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Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #120 –
I have a V6 T5 bell housing and separator plate.  My dumb-ass bought it thinking it would bolt up to my V8.  It doesn't.  I'll sell it, cheap.  The V6 T-5s are in my yard as well.

-Z
My car is a gravity hybrid.  The gasoline engine gets me up the hills, and gravity gets me down.

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #121 –
Quote from: 88CougarGT;341440
I have a V6 T5 bell housing and separator plate.  My dumb-ass bought it thinking it would bolt up to my V8.  It doesn't.  I'll sell it, cheap.  The V6 T-5s are in my yard as well.

-Z

the 3.8 and 5.0 bolt patterns are the same.... I don't understand why it didn't work for you?

I think I'm just gonna go with regular t-5 if I can pick one up on the cheap. I'm not gonna boost this engine for a good while so for now I'm only gonna be making somewhere between 200-230 hp so I don't need a world class trans yet.

Sooo......

If anyone's got (or can get) a MT from a 94-95 3.8 stang or 85-95 5.0 stang lemme know. Send PM. All I need is the trans and clutch. If you can get it to me (including shipping or transport) for less than $300 I'm interested.
--SteveN πŸ‘
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #122 –
The bolt pattern is the same. I tried to use the separator plate with my V8 bell housing and the Starter hole didn't line up.  The Starter was further out by like 0.5".  I found a v8 separator plate eventually.  Not sure if it would have worked if I swapped to the V6 bell and separator plate.
My car is a gravity hybrid.  The gasoline engine gets me up the hills, and gravity gets me down.

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #123 –
Quote from: sarjxxx;341414
yeah dude but it has to be from a 94-95 not just any old v6 mustang... but hey, if you can get one of those from that year for $110 mail that sumbitch to me I'll throw it right in.

 
Ill be hitting the yard this weekend.  Let me see what I can do for ya.

By the way here is an extensive breakdown on most of the t-5's built for use in fords

Note that the 95-97 use the same T-5 the 94 is different and so is the 94.5
I also stand corrected on the torque rating.

LOOK FOR THE METAL TAG ON THE REAR TAILHOUSING OF THE TRANSMISSION AND THEN LOOK FOR THE 3 DIGITS AFTER THE 1352, THOSE 3 DIGITS ARE THE TRANSMISSION ID #

Ford World Class Transmission identification

Trans ID # / Application / Torque capacity/Gear Ratio's/reverse/Speedo gear/input length/ Pilot Dia.

1352-114 / 85-86 2.3 t / 235 / 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.1 0.81 / 3.76 / 6 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-115 / M/S 79-93 / 305 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.63 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 a


1352-116 / 85-86 SVO / 250 / 3.5 2.14 1.39 1.1 0.78 / 3.39 / 6 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-126 / 85-5.0 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668


1352-141 / 86-5.0 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668


1352-154 / 87 2.3 / 240 / 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.1 0.85 / 3.7 / 7 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-155 / 87 2.3 T / 240 / 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.1 0.79 / 3.7 / 6 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-162 / 87-88 2.3 / 240 / 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.1 0.79 / 3.7 / 7 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-165 / 86-5.0 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668


1352-169 / 861/2-89 5.0 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668


1352-194 / 89-90 2.3 / 240 / 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.1 0.79 / 3.7 / 7 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-199 / 90-91- 5.0 / 300 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.18 / 0.668 b


1352-200 / M/S 5.0 / 305 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.63 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 a


1352-202 / M/S 5.0 / 305 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.8 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 c


1352-204 / Service Repl / 300 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668


1352-207 / 91 - 2.3 / 240 / 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.1 0.79 / 3.7 / 7 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-208 / 92-93 5.0 / 300 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.18 / 0.668 d


1352-209 / 92-93 2.3 / 240 / 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.1 0.79 / 3.7 / 7 / 7.41 / 0.59


1352-218 / 93 Cobra 5.0 / 310 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.18 / 0.668 e


1352-219 / 94 5.0 / 300 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.85 / 0.668


1352-220 / 94 3.8 v6 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.73 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.85 / 0.668


1352-225 / M/S 5.0 / 325 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.8 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 b,c,d


1352-227 / M/S 5.0 / 325 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.63 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 b.c.d.f


1352-236 / 94 1/2 3.8 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.73 / 3.15 / 7 / 7.85 / 0.668


1352-238 / 95-97 3.8 / 265 / 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.85 / 0.668


1352-239 / 93 Cobra / 310 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.18 / 0.668 e


1352-242 / 94-95 Cobra / 310 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.85 / 0.668 e


1352-246 / 94-95 5.0 / 300 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.85 / 0.668


1352-249 / M/S 79-93 / 330 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.63 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 e,g


1352-251 / A/M 79-93 / 330 / 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.1 0.63 / 2.76 / 7 / 7.18 / 0.668 c,e


1352-253 / A/M 94-95 / 310 / 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.1 0.68 / 3.15 / 8 / 7.85 / 0.668 c,e

* This is part number that can be found only on the aluminum tag, bolted to the extension housing. Each part on the trans has a similar part # but that is for that specific part, it will not help you to id transmission.

