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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
The hose is a BH38187.  Its made by Raybestos.  Oriellys said it shows to be for 78-86 Fords.  Said it didnt fit a specific vehicle according to their computers.  My car is an 87 Thunderbird Sport.  The hose isnt exactly the same as the stock hoses, but is the only thing we found that was compatible.  I had seen the Ebay listing that you posted last night.  It shows its for older cars then mine.  Wonder why my car has older style/model brake componants on it.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
My mechanic stumbled across a website that advertised making Ford hoses.  On their site they also had a list of what # hoses were compatible with what vehicles.  He looked up each hose # online and looked at the ends.  Ended up finding a hose that had a inward flare, but also had a small outward flare too.  Checked with the parts house today and they had 1 of those hoses in stock.  He looked at it and he and checked it for fit.  Tomorrow the other hose comes in and Sunday I get my car back.  Model# for the hose is BH38187.  It doesnt show in the parts house computer to fit any specific vehicle.  Has a generic listing of 78-86 Ford.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Talked to my mechanic today.  We decided to try the new hoses with the wrong flare and see if they would hold pressure, and how bad they do leak if they dont hold.  In the mean time I can get my car back in the yard for a while and can take the factory hoses and try to find someone to make replacements that match that way there is no confusion as to what I need. The only other option we can think of is to have someone re-machine the ends of the new hoses with the right flare.  Doubt I can find anyone locally that will do that either lol.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Quote from: daminc;403422
I dont understand how you say it can be identical, but diff on the end...... if that's what your saying... then it isn't identical to the one I posted.

so yours does not look identical to the one in the picture?

EDIT:
I just read your last post... they should know what they are ordering on the threaded part.... there is a  an inlet thread size listed in the specs

New hose = identical to that hose
Old hose= different flare on male end
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Quote from: Aerocoupe;403412
Okay, I don't understand.  In your post #37 you have the wrong inverted flare picture first and then the correct bubble flare picture second.  The second picture that daminc posted is a brake hose with a bubble flare end just like what you posted as the correct end.  Did you order a new hose and new caliper from the same parts store at the same time and try them?  If the soft line for the 87 Thunderbird Sport is incorrect then look at a soft line for an 85 Mustang  cylinder and see if that works.  The end that goes into the caliper should be identical for sure if not the whole soft hose.

Darren


Yes, the picture that Daminc posted is what Im looking for.  Problem is, nobody around here has that in the correct size, which is 1/2 20 to 1/2 20.  Yes, I ordered new hoses and calipers from the same supplier, and they dont match up.  Ive ordered 2 sets of hoses from different suppliers hoping it was a fluke, but they are all wrong.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Quote from: daminc;403406
so then your saying your hose isn't whats in the picture with the end on it if the end is wrong

Im saying the new hose I bought looks identical to that hose.  The factory hose on my car looks like that, but the flare is different on the male end.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Quote from: daminc;403329
I have never used an adaptor on the caliper itself.... I'm thinking someone's not doing their job right getting you your parts

just quickly looking at Rockauto for an 87 sport... these 2 should just connect together

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=521880&cc=1140231


does your hose look like this?
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=906866&cc=1140231


Yes that is what my new hoses look like.  The problem is that the hoses have the wrong flare on the male end where it threads into the calipers.  They thread in, but most likely wont seal good because of the wrong flare on them.  If its someone not doing their job right, its all 3 of the local parts houses, Autozone, Oriellys, and Advanced Auto.  Ive been to all 3 hunting parts and all show the same things.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Quote from: TOM Renzo;403327
NO NO NO those are the wrong adapters. The first one is a line conversion from inverted flair to inverted flair line side.

The second is ISO BUBBLR to inverted flair both of those adapters are for hard line

In the many many years i have been in this business i have never seen an adapter on a CALIPER. Sorry i may be miss informed but i have never seen one.

Best bet is to take the caliper and run a TAP in the hole to identify the threads. Whether metric or American. Then after you get the size you can find a line. But you should be able to get a MUSTANG line as if memory serves me the calipers are the same. Other than the Turbo Coupe that has bigger brakes and spindles. The photo above is a mustang type small caliper i THINK. They are the only ones that use that threaded end on the caliper side. Why not bring the original line to the part store and match it up. If it is actually a stock part. If not someone along the line changed something. I looked up front hoses for the COUGAR and they are available. Is that what the car IS???? Thanks

The photo above is a classic Mustang setup Small caliper from what i can see


I said the photos were just for reference.  They are just to show the difference between the 2 flares I am dealing with.  No local parts house has a replacement line that matches the male end on my stock line.  Everything has the wrong flare on the male end. They all have inverted flares, and it needs to be an outward/outverted/bubble, whichever you choose to call it.  I have even ordered new calipers to try to match the new hoses, and the new calipers are just like my stock ones.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
I dont have my car here, its 30 miles away at my mechanics.  The calipers are stock calipers for my car.  It should resemble what is in your picture, as that is the same style hose.  We ordered new calipers to try with the new hoses, and the new calipers are the same as the stock calipers.  I dont have the hoses here to take pictures, but here are what the wrong and right ends look like.
Wrong:    http://brakefittingsclicks.blogspot.com/2011/05/aas-brake-line-adapter-210-45-10pcs-f.html
Right:      http://ribetautoparts.com/metric-bubble-flare-iso---brass-brake-line-adapters---3-16-tube-female---12mm-x-1-0-male-thread-bubble-flare.aspx

Those are just pics I looked up for reference the other day.  Not the actual hose ends.  The problem is the flare is wrong on the new hoses.
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Suspension/Steering / 87 Sport front brake hose replacements, help please!
Quote from: TOM Renzo;403272
You can either change the nut on the hard line or use an ADAPTER, Your call. I normally cut the line RE-FLARE IT WITH THE CORRECT Inverted flare nut.


Ok, I guess I didnt make it clear before that Im having issues with the caliper end of the hose, not the hard line end of the hose.  The end that threads into the caliper on my new hose has the wrong flare, and Im looking for an adapter to fix that.