I am a thief,,not so fast (very long read)

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I am a thief,,not so fast (very long read)

Reply #30 – March 01, 2010, 12:11:45 AM

Quote from: vinnietbird;312102

This is also what I was talking about.You're reading what you want to hear,not always what is being said.You're taking something and picking it apart and buttstuffyzing it til it's so complicated.I didn't say you weren't worth it ?

actually, i totally understand what you just said. what you didnt realize is that the very reasons i am on point is because of the situation the store placed my family and myself in.

You may not like it but you did infact say i should not persue or wast time on something that is not worth it.

that something happens to be the problem the brought upon the kids, wife and me.

by the way,, its been like six months now on that check i sent you for the parts. checks cashed , wheres my parts? its all good cause your on here all the time but i dont appreciate your jumpin in on the thread like theres not problem.

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Reply #31 – March 01, 2010, 12:48:49 AM

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A mistake was made...an apology given.Case closed.

Vin, It wasn't just a mistake. IMHO given the "facts" the girl was more interested in manipulating the situation to save her job or whatever. She knew she was wrong and things escalated due to her actions not jcassitys. She could have said "I'm sorry" on the spot when she realized when she shaged up. She didn't. She decided to deflimate ones character rather than admit fault. If she simply said she was wrong, messed up and apologized it would be a finished ordeal. If they kept it in "quiet" and within the store, it would be a different ordeal, but they didn't. Personeally, I fully expect everyone to stand up to their own actions. Perhaps some of us are not the same way. It's fine to make mistakes. It's NEVER okay to let someone else fall for them.

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Reply #32 – March 01, 2010, 01:01:46 AM

i honestly and truely believe the girl at the counter fully believed she did infact give me three packs of marlboro (for the mother in law). I could just tell by the way she was acting. It had me second guessing myself.

it was the manager ........and so goes the way of post number 1 and the rest of the story.

getting my parts and nput from vinnie might be a double htter for ths thread.

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Reply #33 – March 01, 2010, 06:50:54 AM

You sent a check 6 months ago for parts?What parts did we deal for 6 months ago?According to my parts books,everything has been shipped.Let me know.I may have mad a mistake.

Back on topic,As I stated previously,I bow out.It's getting "heated" in this thread.No need for that on this forum for me.I was just giving an opinion as I stated with no ill intent,and no offense meant.Just an opinion.I don't need to argue.Again,good luck to you with this matter.

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Reply #34 – March 01, 2010, 10:35:24 AM

its ok, check 1584 ,, more like back in apr 09. my math was off. time flies. anway, it was for a cruise cable. you had sent me a clip prior to that on a different transaction. already confirmed check cleared. either way , i just dont like having my money taken but i trust you anyway.

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Reply #35 – March 01, 2010, 10:47:55 AM

That was totally 100% my oversight.Send me your address through PM and I'll ship it after work today.My apologies.If we do business and it's not there when you think it should be,let me know.I goofed it up.I got ya' covered.Do you need anything else I can toss in to make it right for you?

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Reply #36 – March 01, 2010, 02:21:13 PM

jcassity,
i can side with u on this subject. i was put into a simular sitution. a local store accused me of stealing gas. they call my family posted a flier at their store accusing me of the theift. after they reviewed their tapes found out i did pay for it and called me to say sorry. but i found out about the flier from a friend and i made them put up a new flier saying i wasnt a theif and the did it on the outside bill board so anybody who drove by would see it , but that was with a mom and pop store. i wish u the best and again say hope u get what u want out of them buy the means of a public appoligy.

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Reply #37 – March 01, 2010, 04:23:40 PM

I have to agree with Vinnie on this.... but I guess to each his own.

As for 'experts" working at the store... I'm not sure what qualifies them as 'experts'... they are just normal people,. doing their job.... they can make mistakes, they are not infallible.

I just see it that an apology was made. It should be over with.
I just don't understand what you would go to court for over it... what exactly you would 'sue' for. That is why I asked about it.
If it's that big of a deal, ask the district manager to put up a flier saying they apologize.... I'm just not understanding what else you want from them.

