5.0 transplant

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Reply #60 – March 30, 2005, 10:09:14 AM

The going rate at all the mustang shops around here is $450 for a gauranteed complete engine, for $650, you could get one with all the accessories.

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Reply #61 – April 10, 2005, 12:49:52 AM

Got the engine and transmission. The donor vehicle was supposed to have been running a couple of weeks ago before wrecked. What is the minimum I should do to the engine/transmission before dropping it in??

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Reply #62 – April 10, 2005, 02:48:32 AM

rear main seal for one. if the oil pan leaks nows a good time to do that gasket too. if the lower intake leaks in the back (common on the 5.0) attack that. dont bother with the silicone ones. just goop the out of it, as specially in the corners. inspect the hoses as well look for leaks. if you have time maybe media-blast and paint any brackets or parts you might want to. other than that your probably good to go. anything else should be easy enough to do with it in the car. id go with new plugs, wires, cap and rotor.

obviously if you are going to install a cam, heads or any valvetrain work it will be better to do this with the engine out.

as far as the tranny goes i assume you picked up a t5. if it was all pulled together you might want to pull it appart and inspect the flywheel teeth, surface and clutch. its all going to have to come off to put in a new rear main seal anyway. deffinetly inspect the t5s input shaft where the throughout bearing slides and the bearing itself. id go get a timken one from a parts store. if the shaft has any groves in it order a steel one from summit. if the clutch looks good than i guess its okay to reuse it as long as you are using the same flywheel it was mounted to. when sepperating the flywheel and pressure plate make sure you mark it so it goes back on the same way. inspect the flywheel for cracks or burns. if you find any count on getting a new clutch and flywheel. me, id just get a new clutch and resurface the flywheel (as long as its good) to begin with. that eliminates a few reasons for ripping it all out later on.

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Reply #63 – June 20, 2005, 01:40:40 PM

I am looking at my fuel and motor mounts now. It looks like I will need to put in the entire fuel line from the 87 cougar according to what Tom said in an earlier post. I looked at it and I don't see anyway to hook up my existing fuel lines to the new stang engine.

As far as the motor mounts go the stang mounts look very similar to what is on my old 85 t-bird engine. They look nothing like the 87 cougar mounts. I want to put new mounts on as all the ones I have are broken. Do I look for new mustang mounts or 85 t-bird mounts? I can't tell just by looking at the 92 stang engine mounts and 85 t-bird engine mounts if they are different. Thanks, Jason.

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Reply #64 – June 20, 2005, 10:22:42 PM

i used an engine and dash harness from an 86 50so tbird to plug into the 85 chasis harness. the main problem i had was that the radio harness did not match.no matter how many diagrams i looked at,i just couldnt get the system to work correctly.still have no radio to this day.i do get to hear the sound of that sweet ho though. if i remember correctly,i also lost my rear window defroster too. didnt work to begin with,so what the hey!

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Reply #65 – June 20, 2005, 10:51:54 PM

i also reused my 85 tbird mounts.as far as the fuel lines are concerned,that will be a difficult thing to deal with.if i remember correctly,i used the 2 different sized metal lines that ran into thecfi throttle body to plug into the fuel lines that run into the engine compartment by the frame rail.i cut them in half and flared the ends.then i toof 2 of the chrome lines that hook into thesefi system and cut and flared them.thats how i attached mine. it worked for me.
as a side note,just where abouts in southern ind. are you? evansville/newburg area maybe.if so,i live across the bridges in henderson.if close enough,maybe i could give you a looksee. although im running a c4 now,i have already done the t5 swap once.(still got the pedals hanging.)i have also done the 50ho/massair swap as well.

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Reply #66 – June 21, 2005, 01:18:25 PM

I see what you are saying for the fuel lines. If I could do a good job of making those connections that might be the easiest thing to do. I have never used a flare tool on brake/fuel lines. I have always just bought the lengths I needed and used unions. I guess I could get a piece of tubing and practice a bunch before I do the fuel lines. I am not real excited about putting in all new fuel lines that's for sure.

I live on the east side of evansville, close to the Green River rd. and Morgan ave. intersection. I play basketball on Sat. mornings 7:00am-9:00am at Holy Name Church in Henderson. It's about a 15 min. drive to the church. If you had time I wouldn't mind some pointers from someone who has done this before.

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Reply #67 – June 23, 2005, 10:37:55 PM

What power booster/mater cylinder combo do you guys recommend for my 85 bird? I am planning on buying a remanufactured power booster from advance auto. I was thinking an 86 mustang power booster and go to the bone yard and get a master cylinder from an 84-86 crown vic (as sugested by Eric's tech section) and rebuild it myself and put it on the stang power booster. Is there a better combination that does not force me to run new brake lines?

I have put in the firewall clutch adjuster, and have upgraded all of my brakes to mark VII calipers and larger disks. I figure this to be a good time to upgrade the booster and master cylinder to help feed the larger brake system. Thanks for you help, Jason.

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Reply #68 – June 24, 2005, 02:38:53 AM

As far as motor mounts go, the 85 bird mounts are the same as a mustang mount. I seriously recommend going to your local Autozone/Advance auto store and buying a set of motor mounts for an 87-93 mustang 5.0 convertable. You'll know why once you compare them to a regular mustang mount.

Cheap and VERY effective.

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Reply #69 – June 24, 2005, 11:34:19 AM

you will definitly need the smaller mustang booster for the fire wall adjuster.sounds like you have the break thing down.does any body in here know if he has to readjust the power booster pushrod length?if not,the haynes repair manual for 1983 thru 1988 thunderbird and cougar has a power brake pushrod gauge template on page 238.that should keep the front brakes from locking up.just curious,but what spindles did you use?would you be interested in an 88tc rear end?i was at the u-pull-it on st joe ave this morning and it looks like you have been there.more than one mkvii with the front discs and calipers gone.did you see the 50 conv,or shall i say,what was left of it?

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Reply #70 – June 24, 2005, 07:50:27 PM

I did the brake upgrades about a year and a half ago. I really don't need any rear end since I put in an 8.8 rear from a mark VII although its not posi. trac. That gave me bigger brakes and 5 lug. There was an LSC rear at the Glissons on St Joe still together last time I was there but the wheels had a lug nut lock on them. I thought about seeing if it was posi. trac. and getting it, but I've had too much other stuff going on lately. For spindles I used some off of a mustang GT, I think it was an 88. I basically followed Eric's tech section and help from guys on here to get it done. The rotors and calipers came from the mark VII front and rear.

Thanks for the motor mount tip Joefriday.

I am going to try to make some solid headway tonight and tomorrow on this thing. Thanks guys. Jason.

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Reply #71 – June 24, 2005, 11:37:37 PM

I didn't see much rubber on those convertable GT motor mounts. lol. That will go well with my polyurethane bushings I've been putting in.

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Reply #72 – June 27, 2005, 09:20:29 PM

Well I made some solid progress this weekend. I got the last of the engine wiring put together, got the shift cable mounted, installed my pedals, and steering system. I am going to do a few more things then roll the car outside and bring in the engine and get it ready to install. Hopefully I will be able to get started on the stang engine this weekend. Feels good to get assembly under way.

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Reply #73 – June 27, 2005, 10:02:46 PM

Couple of pics of my progress.

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Reply #74 – June 28, 2005, 12:49:08 PM

Wow Jason that looks really good. That's going to be a fun car to drive when you're done. I love how clean the engine bay looks. Like a brand new car!