A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #120 – February 25, 2013, 07:44:28 PM Looking good bud, who did you purchase the quarter horse from? Someday I'll finish mine up lol Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #121 – February 25, 2013, 10:25:33 PM Good looking set up Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #122 – February 26, 2013, 01:19:14 AM Looking good mate! :) Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #123 – February 26, 2013, 10:43:47 PM Quote from: Bob;410028Looking good bud, who did you purchase the quarter horse from? Someday I'll finish mine up lol Bob, I purchased the unit itself from Moates, but have a base tune from Dirty Dirty Racing.You gotta start visiting your car in the garage to finish it up! FYI, I recently sold the hood... Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #124 – February 26, 2013, 10:51:39 PM Quote from: Thunderbird88;410063Looking good mate! :) Thanks. I see you're making great progress on your's! A far prettier installation than mine. Also noted you'll be using a Quarterhorse too. My ignorance on how to download the base tune needs to be over come, but if I can accomplish that in the next few days and there are no serious gremlins, it may run this weekend! Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #125 – February 26, 2013, 10:54:14 PM Quote from: STANG8U;410043Good looking set upThanks! As I get this wrapped up, I'll do a chronicle on a new engine in the Mustang. Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #126 – February 26, 2013, 10:57:36 PM Sweet Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #127 – February 27, 2013, 01:20:00 AM Quote from: 86T-bird;410113Thanks. I see you're making great progress on your's! A far prettier installation than mine. Also noted you'll be using a Quarterhorse too. My ignorance on how to download the base tune needs to be over come, but if I can accomplish that in the next few days and there are no serious gremlins, it may run this weekend! It's nice if it looks good but the important thing is that it works and is fast Yeah, my father is using Quarterhorse on his T-bird so I'm getting it aswell, easiest way of doing it.Hopefully the startup will be a success for you :D Is your Procharger self contained or the old model like I have? Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #128 – February 27, 2013, 09:47:53 AM Looking good! Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #129 – February 27, 2013, 12:51:57 PM Quote from: Thunderbird88;410120It's nice if it looks good but the important thing is that it works and is fast Yeah, my father is using Quarterhorse on his T-bird so I'm getting it aswell, easiest way of doing it.Hopefully the startup will be a success for you :D Is your Procharger self contained or the old model like I have? The Quarterhorse offers some great options and a good bit of support. I particularly appreciate the ability to data log & modify the tune, which brings the EEV-IV into the current generation of processors and tuning options.I too have the older oil fed unit. From information I've been able to locate, the oil fed units have some advantages over the self contained (SC) models: The gear ratio is more advantagous (4.44:1 compared to 4:1 for an SC). This allows a larger pulley on the head unit, minimizing potential belt slip. They are claimed to make more power than the SC units. The disadvantages are: Noise and running the oil line. The one on the car is a D1B. These are less common than D1's. They were Procharger's early effort at offering a street oriented blower, offering an early boost response (at an lower RPM), but less boost at higher speeds (similar to the current SC offerings: P1SC & D1SC). This one has a straight impeller blades like a P1SC or P600B, as opposed to the curved ones on a D1 and D1SC. Doing a bit of research, it appears Procharger rated the two blowers as follows: D1B at 825 HP at 63,000 (air flow limited) and the D1 at 925 HP at 65,000The plan is to get the car set up and tuned with the D1B and then have the option to put the D1 head unit on (I have both). The pulleys are set up with a 3.55 head unit and 7.65 crank pulley. An engine RPM of 6,500 should put the head unit at it's max RPM. The guestimate on peak boost with the D1B is 14-16 PSI and 18-20 PSI with the D1.The great part about the Quarterhorse is the ability to sneak up on the boost (by limiting RPM) to minimize the chance of a disaster. With the ablity to access three tunes via the rotary switch, it's possible to set a "safe" tune for pump gas, one for pump gas & methanol injection and one for race gas & methenol. But all that is getting ahead of myself! Step one: Get the tune downloaded to the device! Step two: Complete the final details of the install (and there are a few). Step three: Get it running! Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #130 – February 27, 2013, 02:09:49 PM That's more information than I had! Appriciate it! Always wondered about the D1B, and the information is hard to come by.Wait a minute, did you say the noise is an disadvantage? I absolutley love the whine from Prochargers, it just screams pure shag!Another advantage of having an oil fed unit is that there's less chance for oil overheating. Some people have had issues on long trips with SC units that overheats. I wont be making long journeys but it's good knowing it wont be a problem for me.I'm happy I went with a D1 instead of a P1. I could definetly keep the D1 if/when I build a 347", I can also keep it for a while (but for optimum performance an F1 would be good) on a 427w. I haven't decided yet if I want to build a 347 or 427 for my car. But that's not until atleast 2 years that build is starting.Takes a while installing these superchargers. I've taken my time with it, no rushing. Making everything perfect. Completing it to 100% before the first startup. No need to rush it, we still have snow here :) Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #131 – February 28, 2013, 03:43:32 PM Quote from: Thunderbird88;410159That's more information than I had! Appriciate it! Always wondered about the D1B, and the information is hard to come by.Wait a minute, did you say the noise is an disadvantage? I absolutley love the whine from Prochargers, it just screams pure shag!Another advantage of having an oil fed unit is that there's less chance for oil overheating. Some people have had issues on long trips with SC units that overheats. I wont be making long journeys but it's good knowing it wont be a problem for me.I'm happy I went with a D1 instead of a P1. I could definetly keep the D1 if/when I build a 347", I can also keep it for a while (but for optimum performance an F1 would be good) on a 427w. I haven't decided yet if I want to build a 347 or 427 for my car. But that's not until atleast 2 years that build is starting.Takes a while installing these superchargers. I've taken my time with it, no rushing. Making everything perfect. Completing it to 100% before the first startup. No need to rush it, we still have snow here :) Compiling information on the older units is tough because they are almost Dinosaurs! The noise can get tiresome if you get stuck in traffic. Some of them sound like a coffee can full of marbles!The D1 is pretty versitile. Though I have no first hand proof, the research I've done indicates a D1 will support considerably horsepower more than a D1SC, though they're rated the same. Depending on the power goal, a D1 may support either engine.If you need a bigger head unit, consider a D1R (1,200 HP) or D2R (1,600 HP), will both fit your current set up with just a head change (well the D2R will need a bigger discharge tube...). They too are old oil fed units, but are often available used relatively inexpensively (no one knows what they are, or they are too much blower...). Somthing to keep in mind before swapping out to an F series!I hear you on taking all the time needed to install the unit correctly! They (at least the intercooled Prochargers) are not a simple bolt on and go. I can't count the number of times I've mocked up and made minor adjustments needed to feel its correct. Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #132 – March 01, 2013, 01:05:52 AM I understand why some people go Vortech, it's easy to set up. But I don't understand people who's building a really serious car, and buys a vortech. Not having an intercooler on a streetdriven procharger/vortech setup is like building a race car, and keep it open differential. It will work, but it's stupid :D Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #133 – March 01, 2013, 11:34:56 AM Quote from: Thunderbird88;410274 is like building a race car, and keep it open differential. It will work, but it's stupid :D LOL!I have to admit, Votech's are very simple to mount and has an addtional advantage to those new to supercharging; its draw thru MAF (non-pressurized tune remains the same, so its actually driveable on intitial start). It's claimed they are more efficient, creating less heat, thus reducing the need for a I/C (though most big power applications have some form of I/C, either chemical (meth), air/air, air/water). The use (or abuse) I plan for my application, I prefer the I/C & meth combination!I've been able to get my computer to recognize the Quarterhorse and I've sorted out how to download the strategy and the tune to Binanry Editor & into the device! If there are minimal snags on start up, Sunday may see some pleasant noise in the garage. Quote Selected
A few upgrades: 5/20/13 Pics outside the garage! Reply #134 – March 01, 2013, 06:54:31 PM You people and your Prochargers are silly. I like it. Keep up the good work :). Quote Selected
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