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Reply #38 – March 02, 2010, 01:36:26 AM

I told you what i want, not sure why you still dont understand.

I did drop it right after i departed the store,, didnt want to see someone loose thier job over this stuff.

how many times do i have to say it. the initial mistake was fine by LISA at the counter. After the manager reviewed everything,, (as a good manager with training per the shell web link i posted does), she concluded guilt. Impossed her predetermnined conditions of my repenting and under no uncertain terms, if i or my family were to return, we were to be considered as tresspassing and will have the law called on us. <<<<<<<<<<<
Part c- yappers went flyin about this and that till word made it back to me.
Part D- we were uninformed of any of this going on during day 2 and upon our return, my wife was somehow drug into it because she had a cup of tea in her hand.<
part E- As a result i contacted the manager and she "the strong spoken woman" (see post 1 again), read me the riot act on my conditions to return.
Part F- if i had not insisted to see these videos she so insistently indicated its clear as a bell i took the product, I would not have made it to part E.

part E- an unfamiliar voice of the manager called me up within an hour and said what i posted.,,, therefore I did not do anything wrong.

MY point, you can make an honest mistake,, but per shells training page three of the document i posted,, "BE SURE".

Even if reality is true, these people are the subject matter experts of the facility and represent the company ,, which is supported by training that isnt my fault if they slept through.

Crist sakes,, you sound like Nancy P saying dude wasnt aware of the house rules on gifts and therefore he takes comfort in that. (ignorance of the law is an excuse for whom makes the laws i guess).

Like i said, i told you what i want.

progress made today while on my way to durham NC. Will be dealing with the Abitration segment of shells assigned asset recovery rep.

For some reason they get it,, the initial issue was a mistake but to double up on the mistake and inflame it further and threaten my family and myself with arrest, that was uncalled for. They will not agree to a local paper apology though, since this station is a shell food stop franchise. I am pressing them because the franchise must opperate under shells policies and to include even how displays are placed so therefore is a wholey opperated "shell applicable" establishment. The rep of course had not recourse but to agree to that part.

like i said,, its a project,, treat it as such and it will the final phase.

I have still not been allowed to see the video.
I have still not seen the inventory showing after my allegid stealing the inventory was off by one pack per the manager

yep, this stinks but its not going to be easy, niether is life.

i think ive explained the step by step too many times, if you dont get it then thats fine.

you have to understand,,,
I am probably one of a handfull of people in the whole city of VA Beach who while renting an apartment, had a tree fall on my 84 coug and proved it was not an act of god, to which the insurance agent of the housing complex lost to me in court.

I am probably one of a hand full of people who while in the city of Fairfax VA up on rt 7 in tysons corner proved that an officer did not infact radar me for a moviing violation (turned out to be he did lie but I let that go even though it was obvious in the judges eyes).

I am probably one of a hand full of people who explained to the commanding officer at Millington TN that people returning from the fleet should not have to march to school with boot campers.... and rationally explained why to which it changed base policy.

I am probably one of a hand full of people who unloaded a timeshare in a legal manner back to the orignal seller based soley on perplexing evidence that the property was devalued on purpose in order to make room for asset allocation to the newest hottest "THE BOARDWALK" in VA Beach. Yep, i got rid of a time share and paid 250 bux to do it.
Many people cant figure out how i did this.

I am probably one of a hand full of people who proved to the state of wv that the state police forces you to only use a gun as a form of protection if a concealed weapons permit is issued. As off topic as this might seem, through all my calls, talks and face to face discussions, not one police officer had it ever dawn on them that a citizen would ever "want" to conseal a weapon other than a gun and therefore the law is writting to make anything else illegal. I just wanted to carry a knive exceeding the lenght of an ID card (blade length). Many people dont know that they could suffer consealed weapons charges stemming from other violations just because its another opportunity to charge for this infracton.

