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Sweet Sixteen

Reply #30 –
I've been thinking about coming to Cat Jam for a while now...My brother Jason went 2 years ago I think (he has an '87 XR-7 with a 5.0 HO, T-5...it was the Maroon one in the old banner) so we'll probably make the trip together this year.  I don't just like T-Birds, I love Foxes in general.

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #31 –
i would no put a t5 behind a 351...t5's handle 330ft lbs of torque the 302 HO's put down 300 so you might wanna take the time and put in a decent trans while ur doing the motor or you will have to after u break the t5 lol.

very nice looking car and good luck.

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #32 –
that wing looks really nice.

happy b-day.

I would maybe lower it an inch, she looks like she is standing really tall with those 17s

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #33 –
nice bird. do the 351 swap. i did it well worth it. i like the rims. i will go with the same.have fun pulling out the dash? i hade to do that to my old bird, big job! this is my first time here but keep an eye out for mine. i think you will like it. bye for now

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #34 –
I was thinking about lowering it a little bit, but I think I'll wait to see how the 351 brings it down.  Ha yea the dash was *interesting...ugh the most wires I've ever seen in my life.  It was well worth it, though.

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #35 –
nice car

im 16, turning 17 on april 13th, im still driving my first car, a 93 grand prix SE with 220XXX miles, beat to hell and still takes more... best car ever for a first timer such as myself...

but i also have an 88 mercury cougar XR7 that im working on fixing up, but not nearly done yet, hopeing to drive her this spring tho...

Just wanted to sorta say that therse someone else sorta around your age on here...

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #36 –
Rock on, bro:headbang:

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #37 –
RUN FOR THE HILLS OLD TIMERS!!! the youngin's are invading... they are taking our youth from us.. that is how they stay so engergized!!!

(oh wait.. i'm not really that old yet.. so.. um.. maybe i like stand towards the bottom of the hill?)

heheh

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #38 –
Why not keep it efi.  A carb motor in '87-88 t/c's just looks wrong and like a back yard redneck swap IMO.

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #39 –
+1
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
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Sweet Sixteen

Reply #40 –
yeah bro im in the same boat as you...... Ill be 16 december 23....

nice car man.... i wish i had the money to make mine that nice right now im trying to keep it as nice as it is......lol which is becoming increasingly harder by every little thing i do....

keep up the good work man

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #41 –
Quote from: stuntmannick
Why not keep it efi.  A carb motor in '87-88 t/c's just looks wrong and like a back yard redneck swap IMO.

I dunno about him, but I can tell you why I'll be going with a carb in my '88 when I do the 351 swap (after I get the roller 351 from my brother when he finally junks his van):

Regardless of the induction I'd have to get the fox-swap stuff (Headers, oil pan). Also regardless of induction I'd need to rebuild the bottom end (the 351 has got over 300,000 miles on it). An overbore, turned crank, and some 10:1 forged slugs would be in order.

To stick with EFI I'd require a 351-specific lower intake, aftermarket upper, at least 24lb injectors, probably a 65MM throttle body, mass air computer, larger MAF calibrated for the 24lb injectors, 190lph fuel pump, etc. I'd  be into the engine for thousands and still be stuck with stock E7 heads, cam, etc.

Instead I could simply buy a nice Performer dual plane intake, 650-700CFM carb, agressive but streetable cam, and a set of Trick Flow heads (which would save me a few bucks from not having to rebuild the stock E7's) and still spend less than buying all that EFI stuff. The Performer intake and carb would more likely fit under my TC hood than an EFI setup would. And probably make more power, too. And it would certainly weigh less - that big wad of EFI wiring, the emissions hardware (smog pump & plumbing) and those big intakes probably weigh a hundred pounds, plus I'd shed about 70 pounds with the TFS heads. Sure, I'd sacrifice some cold weather drivability, but the car isn't driven in winter so that's not an issue. And emissions testing isn't a problem, so I see no reason to keep EFI.

I would bet a 351 with performer intake, Twisted Wedge heads, a 650-700CFM carb, agressive but streetable cam, 10:1 compression forged pistons, 1-5/8 shorties, and a 2.5" off road H-pipe and dual exhaust backed by a T5 and a 3.55 8.8" TC rear would easily propel my T-Bird into the 12's on pump gas. I know a T5 would be on thin ice behind a built 351, but since I don't drag race and would never use slicks I think it would last long enough to save up for a stronger tranny, and if I blew it up it would give me the excuse for a T56 :D.

And I can guarantee that after cleaning up the engine compartment and losing all the emissions plumbing and EFI wiring it would look very clean, and certainly much less "back yard redneck" than most stock Fox cars. I am very, very fussy about wiring and plumbing.

About the only drawback I can see is that my tripminder would no longer work, and even then if I wanted to find a "fuel flow sensor" from an earlier carbureted Ford I'm sure I could make that work too.
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Sweet Sixteen

Reply #42 –
Yeah, Im 17 rolling on 18. I didnt buy mine, but it sucks how i got it oddly enough. My Uncle was killed defending my car. When I turned 16 my Mom gave it to me. I wish I woulda known in advance, being moneyless and now having trouble with money to bring it back to life after 14 years of sitting. NICE car, keep up the good work, just wish I had the notion to save and build it like it should be.
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Sweet Sixteen

Reply #43 –
Quote from: Thunder Chicken
And I can guarantee that after cleaning up the engine compartment and losing all the emissions plumbing and EFI wiring it would look very clean, and certainly much less "back yard redneck" than most stock Fox cars.QUOTE]

^Agreed^.  It will look way cleaner, plus I already have a 4-bbl intake manifold.

Sweet Sixteen

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Thunder Chicken
And I can guarantee that after cleaning up the engine compartment and losing all the emissions plumbing and EFI wiring it would look very clean, and certainly much less "back yard redneck" than most stock Fox cars.


^Agreed.^  It will look way cleaner, plus I already have a 4-bbl intake manifold.