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Reply #15 – December 06, 2013, 04:27:36 PM

So engine choices are a turbo 2.3 I4, 3.7 V6, and a 5.0 V8... the more things change the more they stay the same, huh?

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Reply #16 – December 06, 2013, 10:06:36 PM

I kinda like it but I have to wait till I see it in person to make a final decision. The front fender to bumper/light joint looks a bit too round to me in certain photos. Almost Taurus like.

I'm going to miss Grabber Blue and Gotta Have It Green as color choices. At least I've got a Grabber Blue '12 to look at.

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Reply #17 – December 06, 2013, 10:31:47 PM

I think its a stunning car, but not a Mustang. Too refined and Euro in my opinion.

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Reply #18 – December 06, 2013, 11:19:40 PM

Quote from: MY83T;425325

I think its a stunning car, but not a Mustang. Too refined and Euro in my opinion.

I know the new one doesn't scream MUSTANG! but the Fox-body Mustang really doesn't look like a Mustang either. I still think they look good, especially the 87-93 5.0 LX notch.

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Reply #19 – December 06, 2013, 11:24:15 PM

Quote from: 50tbrd88;425314

Makes me sad to think how quickly my 4.6 3V has turned into a dinosaur. Now the V6's and I-4's have more HP in stock form! I bet the '15 w/2.3 EB would give my intake/tune/exhaust 4.6 a run for its money and blow it away on MPG's...

Yeah the newest 4.6 3V is only three years old (2010) and it's far outclassed. It would have been nice if the '05's came out with the 5.0 Coyote. From experience I can say that the 3.7 in my Mustang is pretty much just as quick as a stock 4.6 3V in an '05-'09 Mustang. I have out run a 07 GT from a 40mph roll in my Thunderbird.

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Reply #20 – December 07, 2013, 04:59:45 PM

I don't like it. But my tastes are still stuck in the 80s.

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Reply #21 – December 07, 2013, 10:27:02 PM

Quote from: thunderjet302;425324

I kinda like it but I have to wait till I see it in person to make a final decision. The front fender to bumper/light joint looks a bit too round to me in certain photos. Almost Taurus like.

I'm going to miss Grabber Blue and Gotta Have It Green as color choices. At least I've got a Grabber Blue '12 to look at.

If I do end up with a '14 it will be Grabber Blue. Love that colour

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Reply #22 – December 07, 2013, 10:38:28 PM

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;425353

If I do end up with a '14 it will be Grabber Blue. Love that colour

Unfortunately you can't get a new 2014 in Grabber Blue. When you go to the build section of the Ford website Grabber Blue is no longer a color option. You might have to buy a lightly used 2013 or 2012 to get that color.

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Reply #23 – December 08, 2013, 12:45:33 AM

Quote from: EricCoolCats;425301

Very Asian. Not liking it. Just like the new 'Vette, the mechanicals are awe-inspiring but the body is s#!t. It's going to move a lot of '14's off the lot...

They're going to succeed with their goal...globally marketing the thing. Profit is profit. Unfortunately, at the expense of tradition. I keep wondering what modern styling would look like if it weren't for the front-end-has-to-somehow-not-hurt-stupid-pedestrians rule and the taller-door-panel rule (which I keep forgetting is an E.U. thing, not U.S. Fed.)

And could everyone please stop copying the Aston Martin Vanquish quarter window!!????? Ughhhhhhhh

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Reply #24 – December 09, 2013, 08:52:48 AM

I'm not happy with the new look, but I'm sure it will sell. Anyway, here is some official press release info from Ford. This is a form letter for dealers to use.:

Ford Mustang Marks 50 Years with All-New Sleek Design, Innovative Technologies and World-Class Performance

•   All-new sophisticated design clearly inspired by 50 years of Mustang heritage evolved to attract wider array of customers and expand global market availability
•   Mustang now available with three engines offering a broader power of choice – a more powerful 5.0-liter V8, a 3.7-liter V6 and an all-new fuel-efficient 2.3-liter EcoBoost® engine
•   Mustang sets new performance and dynamics benchmarks for the brand with world-class handling, more precise steering control and enhanced ride comfort

[Insert CITY, State, Date] The next chapter in the life of the iconic pony car begins today as the all-new Ford Mustang – loaded with innovative technologies and delivering world-class levels of performance – is simultaneously revealed around the globe in six cities on four continents.

“Ford Mustang inspires passion like no other car,” said Raj Nair, Ford group vice president, global product development. “The visceral look, sound and performance of Mustang resonates with people, even if they’ve never driven one. Mustang is definitely more than just a car – it is the heart and soul of Ford.”

Mustang’s impact goes well beyond the 9 million-plus cars sold in its 50 years of continuous production. It has made thousands of appearances in film, television, music and video games, and is the world’s most-liked vehicle on Facebook. For the first time ever, Ford will bring Mustang to customers in key parts of Europe and Asia.