I am probably one of a hand full of people who knew years ago, our efforts in a certain middle east mountainous country wasnt about the people but about a drug we are very interested in,,suddenly getting traction in your news. too bad our best have died over a drug.

I am probably one of a hand full of people stupid enough to keep on typing. Im a fighter,, but as much of a lover if not crossed.

I was crossed and then so was my family, so consider it my little project that will get finished.

vinnie
A refund would be better, there were plenty of pm's on this then i gave up. just make good on it , old topic im tired of dealing with. no more dealing.

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Reply #39 – March 02, 2010, 03:00:01 AM

You seem as if you want honor?

Takes an honorable person, or place, in this instance, to give honor. You feel wronged, and most likely undeservedly so.
Yet, they have sent you a form letter or email, or whatever media it was in, basically apologizing to you for the matter.

They're not entitled to kiss your ass, nor post your picture as customer of the month, or something.

Now, if the cops had came in, cuffed and stuffed you, carted you off to the local calaboose for the night until you were found in the clear, then yes sir, I could understand you hollering for blood.

But it seems to me as if they made good to their highest obligation.

About the only thing you can do is post a letter to the editor in your local paper with the details of it, but then you (may) open yourself to a slander case.

Dude, you've won, WTF else is there to gain out of this?
I mean, you didn't get arrested, sure, you were called a thief in front of your family, basically, but hell, we've all had shiznit flung on us at one time or another...just sayin...there's times when ya hold 'em, and when ya fold 'em...

I don't mean ANY of my comments to you in a negative way, so please don't take them as such.

And to everybody else, what business is it of ours if he smokes?
If he drinks a beer once in awhile? Or whatever else he may do?
I ain't saying it's right, nor wrong, but it IS none of our business.
Sure sure he posted it in a more-or-less public forum, but it wasn't the guts of the story, it was a detail.
Some people don't like smoking. Drinking. Thunderbirds. Fords. Girls. Guns.
And who gives a shiznit? Does it affect your daily routines and rituals? If the answer is no, hit the back button right now.
If the answer is yes, re-read my last statement. Twice to be sure.

Don't be so f*cking self righteous and pushy. Nobody is perfect, and that includes all here, even myself.

And as far as that goes

Quote from: CougarSE

Seems as if the thread shiznitting is just as bad around here as always. *sigh*

Oh yes indeed, and probably worse than ever was...

Go gap some spark plugs or something people... :flip:

If that doesn't quite sink in, see my sig....it's something I said about 2 years ago, when I washed my hands of someone who I thought was very important. Of course, it can hold true for a lot of things, and it does...

Peace.

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Reply #40 – March 02, 2010, 04:32:47 AM

rerun,,

like i said before. I dropped the whole thing and ***manned up*** , even though a few seem to want to stir up my thread say i did not.
its in post 1, not my problem you made the mistake and overlooked it and decided to comment otherwise. matter of fact, everthing i keep repeating is in post 1.

the intent to take me to jail was as valid as them not doing so. Your example of slander is almost funny.

they could get me for "slander" but i cant do a darn thing about them ?

and let the record show, i have been civil so if the intent is to lock down this, then its not me fanning the flame.

thanks though for the honesty, no hard feelings on any comments. i am just over worked at repeating things over again cause people keep asking about stuff i clearly covered long ago.

oh yes,, and let me repeat,,, a robot apology was supplied via email. no formal email from any person ,,doesnt matter anymore though.

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Reply #41 – March 02, 2010, 09:55:31 AM

Ok... couple of things... and seriously, I am not trying to stir up shiznit.. but you can't seem to understand why I don't get what it is you are looking for out of this whole mess... I want you to see why it is that I don't get it.. you care contradicting yourself throughout this thread with several things you have said.
For example:

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If it stopped at the point where the manager did her job well enough, she would have caught this and an appoloy was fine.,,as it is now I might add.

