Lincoln HO Conversion

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Lincoln HO Conversion

Reply #15 – May 18, 2009, 11:38:47 PM

Quote from: TurboCoupe50;272956

The Lincoln AOD is approx 1" longer than the Bird/Coug version, your D/S may be too long to use that tranny... ..

So should I use the regualr 5.0 tranny? Will it hold up to the extra power?

Quote from: massCougarxr7;272944

take it you went to that yard????? Itll be the best 180$ you can spend.......... you can also go the exploder route.......just a thought....

No I wasn't at the yard, I went to my Olds club meeting and there was a guy there driving an lsc that looked pretty rough. It only had 50k on the clock though. Is the exploror route using a whole explorer motor or then swaping the heads onto the HO? Whats better?

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Reply #16 – May 19, 2009, 12:25:16 AM

If the Lincoln is low mileage I believe I'd use that transmission... If your D/S is too long you can shorten the Lincoln tranny by swapping tail housings and tpuppies a little from the end of the shaft... Also note though, the shifter linkage will be different on the Lincoln tranny, you'll need to swap levers from the original transmission...

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Reply #17 – May 19, 2009, 02:42:02 AM

Quote from: danzajax;272913

WTF is an electric heated ball scratcher?

I was just referring to the amount of electric doo dads on the Lincoln vs the T-Bird. I looked at one of those harnesses at the JY when doing the TC/5.0 conversion and my eyeballs almost jumped outta my head when I started looking at the number of wires in the harness. It was almost as robust at the TC harness.

As for the wide ratio gear set in the AOD....I thought it was standard practice for Ford to install these in the LSCs. I could be dead wrong and probably am but my Alzheimers has not quite taken effect yet and I did read that some where....I'll see if I can find it.

Tom is right, I did forget that the tranny was longer....
X2 on toms post for tpuppies the output shaft and changing the tail shaft housing. If you have a functional AOD in your ride now....leave it. It's gonna be the same. BTW the 8.8 in the Lincoln LSC is gonna be a 3.23 Track-Lok unit.

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Reply #18 – May 19, 2009, 09:31:38 AM

Quote from: Lightningbird;273066

BTW the 8.8 in the Lincoln LSC is gonna be a 3.23 Track-Lok unit.

Not necessarily so, my LSC had a 3.23 open rear... Unlike the TCs, T-L was a option on those...

I believe all the LSC Mark IIX had the wide ratio tranny, but not the VII...

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Reply #19 – May 19, 2009, 02:29:32 PM

So there is no difference between the AOD in the bird and the LSC? I wouldn't want to blow the tranny because it doesn't have the same internals as in the one from the LSC.

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Reply #20 – May 19, 2009, 02:43:21 PM

Quote from: jpc647;273113

So there is no difference between the AOD in the bird and the LSC?

Tailshaft length, RPM rev-governor and PERHAPS the # of clutch disks in the trans and the number of teeth on the speedometer drive gear...

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Reply #21 – May 19, 2009, 04:15:16 PM

You will always be on borrowed time with a 3.8 trans. Even a 5.0 trans with ponys behind it, probably won't last long without some help.

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Reply #22 – May 19, 2009, 05:24:41 PM

Wanna respond to the engine route first....

If you have an H.O. definitely bolt the explorer intake and heads on....the explorer cam is garbage, the H.O. cam will work well with the other parts and give you plenty of power. Depends on the price of things I suppose. If you get the explorer motor as a whole it will be good but will be much better if you tear it down and throw in an H.O. cam.

And if you cant get say an AOD out of a 5.0 mustang (which would be the sturdiest one probably) make sure the trans is low-mileage and healthy overall, and get a Baumann RK-AOD shift kit, install it at the medium setting (or maxed out if youd like it to kick like a mule and bark tires all the time) setting and pull your TV cable out pretty tight for some snappy firm shifts and itll handle that motor okay. Im still at just H.O. spec but I drive this thing like a real u-know-what sometimes and the fluid has been cherry red for the last year and it hasnt lost *any* of its bite. I am a definite proponent of AOD's...ya just gotta help em out as previously stated. :D

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Reply #23 – May 19, 2009, 06:17:02 PM

AOD Specs from the 84 shop manual.

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Reply #24 – May 19, 2009, 06:23:15 PM

The 84 shop manual? That's really an old aod.

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Reply #25 – May 19, 2009, 06:49:10 PM

The 3.8 Super Coupe AODs are the strongest... Guess what I run???

There are some F/E series AODs that are also excellent, but those are the longer versions...

BTW the '87 shop manual lists 5 forward clutches and steels for all 5.0 SEFI(HO & SO) and 5.8 transmissions... In fact all '87 listings are same for 5.0 & 5.8 trannys, 3.8 trans have fewer clutches...

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Reply #26 – May 19, 2009, 08:00:38 PM

I have an '88 Cougar XR7, and i have already dropped the HO(from '89 MKVII) in it, i just have to wire everything up. When i started i assumed the wiring harness from the Cougar wouldnt work with the HO because of all the extra sensors.

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Reply #27 – May 19, 2009, 08:25:43 PM

A Mark VII engine has NO extra sensors... At most you'll find a sensor for the EATC system but that's also on some Birds and Cougs...

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Reply #28 – May 19, 2009, 11:24:52 PM

Quote from: TurboCoupe50;273162

The 3.8 Super Coupe AODs are the strongest... Guess what I run???

YES yes now I remember...knew there was something else. Interesting that is is stronger yet has fewer clutches.

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Reply #29 – May 20, 2009, 12:13:01 AM

The supercharged motors don't count in that picture of the AOD differences. I believe they have MORE clutches than the 5.0 AOD's (both mustang and tbird variants). Not sure which ones but they're there.