M/S = Motorsport or Ford Racing
A/M= Aftermarket

Notes: (a) Ford ms m7003a (b) improved steel (c) aftermarket (d) carbon fiber 3/4 blocker
(e) cobra tapered roller pocket bearing. (f) Ford ms 7003x (g) Ford ms7003z
All input splines are 1 1/16- 10T
All Output Spline are 28 T
41 Dodge Luxury Liner Sedan
78 F-100 2wd flareside
84Turbo Coupe
84 Thunderbird Γ‰lan
85 Thunderbird 3.8
88 Turbo Coupe
88 Mustang GT
90 Stang LX 5.0 5spd
93 F-150 4x4 ext cab
96 Mustang GT
98 Mustang GT
99 SVT Cobra
06 Fusion SEL
14 Fusion Sport

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #124 –
I have a more extensive listing somewhere on this  laptop.  When I find it ill post it up.  It could be useful as a sticky.
41 Dodge Luxury Liner Sedan
78 F-100 2wd flareside
84Turbo Coupe
84 Thunderbird Γ‰lan
85 Thunderbird 3.8
88 Turbo Coupe
88 Mustang GT
90 Stang LX 5.0 5spd
93 F-150 4x4 ext cab
96 Mustang GT
98 Mustang GT
99 SVT Cobra
06 Fusion SEL
14 Fusion Sport

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #125 –
What are you doing to the V-6 now to get 200-230 hp from it? Have you thought about a 5.0 swap?
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #126 –
Quote from: vinnietbird;341548
What are you doing to the V-6 now to get 200-230 hp from it? Have you thought about a 5.0 swap?

Ok, 230 is probably a little excessively exagerated, but to say 200 is not at all. How?

-porting, exhaust, intake, fuel, roller rockers, ac and smog delete, m.t., timing...... and trust me, that much will do it too. Says me? no. Says mr. dyno.

Have I thought about a 5.0 swap? I hopw thats a smart ass question vinnie.:giggle: A whole year I've been on this forum talking about my V6 and the fact that I wan't to build the  out of it and I DONT want to put a v8 in it and you missed it?:p heres the story man:

Quote from: sarjxxx from my cardomain page
When I got this car, I was not a fan of the stock 3.8. No power, no tourque, no speed, and most importantly, no reliability. That engine was constantly having problems. Mostly with the cooling system, due in part mostly to age and most likely not enough good maintanence.

Eventually it blew a freeze plug right out of the side of the block, emptying all the coolant fluid nearly instantly, and unknown to me, causing a very quick overheat. Well, the hot engine did what hot engines do, and started to miss and then seized nearly instantly. The engine was toast, but I had to much sentiment in this car by then, so I decided to replace it.

Not long after I bought the car I had planned to swap in a Mustang 5.0HO, however when this happened I was not in the best financial situation, nor did I have the time required for such an involved operation. So I decided to replace the v6. I searched all over and found a rebuilt on e-bay for $1000 delivered.

Finally finished work on the new engine, after 3 weeks and $2000! In the process, nearly 90% of the engine bay has been replaced, reworked, or upgraded, or removed.

(this all happened in the beginning of 2009)

I no longer want to swap in a V8. Partly because of all the time and money I put in to the one I have, but also because with some serious work and tlc, the Ford 3.8 can actually put out some serious power, without sucking all the gas of a big heavy V8, plus I find it pretty neat to have a powerful V6 when everyone around you is running big V8's.

Trust me, I know it would be easier and cost effective to put in a HO but I don't care. I'm not after something easy and boring that everyone else on here has done. I want to build the  out of my V6, just because I can. And when I'm done with it, my N/A split-port motor WILL keep up with your HO's. And trust me, even as it sits right now, it will whoop a stock SO.

