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leaving the 5.0 engine

Reply #75 –
I am all for alternative powerplant/drivetrain combinations in these cars. It opens up worlds of possibilities. Considering the Fox engine bay is almost perfectly sized for a majority of swaps, the consideration to try another engine and possibly even gain fuel economy is both responsible and commendable.

In this case, though, there are no immediate benefits in doing such a swap. The fuel economy won't be that much better than the current tuned-up engine. The cost to upgrade the entire vehicle to accept the new driveline wouldn't be recouped for many years, if ever. And I have a feeling that, if this engine is anything remotely like the 140cid turbo-4 used in these cars originally, there might be more time spent fixing things under the hood than driving on the street. And wasn't the the intent in the first place--to daily drive the car?

It's always fun to play with someone else's money. For that, I can see how visions of horsepower would pop into one's head. But this is a project that's best left to a second play toy...and with considerably more experience.

FWIW, the HO conversion would probably get the best bang for the buck. Roughly 210-220hp and slightly better fuel economy, as the HO cam was really ground for smoothness and economy and not so much raw power. It's a good blend, and considering the relative cost of the parts, and the fact that it could be done in a weekend...that makes for a fairly surprising daily driver that's fun to drive and, if you keep your foot out of it, not so bad at the gas pump.

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Reply #76 –
What happened to the original poster?:ford:

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Reply #77 –
Quote from: EricCoolCats;219027
I am all for alternative powerplant/drivetrain combinations in these cars. It opens up worlds of possibilities. Considering the Fox engine bay is almost perfectly sized for a majority of swaps, the consideration to try another engine and possibly even gain fuel economy is both responsible and commendable.

In this case, though, there are no immediate benefits in doing such a swap. The fuel economy won't be that much better than the current tuned-up engine. The cost to upgrade the entire vehicle to accept the new driveline wouldn't be recouped for many years, if ever. And I have a feeling that, if this engine is anything remotely like the 140cid turbo-4 used in these cars originally, there might be more time spent fixing things under the hood than driving on the street. And wasn't the the intent in the first place--to daily drive the car?

It's always fun to play with someone else's money. For that, I can see how visions of horsepower would pop into one's head. But this is a project that's best left to a second play toy...and with considerably more experience.

FWIW, the HO conversion would probably get the best bang for the buck. Roughly 210-220hp and slightly better fuel economy, as the HO cam was really ground for smoothness and economy and not so much raw power. It's a good blend, and considering the relative cost of the parts, and the fact that it could be done in a weekend...that makes for a fairly surprising daily driver that's fun to drive and, if you keep your foot out of it, not so bad at the gas pump.




I find it hard to keep my foot out of it though ahahhaha. Lights the tires up to easy to start off the fun pedal!!
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Reply #78 –
"What happened to the original poster?"

I think nap time was over and he had to go back and watch cartoons.....

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Reply #79 –
I can't find any posts where he's actually done anything to his engine, except get funding from his dad to anything he wants.

Seems to be all talk.

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Reply #80 –
He made another thread about how he was gonna do up a 350 RWHP windsor motor.  It kinda faded away.
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One more thing...

Reply #81 –
I can't let this go.  I have to reiterate what others have said here.  One would be hard pressed to spend $10K legitimately on a SBF motor.  You can buy crate engines, bundle-of-snake headers included, for turn-key GT40 replicas for less than that.

Lessee, custom Carillo rods, custom cast crank from a custom build foundry, custom Wiseco pistons (.214305784269541006 overbore exactly), gold-plated intake.  $9750?!  Dammit, what else can I do?  Oh I know, I'll buy this rare stamp and send a picture to the Fox Forum.
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Reply #82 –
lol,
Rare stamp
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Reply #83 –
Quote from: t3skidoo;219353
  Dammit, what else can I do?  Oh I know, I'll buy this rare stamp and send a picture to the Fox Forum.

OK, Brewster.... ;)
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Reply #84 –
Quote from: Prototype Services;219333
"What happened to the original poster?"

I think nap time was over and he had to go back and watch cartoons.....


:D :D

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Reply #85 –
I, personally, can tell you how to spend over $10K on a SBF. But for 99% of folks, it is never necessary.

I gotta go, mother says "Bullwinkle" is on......

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Reply #86 –
Hey, look, something different. Do it, but do it because it's a great idea, not to save money. That never happens when you're talking about working on a car. Your car is only going to get more expensive to own from here on out, no matter what motor you have in it. You'll have a lot of fun watching people  themselves when you pop the hood at local shows, though.

Someone made a good point about later maintenance. I had a '95 Tercel as a daily driver. It rarely broke, but only made 98hp. When it did brake, I found that Toyota gold plates every part on their engines. Somehow they rust all the same. I can buy five or six alternators for my TC for the same money that I was forced to spend on one for the Tercel. It was the same story for the Starter, special plugs, etc. Nothing is really cheap about puppiesanese cars.

Is this $5000 2jz an import, or did it come from an American Supra? The older the car in puppiesan, the higher the costs and penalties for driving it. People end up dumping their old cars for new much sooner than you'd see in North America. That's why you can buy a RHD 300ZX TT and have it shipped over the ocean for less than you can buy a LHD version for in your own town. (non JDM import owners are less than thrilled about that) There is a whole industry in relieving people in puppiesan of their expensive old cars and selling desirable JDM only models to North Americans.

But once you get your car, you're at the mercy of the auto parts stores, who will leaving you feeling like you were on the receiving end of some Godzilla lovin.

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Reply #87 –
Where did this kid go?

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Reply #88 –
His last forum activity was on the 14th...

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Reply #89 –
Quote from: kingcars;219972
His last forum activity was on the 14th...


Wonder if he's made any progress?:D