But then, you say this:

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This would have all been over if i had been allow to do what it was I was promised. Come in and see the vidio for myself. Instead they are keeping me away from the regional manager and the recordings, nor will they resend on the fact the inventory was incorrect.

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Here you are indicating that it is not over because you weren't allowed to view the video and that they didn't say their inventory wasn't "off". Perhaps their inventory was still "off"... however, they realized you weren't the cause of it being 'off'...and they did apologize.

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I guess Karen what i am saying is that when the general public stop caring about small things,, the large things become small things. Then the next thing you know, your being walked all over and you become weak and incapable of getting up the gumption to defend yourself and something as old fashioned dare i say as "honor" if that is even a word anymore.

It doesnt surprise me that many dont understand what i mean. Its one thing to make a mistake,, but to have it doubly mistaken and impose restrictions on my freedom to come and go into a public place,,hell no. If i walked away as you likely would have,, you would have paid for product you didnt get,, and alway had to avoid that store and then finally arrive at what I did this weekend.

1. I certainly do know what honor is... you don't know me well enough to make that judgment.
2. I am not one to be walked all over, however, when someone makes a mistake and apologizes for it, I gracefully accept and move on... I don't continue to drag it out and try to make them go to court over BS stuff.
3.You didn't lose your freedom to go to a public place, except for what? 24 hours? After that the apology was made and you were again permitted to go there again... this is exactly what the place should have done had something been stolen. It happens all the time... if someone steals something, they are not permitted to go back to the establishment.
4. I would not have paid for a product I didn't get... Of course, I wasn't there for the situation, but from the tone of your replies here, I doubt I would have handled it in the same manner as you did.... like I said, I wasn't there, so I can only guess at that.

As I said, you are contradicting yourself by saying that an apology was fine (which was made), but then go on to say it wasn't enough.... or it wasn't done exactly how you wanted it done. You say you've made this into a "project"...which indicates you are spending a lot of time on it when you have supposedly already said the apology was fine.

And on top of that, you speak of honor... yet in the same thread you 'call out' Vinnie about parts from a year ago... this could have been handled privately. It seems Vinnie is willing to make good on his deal with you and I derive from that that had he gotten questions about it in PM he would have still made good on it. You decided to make it a public thing, seemingly only after he disagreed with you on this thread. There is no honor in that.

I give you credit for fighting for what you believe in... it just seems to me that there are times when you stress over things that are little and make them into big issues, then get upset when someone doesn't stand behind you on it...or when the faulting party doesn't do things exactly how you'd like them done, even though they have done something to correct the situation.

No offense is meant in this...I am simply explaining how you appear to me personally. I don't know you well enough to know for sure if what I observe is correct, it's hard to tell when you are just on a message board and don't know each other personally.

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Reply #42 – March 02, 2010, 04:11:08 PM

Hey Scott, Maybe they should put an apology up on a billboard for you. That way your honor will be put back, I said this to you before, you got way to much time on your hands. To petty over something as this. Get over it.

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Reply #43 – March 02, 2010, 05:38:40 PM

dont need to be a mind reader to see where this is going

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Reply #44 – March 02, 2010, 07:54:59 PM

karen
the mamager if she had done her job right the first time, an apology would have been fine,, as it it is now but as i stated i am not satisfied with it per my reply to the shell bot email. However, she had to do her job twice only upon my inssiting.

on hour 1,, i was accused.
on hour 24, i was verified as stealing and turned away with the wife and informed i would be arrested if i ever returned unless i settled the matter with the store I settled the matter,,and finishing it.

this is you part your prob missing. I wasnt allowed back in the store after 24hours. i was turned away and all goods we had were taken from us. Kinda wish i had not paid at the pump on my fuel, that would have sucked for them,,, yea like i would have gotten no charge for gas,,haha

upon my pushing the issue, the manager had to do her job a second time with her boss and her boss found the mistake.

I understand where your two quotes say i controdict myself,, lookes the same to me when i read it. I messed up something in there somewhere.

sorry

vinnie doesnt owe me parts,, he owes me nothing at all, its all good.