And when I boost this engine, you guys better have boost too or I guarantee you will get stomped. 400hp/450tq is not a made up number. thats real proven dyno numbers. Can it reach a boosted big block? NO. Can it whoop the  out of some v8's while still looking like a sleeper? Yes.

Am I being a little frustrated here, yes. Sorry, nothing personal, I'm just tired of explaining it to everyone.

Thank you, and good evening.
--SteveN πŸ‘
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #127 –
Bro, have you snooped around on this site at all?


http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/
41 Dodge Luxury Liner Sedan
78 F-100 2wd flareside
84Turbo Coupe
84 Thunderbird Γ‰lan
85 Thunderbird 3.8
88 Turbo Coupe
88 Mustang GT
90 Stang LX 5.0 5spd
93 F-150 4x4 ext cab
96 Mustang GT
98 Mustang GT
99 SVT Cobra
06 Fusion SEL
14 Fusion Sport

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #128 –
yeah i've tried but my acrobat reader isn't upgraded enough to handle the pdf pages and I don't feel like spending money to upgrade it.
--SteveN πŸ‘
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #129 –
Hey,I can respect a V-6. My favorite has always been the Buick GNX. Holy  that car was awesome.
'88 Sport--T-5,MGW shifter,Trick Flow R intake,Ed Curtis cam,Trick Flow heads,Scorpion rockers,75mm Accufab t-body,3G,mini starter,Taurus fan,BBK long tube headers,O/R H-Pipe, Flowamaster Super 44's, deep and deeper Cobra R wheels, Mass Air and 24's,8.8 with 3.73's,140 mph speedo,Mach 1 chin spoiler,SN-95 springs,CHE control arms,aluminum drive shaft and a lot more..

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #130 –
I found that info on T-5's for ya

Here's some light reading for you. Taken from Modern Driveline

Not All T-5's are Created Equal
Not all Borg Warner/TREMEC T-5's are the same. The first T-5 five speeds were introduced to market in 1981, in all things, a AMC Spirit/Concord. In 1983, T-5's were introduced to Fox body Mustangs and are still used in the 3.8L V-6 Mustangs. The T-5 is the only American made standard transmission to span more than 20 years of production. Because of the large quantities of T-5's produced, many parts are interchangeable. There are now over 200 different T-5 transmission assembly part numbers and still counting.


World Class & Non-World Class
There are two basic kinds of T-5's, Non World Class (NWC) and World Class (WC). The first T-5 was non-world class. In 1983 and 84 Ford used the Non-World Class T-5 to improve the Mustangs performance and gas mileage. All the V8 NWC boxes had 2.95 first gear set with .68 overdrive. All the main output shaft gears and 1st, 2nd, 3rd, gears riding on a solid output shaft with deep oil grooves to provide lubrication. The lower counter gears spin on straight cylindrical bearings with a thrust washer in front to provide support when under load. All the synchronizer rings are made of solid bronze which are of different size than those found in a would-class T-5. It is because there is no bearing under each gear and the bronze synchro rings that the NWC use the heavy 70w gear oil. Torque rating for the NWC was 265ft/lbs.

1985, Ford introduced the World Class T-5 installed with 3.35 first gear set with a .68od behind the 5.OL. T-5 was also used behind both the standard 2.3L with a 3.97 first gearset and the SVO Mustang. SVO received a one year only 3.50 first gear ratio as the 3.97 gear ratio was too low for the added power of the turbo charged 2.3L. No longer were 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears spinning on a solid output shaft as needle bearings were installed under each gear to reduce drag. The lower counter gears saw tapered bearings to replace the bronze thrust washer. All main shaft synchro's were fiber lined steel rings to improve rings friction surface while 5th remains bronze. By improving the surface friction the synchro slows the gear faster making for smoother shifts. The design remained the same until 1989. Torque rating remained the same at 265ft/lbs.

1990 to 1993 the stock Ford production V-8 WC T-5 was upgraded with stronger 3.35 gear set by increasing the nickel content to produce a harder, stronger gear. 2nd and 3rd gear ratios were decreased slightly tp provide more torque to the rear wheels. Synchro linings on 3rd, 4th were improved by changing from fiber linings to carbon fiber to further improve the friction surface resulting in better high rpm shifts. A longer throw shifter was installed to "make shifting easier". The speedo drive gear was changed from 7 tooth to 8 tooth. The 8 tooth was a step backwards when installing lower rear axle ratio greater than 3.55 as the driven gear is limited to 21tooth count. Yes, 23 tooth gears are available but do not last long as the teeth are thin and do not mesh correctly. Torque rating jumped to 300ft/lbs.