“We crafted this car with the goal of creating a contemporary interpretation of Mustang – an American automotive icon that symbolizes optimism and freedom for millions of people around the world,” said Jim Farley, executive vice president of Ford global marketing, sales and service and Lincoln.

All-new shape, yet unmistakably Mustang
The clean-sheet design of both Mustang fastback and convertible evokes the essential character of the brand, retaining key design elements – including the long sculpted hood and short rear deck – with contemporary execution.

“You only get one chance to make a first impression, and when you see this car you immediately see a Mustang strong and true,” said Moray Callum, Ford executive director, design, The Americas.

Several key design features define the all-new Mustang, including:
•   A lower, wider stance with a reduction in roof height, and wider rear fenders and track
•   The return of Mustang fastback with a sleeker profile enabled by more steeply sloped windshield and rear glass
•   Three-dimensional, tri-bar taillamps with sequential turn signals
•   Contemporary execution of the signature shark-bite front fascia and trapezoidal grille

Mustang convertible drivers will appreciate the standard multilayer insulated cloth top that gives the car a more upscale appearance and a quieter cabin. The new top lowers twice as fast as before, and has a sleeker profile when folded for open-air motoring.

The information and controls an active driver needs are all readily accessible in the aviation-inspired pen 15pit, which is executed with the highest degree of craftsmanship ever found in a Mustang. Large, clear instrumentation puts vehicle information right in front of the driver in the roomier cabin, while improved ergonomics and tactile switches and s provide better control. The added width and a new rear suspension contribute to improved shoulder and hip room for passengers, and a more usefully shaped trunk can accommodate two golf bags.

The Mustang experience
The way Mustang looks, drives and sounds is key to the visceral experience that makes drivers just want to get in and hit the road. With more options to choose from, there is a Mustang to fit any lifestyle. The upgraded V6 and V8 are joined by an all-new 2.3-liter EcoBoost® engine that brings state-of-the-art technology to Mustang.

Mustang GT continues with the latest edition of the throaty 5.0-liter V8, now featuring an upgraded valvetrain and cylinder heads that yield more than 420 horsepower and 390 lb.-ft. of torque. A new intake manifold improves low-speed breathing for better fuel economy, idle stability and emissions.

“This EcoBoost engine delivers where a Mustang driver expects it to, with a broad, flat torque curve that pours out when you stand on it for easy passing or hustling down a twisty road,” said Dave Pericak, Ford Mustang chief engineer.

The Mustang EcoBoost engine uses direct injection, variable cam timing and turbocharging to deliver plenty of usable performance and projected segment-leading fuel efficiency. A unique intake manifold and turbocharger housing enable it to deliver the performance Mustang drivers expect with output projected at more than 305 horsepower and 300 lb.-ft. of torque.

With at least 300 horsepower and 270 lb.-ft. of torque on tap from the standard 3.7-liter V6, even the most accessible Mustang delivers the performance customers expect.

Drivers will appreciate smoother shifts from the updated manual gearbox, while a reworked automatic transmission features new steering wheel-mounted shift paddles for drivers who want the choice between convenience and control.

Most nimble pony ever
When life throws drivers a curve, the all-new Mustang sets new handling benchmarks for the brand, delivering world-class dynamics and ride quality.

“We already set a very high standard for Mustang’s dynamics with Boss 302, and our goal was to go above and beyond that with this new car,” said Pericak.

Mustang features all-new front and rear suspension systems. At the front, a new perimeter subframe helps to stiffen the structure while reducing mass, providing a better foundation for more predictable wheel control that benefits handling, steering and ride.

The new double-ball-joint front MacPherson strut system also enables the use of larger, more powerful brakes. This is expected to be the best stopping Mustang yet, with three available brake packages.

At the rear is an all-new integral-link independent rear suspension. The geometry, springs, dampers and bushings all have been specifically modified and tuned for this high-performance application. New aluminum rear knuckles help reduce unsprung mass for improved ride and handling.

Smarter than your average pony
The all-new Mustang features a significant amount of innovative technologies providing drivers with enhanced information, control and connectivity when they want it. From Intelligent Access with push-button start to SYNC® and MyKey® in every Mustang built, plus available Track Apps, MyColor gauges and new Shaker Pro audio system, drivers will be able to customize their time behind the wheel.

The feeling of freedom and confidence Mustang instills in its drivers is amplified when they can take control of how the car behaves. On a twisty back road or a weekend track day, the driver can tap the toggle switches on the console to quickly adjust steering effort, engine response, and transmission and electronic stability control settings using the available Selectable Drive Modes to create the perfect Mustang at any time.

The advanced new Ford-developed stability control system is tuned to maximize Mustang’s dynamic capabilities. When the time comes to turn up the wick at the track, Mustang GT includes standard launch control that enables drivers to achieve smooth, consistent starts every time.

