Plug & Play Megasquirt?

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Plug & Play Megasquirt?

March 31, 2008, 04:18:07 AM

Anybody heard anything on this?

http://www.bamafuel.com/catalog/index.php

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Are you ready for the future?
Welcome! You've reached the online catalog of BAMAFUEL, LLC. We build high quality fuel injection kits and complete bolt-on fuel injection systems. Our products are based on MegaSquirt, the fuel injection controller that is making waves in the automotive aftermarket. If you haven't heard of it before, where have you been hiding? This controller allows us to provide you fuel injection kits with a large number of powerful features at an unbeatable price.

If you are already familiar with MegaSquirt, you know that this controller has traditionally required that the installer have an above-average level of determination and be comfortable with wiring diagrams. Not anymore! Our kits are designed for easy installation and require no assembly or wiring. Just bolt it in and start tuning!

Currently, we have bolt-in kits available for all vehicles powered by the Ford 2.3 Turbo engine-- including the Mustang SVO, Thunderbird TurboCoupe, and Merkur XR4Ti. We also have kits available for the '86-'93 5.0L Mustang. Other products are in the works, including kits for '94-'95 Mustangs and '89-'93 Thunderbird Super Coupes. For more information and specifications, please feel free to browse through our catalog using the menu to the left.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to send an email to sales@bamafuel.com, and we'll get right back to you as quickly as possible. Thanks for stopping by!

And finally are they batch fire or multi port?

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Reply #1 – March 31, 2008, 09:10:58 AM

Bank Fire for V8.

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Reply #2 – March 31, 2008, 10:02:10 AM

Hmmm, email support only... doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy that they'll be there when Plug 'n' PLay doesn't.

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Reply #3 – March 31, 2008, 11:11:02 AM

Megasquirt isin't know for its support. Its open source so your very much on your own. That being said, the megatune software does look fairly user friendly.

I am considering getting a MS just to mess with on the Coug, but that will have to wait till after some other purchases. From what I have read, getting it up and running at a py idle is the biggest hurdle. Once it can idle, you can start tweaking small things to get it to run well. After that, its street tuning. Which, if you read the documentation, sounds kinda tricky.

Switching to a CFI+MS setup would probably simplify your life quite substantially.

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Reply #4 – March 31, 2008, 11:28:20 AM

this is true. the price you pay for MS doesn't fund support. this is why it's not for the novice; compared to something like painless efi which comes fully assembled and has support. You build MS, you wire it, you tune it. On the flip side, if you know what you're doing it leaves all those other systems in the dust...

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Reply #5 – March 31, 2008, 11:59:00 AM

I was looking at that for my old car looks good if you know how to bulid it.

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Reply #6 – March 31, 2008, 10:02:27 PM

Glens Garage (link in megasquirt) has turn key products.

You will get the complete wiring harness, simulator (to practice your settings), the MSII system. software and laptop interface connector.

The ****WHOLE**** MSII systems backbone is the O2 sensor and it will act as the fuel ratio manager.

sensors you need after MSII
TPS
ACT
ECT
MAP
O2
dizzy TFI/stator
Injectors (fires 4 at a time at an efficient PWM ratio based on 02 readings),, i suppose here is where you best know your settings pror to using it or you will foul your o2 readings from running too rich. ,,hence the reason for my wanting the simulator.

I am working with them currently on my TFI application but,,,,,,it appears i have lost touch. I was hopeful to have the simulator by now so i could practice my stoich settings and such. I just called Glen and gpt his home voice mail so if something does not happen in the next week or so, ill have to go with another vendor of MSII.

Also, Glen did say that this system could be modified to build in a DIS system vs doing TFI which was interesting.

The whole package was under 400 bux.

Now, i have no idea where my emails stand with this vendor but the next week or so may yield an update.

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Reply #7 – March 31, 2008, 10:13:05 PM

I have a MS1 on the Tbird built for TFI and will be converting it to DIS this season (wanted to have the car back on the road before I got into it).
Did any 5.0's come with DIS? This is different than EDIS. DIS and TFI use the same input/output signals, while the EDIS is different. The EDIS and DIS also use different crank sensors/rings.

I used Glen's for most of my stuff when I did mine, but I hear alot of times that he gets behind these days, or is slow to follow up.

I have a couple more I want to build, but not sure who I'll buy parts from. I'll be building mine, so I have no need for "turn-key". I built the first as my very first electronics project, and I have no problem doing it again.

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Reply #8 – April 01, 2008, 12:05:55 AM

Quote from: Chuck W;211896

I have a couple more I want to build, but not sure who I'll buy parts from. I'll be building mine, so I have no need for "turn-key". I built the first as my very first electronics project, and I have no problem doing it again.

This is where you are miles ahead of me. I hope you can lend me an ear when i get this going.

Glen is behind, just got an email response from him by my calling a little while ago.

He says that DIS is not a difficult add on to the MS system, but i think it was for the MSII if i am correct.

My white coug is going to get these parts.
First i need to install all the stuff i got off of tom and make it a normal 5.0 running motor,, still lacking the wiring harness.
after all that is working, I will start the MS conversion.

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Reply #9 – April 01, 2008, 07:25:24 AM

Well that is what I asked....were any 5.0 ever available with DIS? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. If not, the trick will be finding the crank pulley with the proper hub to make it work. With EDIS you can add a 60-1 trigger wheel to just about any crank pulley, DIS doe not use that type.

DIS/TFI is not a difficult add to either MS1 or MS2. It is a different configuration if you want to do EDIS.

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Reply #10 – April 01, 2008, 07:35:31 AM

My interest was in this particular unit:

http://www.bamafuel.com/catalog/bolt-in-controller-kits/-39-86-39-93-5-0l-mustang/prod_7.html

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This kit is designed to bolt right in to your '86-'93 5.0L Ford Mustang. This kit uses your stock coolant and air temperature sensors, and supports low impedance injectors. Out of the box, it can handle up to 24 psi of boost from a turbo or supercharger; if you need more, you can add a 4 bar MAP sensor which is good for up to 44 psi. This kit also eliminates the need for a mass airflow meter.
Price:
$599.99

The 4 bar MAP sensor is an additional $40.

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Reply #11 – April 01, 2008, 08:06:05 AM

That is just a "std" unit configured for a Ford with TFI, and most likely for the Ford sensors.

Nothing fancy, just all packaged in a nice drop in set-up. IIRC there is even a base tune installed on it, so getting it running isn't as big of a concern, and all that is left is to tune.

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Reply #12 – April 01, 2008, 08:15:39 AM

Even for what I have planned, it probably aint worth it.....

Maybe to get thevery last little bit out of it, but You'd still need a wideband and a proper dynotune on a EEC-IV setup can find hidden power too...

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Reply #13 – April 01, 2008, 09:03:40 AM

I cant think of any 5.0 with dis. The closest relative would be the 4.2 but that coil pack was just that, a single six pack.

Maybe a 4cyl engine DISx2 would be more applicable.

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Reply #14 – April 01, 2008, 09:37:49 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Explorer 5.0's have DIS for several years before they were killed off?

I was thinking about getting Megasquirt for my bird, but I'm not real confident with electronics.