When the 93 Cobra was introduced, so was the "Cobra Spec" T-5. It was the first T-5 with a front tapered output bearing and steel front bearing retainer. The Cobra boxes also received a reverse gear brake and synchro assembly where there was none before. Just about everything else remained the same. Torque rating was increased to 310ft/lbs.

1994 and 95 were the last two years Ford used the T-5 behind a V-8. With the introduction of the SN95 Mustangs, the bell housings in both 3.8L and 5.0L were made deeper to place the T-5 shifter in the correct location to the body. This in turn made the input shaft longer. The neutral safety switch was eliminated, as it was no longer needed. The GT 5.0L Mustangs received the standard input shaft bearing and aluminum bearing retainer, where the Cobras continued with the tapered or "cupped bearing" input shaft and steel front bearing retainer. Torque ratings for both remained the same as the 93 T-5 models. 4 cylinder T-5s were no longer needed when the 3.8L V6 motor came along and was replaced with 3.35 first gear ratio and a .68od. The only difference between the 3.8L and standard 5.0L T-5 was the input shaft length. Changing input shaft of the 3.8L T-5 with 93 input shaft, will result in a 93 and early spec T-5. Everything else remained the same.

Today's V-6 Mustangs sports the last of the T-5s. The T-5 behind the 3.8L is a 3.35 first gear set with a .68 over drive. What makes these different from the rest is the electronic speedometer trigger. No longer is there a mechanical driven cable system. It has the longer input shaft equipped with a steel front bearing retainer and reverse synchro brake assembly. Torque rating is 300ft/lbs.

Ford also used the T-5 in 2.3L cars through the years. While the 4 cylinder T-5 may appear to be the same, they are not. Most 4 cylinder T-5s received a 3.97 gear set with a .79 overdrive and small input pilot bearing shaft. Four cylinder T-5's should not be used behind a V-8, even when the pilot bearing id is decreased to match. Simply put, they will not hold up. Torque rating ~240ft/lbs. Besides first gear is much too low to be usable behind a high horse power car.

The "Z" Spec T-5
In 1993 Ford started offering a new service unit to the motorsport crowd. The "Z" spec T-5 (Ford part number 7003Z, also sometimes referred to as "World Class T-5". Most folks, associate the term "World Class" as meaning the best, however world class T-5 were introduced in 1985 as stated ealier. The T-5z is a 1993 Cobra T-5 with 2.95 first gear set and .63 over drive. It has the best of everything. Hardened gears, short throw factory shifter, steel front bearing retainer, and tapered output shaft bearing ands a seven tooth speedometer gear. Best of all it has a torque rating of 330ft/lbs based on 100,000 mile usage. The stock T-5Z can handle up to 450 hp when not drag raced.

Aftermarket Super Heavy Duty T-5's
Now that after market companies offer new and improved gearsets, T-5's can now handle up to 600hp and are used in drag racing on a regular basis. The advantage of this setup is the small platform which will spin up faster than a heavier TREMEC or Richmond transmission.

Borg Warner and TREMEC
About 1998, TREMEC bought the T5 product line from Borg Warner and have produced the T5 used ever since. Note that the transmission is the same although the case stamp will say TREMEC or Borg Warner depending on who manufactured it.

So as you can see not all T-5's were created equal. T-5's are a smooth shifting, strong, light weight transmission that can be used for daily driving, spirited driving, or all out racing. How you set up your T-5 is important so you get the most from it.

One last piece of important information. ALL World Class T-5 use ATF oil and NOT heavy gear oil or Redline MTL! All NON-World Class T-5 use 70 wt gear oil. We recommend high quality Synthetic oil as it lasts a long time and over a larger operating temperature. It is important to change the oil in your transmission based on how you use the vehicle. If the vehicle is your daily driver then changing the oil every two to three years is fine. However, if the transmission sees regular track duty and pushed hard, then once or twice a year is in order. When we rebuild transmissions, we can tell when the oil has been changed often as the parts are much cleaner with less over all wear. There is no filter inside the manual transmission only a magnet at the bottom to pick up the metallic particles in the oil, the only metallic parts in a transmission is the gears or bearings. Oil is cheap, transmissions are not!

