-horse Mustang (they've already got that) would make a nice SVT lineup. Toss an S197-based sedan into the mix with identical powertrains to the Mustang but with four doors and more conservative styling.

Trucks? Bring back the Lightning. Build the Adrenalin. How 'bout a Terminator-powered Explorer? And while we're about it, why not a Lightning-ized version of the Expedition? Give the Edge the same 300-horse treatment the Fusion should have. The Navigator should have Lightning power as the base engine.

Of course, Ford would also need to sell "mainstream" versions of its cars to appeal to the masses - a 3.5 Duratec V6 version of my imaginary S197 sedan, for instance, as well as a 300-horse V8 version to bring volume. Use this same idea across the board - decent performing volume vehicles basking in the halo of SVT versions. This is how they used to do it - far more six-cylinder Mustangs were produced than any Boss or Shelby. It worked.

And get the God-ed Mustang off its pedestal. Ford is still shooting itself in the foot by holding back the rest of its line to keep the Mustang at the top. They did it to us with our 150-horse 5.0's, they did it to the SHO guys with their underrated, undersupported and underappreciated cars, and they're doing it now. Hobbling a 800,000 unit per year vehicle to prop up a 100,000 unit/year vehicle is absurd.

Well. I guess I went terminally off topic with my little rant. Nice Aussie badges, though

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Reply #10 – September 13, 2006, 12:11:46 AM

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;103750

And get the God-ed Mustang off its pedestal. Ford is still shooting itself in the foot by holding back the rest of its line to keep the Mustang at the top. They did it to us with our 150-horse 5.0's, they did it to the SHO guys with their underrated, undersupported and underappreciated cars, and they're doing it now. Hobbling a 800,000 unit per year vehicle to prop up a 100,000 unit/year vehicle is absurd.

YES!

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Reply #11 – September 13, 2006, 06:54:41 AM

Ok so let me get this stright. Better sales then the " Pony Car ", would whip it's ass, family sized.... and they will not do it because they have to make some changes?? Seems like BS to me:nkhk:

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Reply #12 – September 13, 2006, 03:29:55 PM

Quote from: 84 Fila;103759

Ok so let me get this stright. Better sales then the " Pony Car ", would whip it's ass, family sized.... and they will not do it because they have to make some changes?? Seems like BS to me:nkhk:

Well, imagine a car just a bit bigger than a Taurus, with nearly 90 more hp than a Stang, traction control, and better suspension (stiock vs. stock) and the stang would see Falcon taillights every time...I hate to rag on Mustangs...but c'mon Ford...we're all sick of vanilla vehicles...give us something that we want to buy.
And those badges are the cat's ass...I think i might get a pair of the V8 badges for my fenders...

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Reply #13 – September 13, 2006, 03:48:34 PM

But why can't we get a big car with balls? It just seem so childish not to bring a car that would upset a mustang with a family of 4 in it. It already looks to me like the " Pony Cars " are coming back so why not these. It just doesn't make sence to do what would make much more money then what they have now.

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Reply #14 – September 13, 2006, 07:28:29 PM

Because the name "Mustang" has been jammed down our throats since 1964...yet the car that more or less helped originate the mustang fell by the way...except for Australia....
Down there, Falcons and Monaros go at it like stangs and camaros did here in the 80's-90's....
Personally, if I was wealthy, i'd just buy one and ship it here..
I hope after all this retro- styling dies off...the Mustang kinda resembles something like that. I've shown the pic of the orange one to about 7 people now, they've all said they want one.
Ford, where are you...?