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Reply #15 –
Quote from: baXo
Rule one of a business sale, always say there's another buyer.
How many times have i heard that when buying a new car or house? I always tell the sellsperson "if they want it, sell it to them. I'll just take my business elsewhere" suddenly the deal falls threw.

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Reply #16 –
I found coolcats a couple years ago just by google.  Just checked google again for "88 Cougar" and coolcats.net is Number 1 hit !

So I wouldn't change a thing...


V6->V8HO 88 LS
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Reply #17 –
Quote from: baXo
Rule one of a business sale, always say there's another buyer.


Which is exactly what popped into my mind first. But, since his record expires in 2007, why would he lie about a buyer? He's still going to keep his business, just under a different name. Which means the legitimacy of a buyer seems more likely.

My thought was that the .com would point over to the .net. My e-mail address would be the same, and essentially nothing would change. It's just nice to have a .com point to a .net when possible. Anything associated with 'coolcats' as a domain name seems to be fairly hot right now. That adds to the urgency in hopping on this offer.

I waited 8 years for my convertible. I waited 7 years for an opportunity to get this .com domain. Fate...?

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Reply #18 –
It seems like you have your mind made up. You want the .com name so, if you can justify spending "a few grand" to get it then, go ahead and get it. It really would have no effect on us or, in my opinion, any future users of the site.

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Reply #19 –
My mind is not made up. Just presenting the facts.... .com, .org, .tv and .cc are all taken. .net is mine; .com is up for sale. Not trying to 'collect them all' but from a business (and logical) point of view it makes sense.

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Reply #20 –
If it makes sense to you, seriously, how about explaining that logic to us? Because we don't seem to share the feeling that it makes sense to spend a few grand on a ".com" when the ".net" already works just fine. Do you honestly expect to make that money back in some way by getting the second domain? Your second-to-last post before this one (in reply to BaXo) seems to be an attempt to explain this.. but other than "good idea" and "hot domain name", I don't really see how it translates into a good investment.

It sounds a little like the Underpants Gnomes from South Park.. :giggle:

Step 1: Underpants.
Step 3: PROFIT!
What's Step 2?
Step 3: PROFIT!

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Reply #21 –
First rule of business on the Internet: when getting a unique domain name, get as many similar names as you can. In other words, if you get a .com name, you should get the .net, .org, etc. names with that (if they're available). That way you have a backup if needed, and you have plenty of room to play if you receive an offer for one of the names. Some businesses use the .com for their site and .net for their e-mail system. And doing this will thwart 'cyber-squatters' from snagging the name, then making you an outrageous offer/extortion for it.

And that is NOT what's happening here. The .com is a legitimate business with an established clientele. They do use their site for business purposes. Therefore this is not an extortion. Chances are the other offer was for a similar price and he's just extending a professional courtesy to me.

Anyone that knows anything about the Internet also knows that a .com name means more than anything else. Even though technically it's incorrect for most sites (.com is short for the computer domain, .net is for Internet), it's the one that sticks out in everyone's mind. Over the years, lots of people have told me they tried to find my site at .com first, only to do a search and eventually find the .net domain. That's a step I could eliminate by having the .com in my arsenal. Everyone and their brother knows a .com address...that cannot be argued.

The site is established enought that, yes, it could hold its own indefinitely as a .net. And since .net is always the underdog, I enjoy that status. But does Cool Cats deserve .com status after 7 years? Frick yeah it does!

Money is irrelevant to me. I spend money, I make money. That's why I go to work. Life is a big checking account: money in, money out. Long as there's a flow you're alright. Besides, the site was never conceived to line my pockets. It's an enthusiast site that will always remain free of charge to anyone in the world. I'm not worried about the money involved...I AM worried about the time factor.

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Reply #22 –
You know what, heh you only live once. If money's not an issue, get it. Sounds like that's what you're waiting to hear anyway ;).. it would be cool to have both .com and .net

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats
First rule of business on the Internet: when getting a unique domain name, get as many similar names as you can. In other words, if you get a .com name, you should get the .net, .org, etc. names with that (if they're available). That way you have a backup if needed, and you have plenty of room to play if you receive an offer for one of the names. Some businesses use the .com for their site and .net for their e-mail system. And doing this will thwart 'cyber-squatters' from snagging the name, then making you an outrageous offer/extortion for it.


But are you doing the sort of business that justifies spending thousands on a redundant domain name? How long before you think you can make it back? Days? Weeks? Months? Years?