TAG # VEHICLE APPLICATION CODE REV 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1352-001 AMC 1982-83 Passenger Car 258 L6
1352-002 AMC 1982 Jeep CJ 258 L6
1352-003 Never Released
1352-004 Nissan 1983 280z 2.8 L6 turbo E ? 3.50 2.14 1.38 1.00 0.78
1352-005 GM 1984-86 Chevette 1.6 L4 D 3.76 3.76 2.18 1.36 1.00 0.86
1352-006 AMC 1982 passenger car
1352-007 AMC 1982 Eagle 258 L6
1352-008 AMC 1982 Eagle 2.5 L4
1352-009 Never Released
1352-010 GM 1982 S Truck 4-6 Cylinder P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-011 Never Released
1352-012 GM 1982 S Truck 2.4L Diesel C 3.39 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-013 GM 1983 T Truck 4-6 Cylinder C 3.39 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-014 GM 1983 T Truck 4 Cylinder all C 3.39 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-015 GM 1983 Camaro/Firebird 2.8 V6 E 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.86
1352-016 AMC 1982 Jeep CJ 2.5 L4
1352-017 AMC 1982 Jeep CJ 258 L6
1352-018 Ford 1983-84 T-Bird/Mustang 2.3 L4 Turbo C 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-019 AMC Passenger Car
1352-020 AMC Jeep
1352-021 AMC Passenger Car
1352-022 AMC 1982 Jeep
1352-023 AMC Jeep
1352-024 AMC Jeep
1352-025 AMC Jeep
1352-026 AMC Jeep 2.1 L4 Diesel
1352-027 GM 1983 Camaro/Firebird 2.5 L4 H 3.39; 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-028 GM 1983 Camaro/Firebird 5.0 V8 G 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-029 AMC 1983 1/12 Jeep XJ 2.5 L4
1352-030 AMC 1983 1/12 Jeep XJ 2.8 V6
1352-031 Ford 1983 T-Bird/Mustang 2.3 L4
1352-032 Nissan 1983 280ZX Europe 2.8 V6 Turbo D 3.76 3.76 2.18 1.36 1.00 0.86
1352-033 GM 1983 S10 Truck 2.0 L4 2.8 V6 E 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78
1352-034 Ford 1983 SVO Mustang 5.0 V8 C 3.39 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-035 AMC 1983 Jeep CJ 2.1 L4 Diesel 2.2 L4 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-036 Never Released
1352-037 Never Released
1352-038 Never Released
1352-039 Never Released
1352-040 AMC 1983 Jeep XJ 2.5 L4
1352-041 AMC 1983 Jeep SJ 2.8 V6
1352-042 GM 1984-85 S-10 Truck 2.8 V6 A 3.76 4.00 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-043 GM 1984-85 S-10 Truck 2.8 V6 A 3.76 4.00 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-044 AMC 1983 1/12 Jeep CJ RHD 2.1 L4 Diesel
1352-045 AMC 1983 Eagle 2.5 L4
1352-046 AMC 1983 Jeep CJ 2.5 L4
1352-047 Nissan 1984 280ZX 2.8 L6 Turbo J 3.15 3.35 2.08; 1.38 1.00 0.78
1352-048 AMC 1984 Eagle 258 L6
1352-049 AMC 1984 Eagle 2.5 L4
1352-050 AMC 1984 Jeep CJ 2.5 L4 258 L6
1352-051 AMC 1984 Jeep CJ 258 L6
1352-052 AMC 1984 Jeep CJ 2.1 L4-D-2.2
1352-053 AMC 1984 Jeep CJ RHD 2.1 L4-D
1352-054 GM 1984 Camaro/Firebird 2.5 L4 K 3.76 3.76 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-055 GM 1984 S Truck 1.95 L4 Isuzu C 3.39 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-056 GM 1984 S Truck 2.0 L4 C 3.39 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-057 GM 1984 S Truck 1.95 L4 C 3.39; 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-058 GM 1984 S Truck 2.0 L4- 2.8 V6 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-059 AMC 1984 Jeep XJ 2.5 L4
1352-060 AMC 1984 Jeep XJ 2.5 L4
1352-061 GM 1984 Camaro/Firebird 2.8 V6 E 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78
1352-062 GM 1984 Camaro/Firebird 5.0 V8 G 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-063 Never Released
1352-064 Never Released
1352-065 Ford 1984 Mustang/Capri 5.0 V8 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-066 ?
1352-067 Ford 1984 SVO W/Hurst 2.3 EFI TC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-068 Nissan 1984 300 ZX NA/EUR J 3.15 3.35 2.08; 1.38 1.00 0.78
1352-069 Nissan 1984 300 ZX NA/EUR J 3.15 3.35 2.08; 1.38 1.00 0.78
1352-070 GM 1984 1/2 Camaro/Firebird 5.0 V8 IG4 IG9 G 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-071 GM 1985 Camaro/Firebird 2.8 V6 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-072 GM 1985 Camaro/Firebird 5.0 V8 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-073 Never Released
1352-074 AMC 1985-86 Eagle 258 L6
1352-075 AMC 1984 1/2 Eagle
1352-076 AMC 1985-86 Jeep CJ 2.5 L4-258 L6
1352-077 AMC 1985-86 Jeep CJ 258 L6
1352-078 AMC 1984 1/2 Jeep CJ
1352-079 AMC 1985-86 Jeep CJ 2.1 L4 Diesel
1352-080 Nissan 1985 300 ZX TC 3.0 V6 T 3.15 3.35 2.08 1.38 1.00 0.78
1352-081 Nissan 1985-86 300 ZX Europe TC 3.0 V6 T 3.15 3.35 2.08 1.38 1.00 0.78
1352-082 AMC 1985 Eagle
1352-083 GM 1985 Camaro/Firebird 2.5 L4 R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-084 GM 1985 Camaro/Firebird S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78
1352-085 AMC 1984 Jeep XJ
1352-086 AMC 1984-85-86 Eagle 2.5 L4
1352-087 Never Released
1352-088 Never Released
1352-089 Never Released
1352-090 Never Released
1352-091 Never Released
1352-092 Never Released
1352-093 Never Released
1352-094 Never Released
1352-095 Never Released
1352-096 Never Released
1352-097 Never Released (Australian Ford?)
1352-098 Never Released
1352-099 Never Released
1352-100 Never Released
