GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

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GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #45 – December 10, 2005, 01:58:44 PM

they deffinetly drive great, handle well and have a nice ride. its a great car. the cars are awesom looking on the outside.but the interior ruins the car for me. stock, i cant say imo that they are better looking beacuse they are so much different looking compared too the 03 style mustangs. with a body kit they look amazing.

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You lost me here.....I have no idea what you mean....

for those that dont know...
the sn95 mustangs dont have a full "frame" door. like say the turbo coupe. neither do the 05s. the glass is just floating and just sits next too the car when the windows are up. they are noisy and at higher speeds can kind of lift away from the car. ive always hated that about then. they sound rattly when you close them. the 05 fixed this problem, when the window is up and the door is closed the window sits in a channel by the roofline. when you pull the handle the window automatically drops something like a quarter of an inch out of that channel allowing you too open the door. its much less noisy and rattly. when you close the door the window goes up a little too lock itself inside that track so the glass doesnt "float".

i was just saying its going to suck when that feature fails with the door closed and the glass is locked in the up position inside that channel.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #46 – December 10, 2005, 02:05:55 PM

Ahh OK I didn't know what you were taling about, I got it now

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when you pull the handle the window automatically drops something like a quarter of an inch out of that channel allowing you too open the door. its much less noisy and rattly. when you close the door the window goes up a little too lock itself inside that track so the glass doesnt "float".

From firsthand experience this does work nicely. I am concerned with what will happen when it one day ceases to work for me and A) The window is slightly open or B) I really screw up the channel.....

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #47 – December 10, 2005, 02:31:12 PM

Quote from: shame302

. . . ive never even realy been elbow deep into a 5.0 short block for that matter. ive done what research i felt i needed too do and im confident in what i feel about them. its just the direction i choose.

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your research has done you well. Again, my stance is based on my experience. When I had my 1996 cougar I priced out many a hi-po SOHC build up with machiners that were reputable. I also did so with my 98 LSC and got nowhere basically when it came to a moderate buildup (that is actually one of the factors that lead me to selling that car). I actually do miss having a 4.6. But that 290hp just wasn't enough to satify my thirst for power, and I didn't want to risk possibly destroying the original engine of such a great car.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #48 – December 10, 2005, 02:45:30 PM

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Ahh OK I didn't know what you were taling about, I got it now

From firsthand experience this does work nicely. I am concerned with what will happen when it one day ceases to work for me and A) The window is slightly open or B) I really screw up the channel.....

Or C) the window is frozen shut. Windows freeze all the time, so what's gonna happen when one freezes shut with this system? Is the door not gonna open?

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #49 – December 10, 2005, 03:46:47 PM

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Or C) the window is frozen shut. Windows freeze all the time

With others....yes with mine no....Garage Queen!:D

It is a valid point though. I'm curious to hear about what happens. I don't want to experience it myself.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #50 – December 10, 2005, 10:29:48 PM

So, how 'bout that Camaro?:rolleyes:

Could someone make a 4.6 Mod reliability thread please?

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #51 – December 10, 2005, 11:04:23 PM

Sorry for the Hijack.....Like I said before kinda cool rendition if it is indeed the final look.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #52 – December 10, 2005, 11:52:01 PM

im done talkin about it...sorry bout the hijack....chevy stuff was getting boring......lol, jk

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #53 – December 13, 2005, 01:56:27 AM

Shows you how much intrest is in the Maro. Chevy boards are talking more about the Challenger. I think GM has already lost...

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #54 – December 13, 2005, 10:15:30 AM

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Shows you how much intrest is in the Maro. Chevy boards are talking more about the Challenger. I think GM has already lost...

What Chevy boards are you on?

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #55 – December 13, 2005, 08:38:59 PM

ls1tech and ls1gto. ALL the GM sites (CamaroZ28, ls1tech, etc) had to take down the pics (I think yours are the only ones left on the internet). All the talk broke down into a bunch of whining over the IRS and how the kid's drawings from Popular Hot Rodding looked 1000 times better and why GM are jerks for making them take the pictures off. Also Scott Settlmire (sic) had told the Editor's of HMM and Hot Rod that the new car would not be retro. It would have styling "cues" from all the previous gens. The pics basically show a Camaro version of the Stang. Far more people are talking about Dodge releasing pics of it's 425 HP Challenger and the production Shelby. Basically, nobody is going to get excited until the Jan NAIAS when the real deal is displayed, and not the clay car. It's basically a non-topic already.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #56 – December 13, 2005, 10:32:04 PM

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ls1tech and ls1gto. ALL the GM sites (CamaroZ28, ls1tech, etc) had to take down the pics (I think yours are the only ones left on the internet). All the talk broke down into a bunch of whining over the IRS and how the kid's drawings from Popular Hot Rodding looked 1000 times better and why GM are jerks for making them take the pictures off. Also Scott Settlmire (sic) had told the Editor's of HMM and Hot Rod that the new car would not be retro. It would have styling "cues" from all the previous gens. The pics basically show a Camaro version of the Stang. Far more people are talking about Dodge releasing pics of it's 425 HP Challenger and the production Shelby. Basically, nobody is going to get excited until the Jan NAIAS when the real deal is displayed, and not the clay car. It's basically a non-topic already.