When it’s time to back off and relax for the drive home, available advanced driver-assist features including Blind Spot Information System with cross-traffic alert and adaptive cruise control can help ease the load, while SYNC AppLink™ lets drivers control their smartphone apps to listen to their favorite form of entertainment.

50 years of Mustang
April 17, 2014, marks the 50th anniversary of the introduction of the original Ford Mustang and each 2015 model celebrates the milestone with a badge on the instrument panel that includes the galloping pony logo and the words “Mustang – Since 1964.” Mustang will continue to be built in the United States at Flat Rock Assembly Plant.

“From day one, we knew if we were going to build a new Mustang, we had to do it right,” said Pericak. “We built a new Mustang from the ground up that is quicker, better-looking, more refined and more efficient, without losing any of the raw appeal that people have associated with Mustang for half a century.”

# # #
About Ford Motor Company
Ford Motor Company, a global automotive industry leader based in Dearborn, Mich., manufactures or distributes automobiles across six continents. With about 180,000 employees and 65 plants worldwide, the company’s automotive brands include Ford and Lincoln. The company provides financial services through Ford Motor Credit Company. For more information regarding Ford and its products worldwide, please visit http://corporate.ford.com.

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Reply #25 – December 09, 2013, 02:07:31 PM

Quote from: V8Demon;425317

Yeah, 450 at the crank is only a tune exhaust and air intake away from what I make on my 3v..... So frustrating that the 05-10 models came with what amounts to as a stop-gap, albeit a much better step up compared to the 2v.....

I really gotta get off my keister and order a good torque converter and the intercooler kit. On the other hand is it worth it or do I just sell the '05 and start over......

I could easily get 16K for the car..... Keep 6K for mods and 10 for the down payment....... A blower on these 5.0's with some gears and some DR's and it's instant high 10's...... without the fear of kabooming it like the 3v.....

I never really got attached to my 05 the way I have the Cougar so......

I love your car! You've put a lot of work in it and it shows! Its just such a kick in the balls to read the specs on the '11-'13 cars and realize how outclassed the 3V motor is in comparison. Soooo much potential in the coyote motor!

I came VERY close to selling my '07 this fall. The only things that keep me from selling are 1.) 1st new car I ever bought. The thought of someday owning a new pony car is what kept my nose to the grindstone in college. When I saw the concept for the '05 Mustang I was dead set that I'd own one. Graduated in '04 and by '07 I'd saved enough money to make the purchase. 2.) My 2 year old son might be mad at me for selling it when he gets older. Figure I will probably pass it on to him someday. 3.) It's paid for!

I do also think that the 05-09 'stangs are the 2nd best looking ones ever made. (My favorite would have the be the '69-'70 models). Maybe someday in the distant future I'll do a coyote swap. Hopefully it will become more common and the prices will come down some.

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Reply #26 – December 16, 2013, 07:54:13 PM

I fell into the smaller/lighter hype and hadn't been following too closely. I really wanted to see one in person before making any decision as scale can be tough to determine from internet pics. I saw one at PRI this weekend, and you can color me disappointed.

The styling is OK, and a normal progression IMO, but physically its just another step along the too big path. I was wanting to see sumthin 370z sized but found just another Mustang in the line of cars that are less and less "pony car" with each revision. Tweak the grille and tail light panels and this could fill the Tbird/Cougar slot quite well; but its just too big, and too heavily optioned to fit my idea of what a Mustang should be.
The rep on hand was an engineer involved in the development, and my only question to him was one he was forbidden to answer. Curb weight.... Not that I needed an answer after seeing it in person; it is obvious the final product will not be lighter than its predecessors.

I have not been a Mustang fan for a long time. I was hoping they would play a bit more to the sports car market since the entire industry has abandoned the pony car segment, but until the car loses 4-5" of wheelbase and 400+ pounds I am just not interested.

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Reply #27 – December 16, 2013, 08:20:33 PM

I was hoping it would be lighter. The '12 3.7/auto Mustang we have weighs about 3500lbs with a full tank of gas. My Thunderbird is only about 50ish pounds heavier with a full tank...

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Reply #28 – December 17, 2013, 02:04:25 PM

I agree the S197 platform is too heavy. A featherweight compared to the Dodge Challenger though...those things are freakin huge!

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Reply #29 – December 17, 2013, 03:55:50 PM

Quote from: 50tbrd88;425776

I agree the S197 platform is too heavy. A featherweight compared to the Dodge Challenger though...those things are freakin huge!

Yeah the Challenger and Camaro both weigh in the 4000lb range. That's Crown Vic territory.

I kinda chuckle when Fox-body Mustang guys talk about "heavy" 5.0 Mustang GTs weighing 3300lbs. Heck an 87-93 5.0 LX notch is about 3000lbs. Can you imagine a new 3000-3300lb Mustang with a 5.0 Coyote?