1352-101 GM 1985 M-Van 4.3 V6 S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-102 GM 1985-86 2.5 L4 R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-103 Never Released
1352-104 Never Released
1352-105 Never Released
1352-106 Never Released
1352-107 GM 1985 S-Truck 2.2 L4 Diesel R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-108 GM 1985-86 T-Truck 2.5 L4-2.8 V6 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.72
1352-109 Never Released
1352-110 GM 1985 S-Truck 2.5 L4-2.8 V6 R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-111 Never Released
1352-112 Never Released
1352-113 Never Released
1352-114 Ford 1985-86 T-Bird/Mustang/SVO 2.3 TC L4 WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.81
1352-115 Ford SVO 5.0 V8 WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.68
1352-116 Ford 1985-86 SVO Mustang 2.3 EFI TC L4 WC S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78
1352-117 Never Released
1352-118 Never Released
1352-119 Never Released
1352-120 Never Released
1352-121 Never Released
1352-122 Never Released
1352-123 Never Released
1352-124 Never Released
1352-125 Never Released
1352-126 Ford 1985 Mustang/Capri 5.0 V8 WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.80
1352-127 Never Released
1352-128 Never Released
1352-129 Never Released
1352-130 Never Released
1352-131 Never Released
1352-132 Never Released
1352-133 Never Released
1352-134 Ford 1986 UK-SVO Sierra 2.0 L4 TC WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80
1352-135 Never Released
1352-136 GM 1985 S-Truck 2.2 L4 Isuzu R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-137 Never Released
1352-138 Never Released
1352-139 Never Released
1352-140 Never Released
1352-141 Ford 1986-87 Mustang/Capri 5.0 V8 EFI WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68
1352-142 Ford WC W 0.71
1352-143 Never Released
1352-144 Never Released
1352-145 GM 1985-86 S-Truck 2.5 L4-2.8 V6 R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-146 GM 1985 S-Truck 2.8 V6 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-147 Never Released
1352-148 GM 1985 M-Van 4.3 V6 S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-149 GM 1986 M-Van 4.3 V6 S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-150 GM 1986 Camaro/Firebird V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68
1352-151 Nissan 1986 300ZX North America 3.0 Turbo V6 T 3.15 3.35 2.08 1.38 1.00 0.75
1352-152 Never Released
1352-153 Never Released
1352-154 Ford 1987 Mustang/Capri 2.3 L EFI WC X 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.85
1352-155 Ford 1987 T-Bird Cougar 2.3 L4 Turbo WC X 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.79
1352-156 GMC 1986 V6 F Cars 2.8 V6 LB8 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-157 GMC 1986 V8 F Cars .9 V8 LG4-LG9 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-158 GMC 1986 L4 F Cars 2.5 L4-L09 R 3.76 3.78 2.18 1.42 1.00 0.72
1352-159 GMC 1986 F Cars 5.0 V8 LG4 WC (cancelled)
1352-160 GM 1986 F Cars 5.0 V8 L69 WC (cancelled)
1352-161 GM 1986 Berlinetta 2.8 V6 LB8 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-162 Ford 1987 Mustang/Capri 2.3 L4 EFI WC X 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.79
1352-163 BTR WC S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78
1352-164 GM 1986 M-Van 4.3 V6 S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-165 Ford 1986 Mustang 5.0 V8 WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68
1352-166 GM 1987 F Cars LB9-308 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-167 Ford 1986 1/2 T-Bird/Cougar 2.3 L4 Turbo WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.81
1352-168 Ford 1986 1/2 SVO Mustang 2.3 L4 Turbo WC S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78
1352-169 Ford 1986 1/2 Mustang/Capri 5.30 V8 WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68
1352-170 GM 1988 M-Van 2.5 L4 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.72
1352-171 Never Released
1352-172 Never Released
1352-173 Never Released
1352-174 Cosworth Sierra WC
1352-175 GM 1988 F Car B9 Racing 5.0L V WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-176 GM 1988 F Car lO3 TBI 5.0L V8 WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-177 GM 1988 F Car LB8 2.8 V6 WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-178 GM 1987 F Cars LB9 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-179 GM 1989 M-Van 4.3L V6 S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-180 GM 1989 M-Van 2.5L P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.72
1352-181 GM 1987 F-Car V6 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-182 GM 1987 F-Car LB9-308 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-183 GM 1987 F-Car LB9 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-184 Ford 1988 Sierra 2.0 L4 Turbo WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80
1352-185 GM 1987 F-Car V8 U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.72
1352-186 GM 1989 S-Truck 2.5L R 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-187 BTR LB9
1352-188 BTR WC
