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1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #450
Good luck I hope the weather holds up for the projects if it rains you can always work on the bird
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]:ford:87 Turbo Coupe through the floor sub frame connectors, 5.8 swap Ford racing heads Harland sharp 1.6 rockers BBK shorty swap headers 2 1/2 BBk X pipe magnaflow ler's. Megasquirt 2 with 36lbs injectors on hurricane intake with 4150 throttle body.Tremec TKO 600 Quicktime blowsheild spec stage 3 clutch. 3.73 gears and still not done

project on hold

Reply #451
Bad news. I've noticed water exiting the tailpipe and was hoping it wasn't a problem, BUT........ I pulled the rad cap and found goo.

So I'm just gonna rip off the heads and go with some aluminum aftermarket ones. This will take a while since I need to save up for them first.

Pretty depressing.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #452
Ugh!  Bummer news.

You positive it's HG's?  I don't remember if you'd had the intakes off, and I know you haven't really run the engine all that much.  I'm sure you've thought about all of that, but just wanted to ask.
Long live the 4-eyes!  - '83 Tbird Turbo - '85 Marquis LTS - '86 LTD Wagon-  '81 Granada GL 2dr

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #453
Just something to consider if you would like to delay the purchase of new heads:  With stock heads and the turbo, you'll be at the limit of the block.  Add a good set of aftermarket heads and you'll need to focus on how to limit the power to what it'd put out with stock heads...

You may be better served by buying a good set of head gaskets & studs and make sure the heads are flat.

The work you've put in is amazing and I know I'm not the only one who's enjoyed the chronicle.  I'd hate to see you get snagged here and get pulled in another direction.  I know it's happened to me (not that I'd listen...).

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #454
Quote from: flylear45;361615
Bad news. I've noticed water exiting the tailpipe and was hoping it wasn't a problem, BUT........ I pulled the rad cap and found goo.

So I'm just gonna rip off the heads and go with some aluminum aftermarket ones. This will take a while since I need to save up for them first.

Pretty depressing.

 
Oh wtf man... I thought you were running with a 5.0 not a 3.8???:rollin:
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1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #455
You have put any serious boost to that engine yet have you?  What caused the HGs to go?

I would check your block for flatness before cranking on a new set of heads only to find out it was warped block to begin with.

A head gasket set is only $81.  Least that way you could be driving it while building funds those heads.  (that and I want to see running now :beatyoass:)
My car is a gravity hybrid.  The gasoline engine gets me up the hills, and gravity gets me down.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #456
Quote from: Chuck W;361616
Ugh!  Bummer news.

You positive it's HG's?  I don't remember if you'd had the intakes off, and I know you haven't really run the engine all that much.  I'm sure you've thought about all of that, but just wanted to ask.

 

Chuck,

No not POSITIVE yet. I may be missing something. I didn't bolt on the heads myself. That was done before I got the engine in 'rebuilt' condition.

I checked out the lower end and cam timing, all seemed well. I  did do something that may have contributed. I changed to head studs after the intake was on. I pulled and replaced one bolt at a time. Maybe that caused the leak condition.

At this point in time I can't go forward until I back up, though.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #457
Quote from: 86T-bird;361619
Just something to consider if you would like to delay the purchase of new heads:  With stock heads and the turbo, you'll be at the limit of the block.  Add a good set of aftermarket heads and you'll need to focus on how to limit the power to what it'd put out with stock heads...

You may be better served by buying a good set of head gaskets & studs and make sure the heads are flat.

The work you've put in is amazing and I know I'm not the only one who's enjoyed the chronicle.  I'd hate to see you get snagged here and get pulled in another direction.  I know it's happened to me (not that I'd listen...).
 
 True statement about the power capability. I have always planned to go to aftermarket heads. I'll be able to run lower boost to reach my goals with good heads. I just wanted to run it this way for a year first.

I am still mulling over what to do. I suppose I won't really know until I yank the heads. I have an extra set here rebuilt with valves and springs that a friend gave me in trade for my used GT40P heads. I'll check them for straightness and possibly go that route as a quicker solution.

I appreciate your input.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #458
Quote from: sarjxxx;361631
Oh wtf man... I thought you were running with a 5.0 not a 3.8???:rollin:

The only thing I have that runs is my trusty 2.3. LOL

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #459
Quote from: 88CougarGT;361634
You have put any serious boost to that engine yet have you?  What caused the HGs to go?

I would check your block for flatness before cranking on a new set of heads only to find out it was warped block to begin with.

A head gasket set is only $81.  Least that way you could be driving it while building funds those heads.  (that and I want to see running now :beatyoass:)

Nope. It hasn't seen an ounce of boost.

Good advice. I'll for sure check out the block and head surface really well when the heads come off.

I noticed the water out the tailpipe a few runs ago and have been dreading that there is a real problem here. It is one reason I've been dragging my feet a bit lately. It makes me a bit sick to think of undoing so much. I'll need to get it torn down soon, though. I will need to know what is up.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #460
I haven't cracked into the head issue yet, but pulled out the hood and tried to see if it fit. It will work if i cut back the inlet on the pass. side scoop after removing all the sound deadener and plastic from the turbo air inlet.

I also have enough clearance to go with TFS TW 170 heads in the future with a 3/8" spacer on the upper intake. That was why the hood went on now.

I feel better about a stop-gap solution at this point.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #461
Even if the repair is temporary it will be nice to see it run
:burnout:
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]:ford:87 Turbo Coupe through the floor sub frame connectors, 5.8 swap Ford racing heads Harland sharp 1.6 rockers BBK shorty swap headers 2 1/2 BBk X pipe magnaflow ler's. Megasquirt 2 with 36lbs injectors on hurricane intake with 4150 throttle body.Tremec TKO 600 Quicktime blowsheild spec stage 3 clutch. 3.73 gears and still not done

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #462
flylear, so sorry to hear that you might have HG issues.  Bummer!!!!!  Was the goo just on the Radiator cap?  How does the oil look?

I have been dragging my feet too.  Probably because it is too hot to work on the car right now.

But don't loose heart!  I'm counting on you to finish this thing. :)

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #463
Thanks for the support westie. I'll keep at it. Just taking a 'breather' right now.

Don't worry, Shredder! I got a  confidence little boost recently from an unexpected source.

A customer from my TR6 restoration days called up out of the blue. I haven't talked to him in 10 years at least. Did him a REAL nice Pimento red TR6 back in '95. He says to expect a call from a guy in Austin, TX who bought the car. Said he got an offer he couldn't refuse and the car is sold.

Well, the new owner calls last night. He wanted to thank me for building such a nice car! He said the paint is an 8 out of 10 after all these years, and he drove it 27 hrs. from Michigan to Texas without a hiccup. I went back into my old photo albums of all the cars I've done, and after a while I was feeling better about knocking this project out as well!

I just needed to step away for a bit is all.

1988 TC single Holset turbo 5.0/ 4R70W

Reply #464
Well congratulations on having TWO happy TR6 owners!  That was a nice shot in the proverbial arm.  Pls share pictures of the TR6 if you have some.

If you do have HG issues, just use your ready to run E7 heads for now.  Many guys have made great HP with a turbo on those heads.  Obviously, the more intake volume under the valve is better, but with boost, you will be surpised.

As you know, I plan to build my TC in stages, so I can at least DRIVE it for a little while between stages - to work out bugs and such.  With how in-depth your build is, I'd recommend the same approach.  But nice Aluminum heads would be nice! :)