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Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #30 –
The argument was that the conversion to liters is unregulated, and so the liters listed for an engine hardly ever equal out to the CC's or CI's. Hence Ford's fuzzy math. Basically a "5.0L" making 490HP isn't 100HP/L, but it is making 1.6225HP/ci. A 490HP Chevy "4.9L" is 100HP/L, but is only 1.6066HP/ci. The Ford would actually be the more impressive engine, but because of liter discrepancy it looks worse. So measure in HP/cc or HP/ci where they have to be truthful (GM 396-402 notwithstanding...).

I agree 100% that the Viper was not everything it could be. My grandfather actually owned a Prowler (Black with no bumpers, I don't understand why that car got knocked, it was really nice) and so we got to do some fun stuff with Dodge right around the time the "new" Viper came out. We went to Daytona International Speedway and got to go for autocross rides in the then-new SRT4 and the then-new 500HP SRT10 Viper Vert. The SRT4's were smoking the Vipers and I remember feeling why on earth would anyone race the Viper when the under-$20K Neon was outdriving it and not having any problems (the Viper's brakes were all going out).

I really wish all cars made 1HP/ci at least. My 'Vic would be 281HP instead of 239 (it's OK, I fixed it ;) )

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #31 –
I agree with everything you said there. :) We'll call it HP/Vol. to be more accurate, but we are saying the same thing.

I've got to ask, though. Does anyone ever call the 305 a 4.9? I've always heard it as Ford's 5.0L and GM's 5.0L. (and it's a bigger motor, so why would anyone call it by a smaller Literage? It would make more sense for both to be 4.9's or at least the Ford. Neither make 5.0L exactly, but the 305 is 4.998L [to Ford's 4.948L]. I'd call that 5.0)

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #32 –
GM literature called it a 4.9L. It's just the only one I can think of this morning, but there's tons of them like that, especially with smaller motors.

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #33 –
If GM literature called it a 4.9 then why is 5.0L cast into the back of the later model 305 blocks?
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Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #34 –
Cause they stopped making the 5.0L 307 ;)

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #35 –
Quote from: P71;204138
Cause they stopped making the 5.0L 307 ;)


Ah! Now the 4.9 thing makes some sense.

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #36 –
Quote from: oldraven;204139
Ah! Now the 4.9 thing makes some sense.


But Ford's 5.0 still doesn't :hick:

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #37 –
Quote from: P71;204166
But Ford's 5.0 still doesn't :hick:


It would if they had built a 301. :D

Is the Viper going to be put to Pasture?

Reply #38 –
Quote from: P71;204138
Cause they stopped making the 5.0L 307 ;)


And that sucks as a 307 large journal crank in a 350 block with 5.7 rods allows you to use 327 pistons.  Instant large journal 327 :hick:
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