1352-189 GM 1989 M-Van 4.3L V6 S 3.39 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.73
1352-190 GM 1989 M-Van 2.5L L4 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.72
1352-191 GM 1989 T-Truck 2.5L L4 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.72
1352-192 GM 1989 S-Truck 2.8L V6 Only R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.79
1352-193 GM 1989 S-Truck 2.5L L4 Only P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-194 Ford 1989 Mustang 2.3L EFI WC X 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.79
1352-195 GM 1989 F-Cars L89 5.0L V8 WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-196 GM 1989 F-Car LO3 TBI 5.0L V8 WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-197 GM 1989 F-Car LB8 2.8 V6 WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-198 Isuzu Rodeo WC R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.81
1352-199 Ford 1990 Mustang 5.0L V8 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-200 Ford 1989 SVO Mustang WC (After Market) U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-201 GM 1990 S-Truck P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-202 Ford SVO WC (Aftermarket) U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80
1352-203 Panther Solo WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80
1352-204 Ford Mustang 5.0L V8 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-205 Melroe Spray Coupe WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-206 GM 1992 S-Truck 2.5L L4 P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-207 Ford WC X 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.79
1352-208 Ford 1992 5.0L Mustang WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-209 Ford 1992 2.3L Mustang WC X 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.79
1352-210 GM 1993 MY-F Car 3.4L V6 WC Z 3.53 3.75 2.19 1.41 1.00 0.72
1352-211 GM 1992 S-Truck 2.5 L4 R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.72
1352-212 GM 1992 1/2 MY-F Car WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-213 GM 1992 1/2 MY-F Car WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-214 GM 1992 1/2 MY-F Car WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-215 Isuzu 1993 Rodeo 2.0L L4 WC R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.81
1352-216 GM 1993 MY 2.2L S-Truck WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-217 Never Released
1352-218 Ford 1993 MY GT V8 5.0 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-219 Ford 1994 1/2 MY SN95 5.0L WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-220 Ford 1994 1/2 MY SN95 3.8L WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.72
1352-221 GM 1993 MY S-Truck 2.5L WC A 3.76 4.00 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-222 GM 1993 MY S-Truck 2.8L WC R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.72
1352-223 BW 4x4 WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-224 Never Released
1352-225 Ford WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80
1352-226 Ssangyong FJ Vehicle 4x4 WC
1352-227 FSVO No Rev Brake WC
1352-228 GM 2.8 V6 WC P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.76
1352-229 Melroe Sprayer WC
1352-230 Never Released
1352-231 Never Released
1352-232 GM 1993 MY S 2.8L WC R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.72
1352-233 GM 1993 MY 2.5L P 3.76 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.86
1352-234 GM 1993 MY 2.8L
1352-235 Never Released
1352-236 Ford 1994 1/2 MY SN-95 3.8 V6 WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.73
1352-237 Ssangyong WC
1352-238 Ford Mustang 3.8 V6 WC V 3.15 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.72
1352-239 Ford 1992-93 Mustang 5.0 V8 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-240 TVR Griffith Veh 4.3 V8 WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.73
1352-241 Never Released
1352-242 Ford 1994 Mustang Cobra 5.0 V8 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-243 Ssangyong WC 4 X 4
1352-244 Ssangyong 1994 Korenda Diesel WC
1352-245 GM 1994 Camaro/Firebird V6 WC Z 3.53 3.75 2.19 1.41 1.00 0.72
1352-246 Ford 1994 Mustang 5.0 V8 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-247 GM 1996 Camaro/Firebird V6 WC Z 3.53 3.75 2.19 1.41 1.00 0.72
1352-248 TVR WC U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80
1352-249 Ford Mustang All 5.0 V8 WC (see below) U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-250 Isuzu 1996 rodeo 2.6 L4 WC R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.81
1352-251 Ford 1993-prior Mustang 5.0 V8 WC (see below) U 2.76 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63
1352-252 Isuzu 1995 1/2 WC R 3.70 3.97 2.34 1.48 1.00 0.81
1352-253 Ford 1994-95 Mustang 5.0 V8 WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68
1352-254 P/Tech Megestar 4x2 Lotus 2.2 TB WC Y 3.15 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.83
1352-255 Ssangyong WC
1352-256 Ssangyong WC
1352-257 Nissan 4X4 WC w/ 1354 T-case Mount
1352-258 1998 Isuzu Rodeo WC w.81 OD
1352-259
1352-260 1999 Mustang WC (w/elec.speedo)
1352-261 Ssangyong Diesel
1352-262 Ssangyong Gas