The pics are open season now. GM has dropped all attempts at keeping them hidden, since everyone and their dog has seen them now.

GMI and a GM truck board I'm on are still talking this into the ground.

Anyway, the difference between the Camaro and the others is how retro they are willing to go. Ford went extremelly retro, pretty much making a '67 with modern fit and proportions. Dodge made an all out replica. Too retro, in my opinion. I think this will actually lower the value of classic Challengers. Why spend the large on a car that probably needs restoration, when you could have the same car, just with a perfect body, better build, and modern powertrain. GM went modern with some retro cues. I wouldn't call this as much of a retro car as the other two.

But I agree, this model is still in the design phase, so we could see an entirely different car come Detroit.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #57 – December 14, 2005, 01:35:36 AM

Actually, check out ls1tech (obviously the originator of the pics) and z28camaro, etc. and you'll see the pics have ALL been pulled OFF. GM is VERY serious about trying to minimize the exposure of them, especially on the main Camaro boards. (I kinda used to own one, so I hang out there) It's more retro than the Mustang, the car basically looks like a 68 with a 69 grill and 70 taillights. They actually like the Challenger idea better (if you're going to go retro, just give us the old car!). The Camaro has ALWAYS been a forward car though so ALOT of guys are against any retro at all. They'd rather see a C6 Vette-like re-do of the 2002 Camaro. Of course, a few mags are still swearing GM isn't going to make it. Rumor mill is the next gen GTO will have a Chevy variant called Chevelle. Apparntly there is STILL some dispute with the Canucks and the St. Loraine and the name, IIRC. Anyways, since GM put the ka-bosh on the pics, it's turned into a guess-fest as to the NAIAS car will look like.

http://www.camaroz28.com/

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410501

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419962

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #58 – December 14, 2005, 10:01:46 AM

Quote from: Aerobird Motorsports

Actually, check out ls1tech (obviously the originator of the pics) and z28camaro, etc. and you'll see the pics have ALL been pulled OFF. GM is VERY serious about trying to minimize the exposure of them, especially on the main Camaro boards. (I kinda used to own one, so I hang out there) It's more retro than the Mustang, the car basically looks like a 68 with a 69 grill and 70 taillights. They actually like the Challenger idea better (if you're going to go retro, just give us the old car!). The Camaro has ALWAYS been a forward car though so ALOT of guys are against any retro at all. They'd rather see a C6 Vette-like re-do of the 2002 Camaro. Of course, a few mags are still swearing GM isn't going to make it. Rumor mill is the next gen GTO will have a Chevy variant called Chevelle. Apparntly there is STILL some dispute with the Canucks and the St. Loraine and the name, IIRC. Anyways, since GM put the ka-bosh on the pics, it's turned into a guess-fest as to the NAIAS car will look like.

http://www.camaroz28.com/

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410501

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419962

This is what I was told. "The ban's been lifted by GM..... well, not lifted, but they're saying that their main priority is no longer fighting the pictures themselves, but focusing more on who leaked them."

Anyway, that's not important. The St. Loraine issue is already gone, since the plant was flattened. You can't build a car in a dirt lot. The Chevelle rumor came from Lutz's blog, about a half a year ago. The majority of auto mags (reputable ones anyway) are expecting to see the Camaro in a month. I'm with them.

Honestly, I don't care if it ends up looking retro or evolutionary. As long as it happens, and with the chassis shown here. IRS and a field of engines to chose from. I'm guessing 3.6L (LaCrosse/Alure DOHC VVT) base/RS, LS4 Z28, and LS2 SS. Even if it's a Chevelle, I'll just be glad to see a Chevy for our demographic.

GM leaks Camaro concept sketches

Reply #59 – December 14, 2005, 10:11:40 AM

It looks like the the CTS-V's rear suspesion, which will handle the power no problem. As long as they make a LSx motor and a manual trans, the "high end" one will sell. They really need to get the base model spot-on though, I hope they use that LaCrosse V6. GM needs to keep the price competitve with the Stang as well. I can't wait for the NAIAS. The Shelby production GT500, the 07 Challenger, and the 08 Camaro concept will all be there. There's also rumour of a VW Corrado Turbo and Toyata Supra Turbo to compete with the Nissan GTR.