are all brakes the same? November 29, 2006, 06:39:51 PM the auto parts store sells 3 differant (grades) of brakes.for normal use back and forth to car shows & some showing off :evilgrin: which grade do I pick? Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #1 – November 29, 2006, 06:46:15 PM Ceramic... less brake dust and lighter in colour. Plus they aren't so rough on your rotors as semi-metallics.Did I mention better stopping? :D Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #2 – November 29, 2006, 06:52:25 PM Quote from: Ether947;116164Ceramic... less brake dust and lighter in colour. Plus they aren't so rough on your rotors as semi-metallics.Did I mention better stopping? :DI should have said it for the black cat and will points be deducted at shows Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #3 – November 29, 2006, 08:08:43 PM Wait a minute...are you saying you're buying new rotors and pads for the GS?:looks out window:Hmm...hell hasn't frozen over yet and the Browns aren't in the Super Bowl. It must suck, getting only 21 years out of your ORIGINAL ones! For OEM appearance and quality I would recommend Raybestos rotors. They'll be about $50 each but they are as close to OEM as I've ever found. Far as pads, definitely semi-metallic (as per OEM) with a lifetime warranty--which you may or may not ever use. Brand-wise, I'd say pick a name you recognize.You would probably also be interested in new bearings to go with the new rotors, yes? I like Timken bearings because they are good, and also because they are made in Canton which helps our Ohio economy. I try to buy from Ohio mfrs. and vendors as much as possible. However, Perfect Circles are also just as good.Ric, you'll also have to (eventually) report back as to whether the stock outer bearings were metal or plastic. The OEM ones on my '86s were plastic. I don't know when the changeover took place. Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #4 – November 30, 2006, 01:12:20 AM Quote from: EricCoolCats;116185Wait a minute...are you saying you're buying new rotors and pads for the GS?:looks out window:Hmm...hell hasn't frozen over yet and the Browns aren't in the Super Bowl. It must suck, getting only 21 years out of your ORIGINAL ones! For OEM appearance and quality I would recommend Raybestos rotors. They'll be about $50 each but they are as close to OEM as I've ever found. Far as pads, definitely semi-metallic (as per OEM) with a lifetime warranty--which you may or may not ever use. Brand-wise, I'd say pick a name you recognize.You would probably also be interested in new bearings to go with the new rotors, yes? I like Timken bearings because they are good, and also because they are made in Canton which helps our Ohio economy. I try to buy from Ohio mfrs. and vendors as much as possible. However, Perfect Circles are also just as good.Ric, you'll also have to (eventually) report back as to whether the stock outer bearings were metal or plastic. The OEM ones on my '86s were plastic. I don't know when the changeover took place. what! he has to change out the factory parts and yes the factory bearings should have an off white plastic housing holding the rollers in place to the race.for one my meny years in the auto parts field.and two thats what my car had in the rotors and as for what brake pads to use in my opinion go with what would be stock.. which is semi metallic which is middle of the road sort of speek..Ceramic will be to hard of a compound thats why they don't make dust.and are made for racing and will make just as much dust on a race track when they get hot. from my experence with brake pads the Ceramic pads don't work well on the street since they never get really warm or hot like other pads.. and don't have the same stoping power untill they get to the proper tempature which is much hotter then semi metallics.back some time we tryed a set on my friends grand national and he could'nt get the car to stop right and so we pulled the pads off and put a set of cheapos "ronco" and at the time in the early 90's where like $12.99 and the car stoped on the dime..i have Raybestos pads in my car like $19.99 at pepboys..thats what i would go with unless you want the factory pads..i can't rememer the whole part number but it's something like E6ZZ-2001-aNick Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #5 – November 30, 2006, 06:49:21 AM Quote from: EricCoolCats;116185Hmm...hell hasn't frozen over yet and the Browns aren't in the Super Bowl. But they are tied with last years super bowl champs! Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #6 – November 30, 2006, 07:16:02 AM Quote from: Blown306Cougar;116229and as for what brake pads to use in my opinion go with what would be stock.. which is semi metallic which is middle of the road sort of speek..Ceramic will be to hard of a compound thats why they don't make dust.and are made for racing and will make just as much dust on a race track when they get hot. from my experence with brake pads the Ceramic pads don't work well on the street since they never get really warm or hot like other pads.. and don't have the same stoping power untill they get to the proper tempature which is much hotter then semi metallics. ...not so Quote[SIZE=+1]Ceramic Brake Lining Material[/SIZE] Although first introduced as far back as 1985 on some new vehicles, mass aftermarket applications for ceramic-based disc brake pads are just now becoming widely available. Approximately 33 percent of all new vehicles, domestic and foreign combined, now have ceramic-based disc brake pads. The newest generation of ceramic brake lining compounds contain no chopped steel fibers or steel wool as found in earlier semimetallic linings, but instead substitute ceramic compounds and copper fibers. These changes provide modern ceramic-based lining materials the capability of handling today's high brake temperatures with less heat fade, faster recovery time, and less wear on both the pads and rotors. Of even more value to brake repair facilities is the ability of ceramic lining compounds to significantly reduce annoying brake noise or squeal, which is the No. 1 consumer complaint relating to brake service. Ceramic compounds dampen noise and move brake pad vibrations to a frequency outside of our human hearing range, 20 Hz through 20,000 Hz. As with earlier disc brake pad designs, some ceramic pad applications may also incorporate other noise-reducing features such as chamfers, slots and insulator shims. One leading aftermarket manufacturer has gone as far as naming its line of ceramic brake pads "Quiet Stop." Another positive characteristic associated with ceramic brake lining materials is the absence of visible brake dust, a feature that any vehicle owner with stylish wheels will appreciate. All brake materials, ceramic included, will produce some brake dust. Earlier semimetallic and organic brake compounds left a brownish black dust on wheels. In comparison, ceramic compounds produce a light-colored dust that is much less noticeable and does not attach itself to wheels. Although an increase in product cost will more than likely be associated with ceramic-based brake linings, their benefits may be worthwhile for consumers. Based on their own durability tests, lining manufacturers say these compounds will outlast most other premium pad materials by a considerable margin. However, aftermarket brake pads with ceramic materials should only be used on those applications where the OEM specified a similar formula. http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov2002/mech.cfm But I know diddly about car show requirements... Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #7 – November 30, 2006, 03:06:37 PM QuoteBut they are tied with last years super bowl champs!LOL Sad but true...however...the Steelers have made it to the Super Bowl 6 times within my lifetime, and won 5 out of those 6.And the Browns?Still hangin' onto that dream. ;)[SIZE="1"](I'm just pickin' on Ric because I *think* he's a Browns fan).[/SIZE] Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #8 – November 30, 2006, 04:46:44 PM Quote from: EricCoolCats;116307[SIZE="1"](I'm just pickin' on Ric because I *think* he's a Browns fan).[/SIZE]1 -the rotors are still in good shape (but, I will check out those bearings for you)2 -I could give a rats a** about pro football, Sorry EricI guess I'll go with the middle of the road riveted padsthanks Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #9 – November 30, 2006, 06:24:30 PM How about picking up some Performance Friction brake pads, they looked like they were pretty close to stock last I remember. Quote Selected
are all brakes the same? Reply #10 – November 30, 2006, 07:12:18 PM I put some cheapo organic pads on my old Mustang when I swapped to 11" brakes on it, and they lasted me over 50K. Never had a problem with brake dust either. Quote Selected