Note: the "code" column of the chart simply corresponds to the common first-through-fourth gear ratio combinations.

According to some sources, the 1352-249 tag indicates the Ford Motorsports "T5z" transmission, which was specially built for racing applications. The same sources indicate that 1352-251 is the same transmission as a 1352-249, except assembled by Tremec after Borg-Warner stopped production.
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41 Dodge Luxury Liner Sedan
78 F-100 2wd flareside
84Turbo Coupe
84 Thunderbird Γ‰lan
85 Thunderbird 3.8
88 Turbo Coupe
88 Mustang GT
90 Stang LX 5.0 5spd
93 F-150 4x4 ext cab
96 Mustang GT
98 Mustang GT
99 SVT Cobra
06 Fusion SEL
14 Fusion Sport

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #131 –
ahhhh..... ok, really cool. thx much
--SteveN πŸ‘
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #132 –
I think it would be alot easier to find a 95+ t-5 in a yard and swap the input shaft.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #133 –
I would still need to have a <95 trans to get the input shaft from.....
--SteveN πŸ‘
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L

Project Black Panther: 1988 3.8L Cougar LS

Reply #134 –
got my shorties on the car today.

I've had a pair of factory "headers" for a 3.8 mustang for months now buy I've been holding off on putting them on cause I thought one of them was modified. (ebay special). Well, after looking at the ones on my 96 more closely, I realized its actually supposed to be like that. So I threw them on just for the hell of it, see what they sound like.

In the process of sawzalling the old exhaust off, since the old studs and nuts were heat welded on, I did accidentally cut into a tranny cooler line... course that wasn't that big of a deal b/c I'm not going to be needing them anyway :D

Course, when I went to put the spark plugs back in after switching the manifolds out, I realised I had put the ps gasket on upside down, so when I was taking the last bolt back out of the head, it snapped off. :punchballs:

I also found out that while the DS fits great, the ps is going to need a little modifying if I'm going to hook a downpipe up. Apparently the stud is outside of the chassis. and the collector opening just barely clears by the skin of my teeth. So if I'm gonna hook up a pipe, its gonna take some modifying right there.

Still not sure if it'll come to that though, cause I stll plan on grabbing up a set of longtubes and seeing if I can make them fit. Those are what I'd rather have on there. But for now, I think I'm just gonna run around with the open shorties for a while. Man those sob's are loud - and fun!:D:D:D


I am thinking that just for now, I am going to go ahead and pull the AOd out of the car since either way it has to come out. I'm gonna start tearing it apart out in the driveway to see if I can figure out what went wrong. maybe I can fix it pretty cheap and get this thing running again, while I build up more funds to put the 5 speed in.
--SteveN πŸ‘
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L