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And that is NOT what's happening here. The .com is a legitimate business with an established clientele. They do use their site for business purposes. Therefore this is not an extortion. Chances are the other offer was for a similar price and he's just extending a professional courtesy to me.

Anyone that knows anything about the Internet also knows that a .com name means more than anything else. Even though technically it's incorrect for most sites (.com is short for the computer domain, .net is for Internet), it's the one that sticks out in everyone's mind. Over the years, lots of people have told me they tried to find my site at .com first, only to do a search and eventually find the .net domain. That's a step I could eliminate by having the .com in my arsenal. Everyone and their brother knows a .com address...that cannot be argued.


That might've held more truth to it a few years ago, but now there's ".tv", ".biz", and a bunch of other garbage. A ".com" isn't as important now as it was years ago.

And yes, even I've typed in the .com by mistake at least once for this site. But erasing .com and putting in .net fixed that. (I don't type in the name of the site very often.. I have my own little start page for my browser on my hard drive, and I just edit links into it for sites I frequent)

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The site is established enought that, yes, it could hold its own indefinitely as a .net. And since .net is always the underdog, I enjoy that status. But does Cool Cats deserve .com status after 7 years? Frick yeah it does!

Money is irrelevant to me. I spend money, I make money. That's why I go to work. Life is a big checking account: money in, money out. Long as there's a flow you're alright. Besides, the site was never conceived to line my pockets. It's an enthusiast site that will always remain free of charge to anyone in the world. I'm not worried about the money involved...I AM worried about the time factor.


Perhaps you put far more value behind the .com status than we do? If that's the case, you might as well go ahead and buy it for your own sake. Otherwise, it doesn't seem to make much sense. Coolcats is Coolcats, whether it's .net, .com, .biz, .tv, .to, .ca, (heh) whatever.

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Reply #24 –
Wait, I thought .com stood for "commercial"? It was a question on that game show "Greed" (if anyone remembers) - it would be funny if they got it wrong  :screwy: . The only reason I remember it was because I got it wrong (my answer was "company"). I don't know if that affects the decision, but anyhooo....

I'd say do it. The way CJ is going, a percentage of the profits would more than pay for the domain name in a few years, and I don't think anyone would object to having some of those funds used for this project.
1984 Cougar Convertible
1988 Cougar XR-7

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Reply #25 –
On second thought, let's do: "Coolcats.edu"

 :giggle:  :brick:  Okkkk, back to work for me.
1984 Cougar Convertible
1988 Cougar XR-7

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Reply #26 –
You all have to admit, though... .com is the king of all domain suffixes.  Look at the site we're posting on right now.  Using that .com would sort of double the base for enthusiasts.  It'd sort of make coolcats into 2 sites in 1 without any real duplication. 

Here's a PRIME example.  Go to your address bar and type http://www.foofle.com  Where's it go?  How many times have you swapped letters in when typing addresses?  I rest my case.  Someone could hear about coolcats from word of mouth, not neccessarily remember the extension, and then never find the site.  This .com thing DOUBLE'S the chance of getting the people to coolcats (and eventually over to here!).  I rest my case.

Go for it.

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: 4thqtr
The way CJ is going, a percentage of the profits would more than pay for the domain name in a few years, and I don't think anyone would object to having some of those funds used for this project.



No no no....CJ is separate because it's for charity. Those funds will never be used for my site. It's only for the show. Good thought though. ;)

Quote from: Bird351
But are you doing the sort of business that justifies spending thousands on a redundant domain name? How long before you think you can make it back? Days? Weeks? Months? Years?


Again, it's not about the money. I could care less if that money ever finds its way back into my pocket via the site. Hell, if I want that much money, I'll sell two of my cars (which I'm going to do in the spring anyway). Bonus for me.

I'm looking beyond the dollar sign to the principle of the thing.

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Reply #28 –
Well I gotta admit, the principle of it does make sense. So if you are looking to buy a christmas present for yourself, i guess for the man who has it all (Cougar wise), can't get better then this.

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Reply #29 –
if money isn't an issue i say go for it. i plan on racking up all the domain names i can for my website. of course it won't matter to the ppl who are already here because they know about the .net instead of .com. i remember forgetting (a long time back) about the .net and keep typing in .com and figured the site was changed or moved. somehow i stumbled across it some time later and was quite relieved. bookmarked it asap!!! heck... who knows what will be on the next stie there, lol. one can only imagine. ^_^

plus seven years waiting for anything is gotta be more sentimental than monetary.
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