Time for a T5

July 22, 2006, 12:54:19 AM

Hey, me again. Was wondering how much time and money would be involded in putting in a T5. I have read the CC on it. Just was what peoples experiences were?

Thanks a bunch

Daniel

Time for a T5

Reply #1 – July 22, 2006, 10:51:55 AM

Its a 100% bolt in afair.... if you have an H pipe and not the factory Y pipe.

Time for a T5

Reply #2 – July 22, 2006, 10:59:55 AM

Claude, how hard would it be to put one in mine?

Time for a T5

Reply #3 – July 22, 2006, 09:07:13 PM

very easy swap if you have are used to working with tools/on cars and VERY worth the pay off....check out the T5 swap section in coolcats. Eric has it all pretty well layed out for us....good stuff

Time for a T5

Reply #4 – July 22, 2006, 11:18:36 PM

Aside from the exhaust difference between a fox cat/bird and a mustink its 100% bolt in..

Only thing I can see as a slight maybe, maybe not problem would be for the 83 84 cars. with the different dash and all. Maybe... just maybe the pedals are different? Maybe Chuck or some one else with an early fox could help out here......

I'm guessing that they are not though... My pedals came out of an 86 mustang with the early stang dash... and they are the same as the pedals in a stang all the way up to 93. I'm sure the early fox cat/bird would be capable of using pedals out of a mustang or ~86 TC/XR7.

Now something else I don't understand here. On my car it is very hard to get to the shifter bolts... they are very close to the front of the sheetmetal housing under the dust boot.

My setup is as close to stock as could be, Jim (8birdy8) and I pulled the sheetmetel dust cover support thing out of 5 speed TC at pick n pull. It is in the correct spot and I know this because the floor pan is dimpled where the screws go.

Now these front shifter bolts are almost difficult to access and my transmission is 3/4" longer because of the unit being of the sn-95 variety. I couldn't imagine trying to change the shifter with a fox tranny in there. This makes me wonder if maybe the bellhousing/block is further forward in a v6 car than a 4cyl car. Shouldn't be because of the interchangeability in the driveshaft. But it does make one wonder....

Could we get some pictures of a TC in here with the dust boot removed? To see how hard the shifter bolts are to get too? For comparison I can take my 13mm socket with it on a 8" extension and put the ratchet on and it all clears the dash. Its close but its freaking close.. Like 1mm away from the sheetmetal but it clears... I've heard horrer stories but I'm wanting to make sure.

What I'm getting at? Maybe for future v6 and v8 T-5 swappers the SN-95 trannies are the better units to use?

So I want some one to tell me if they can use a ratchet wrench on there front shifter bolts on both a TC and a v8 car with a FOX tranny or do you have to use a combination wrench to remove those bolts? But then again this would only pertain to someone who has either converted a sport/xr7 that already had the floor shifter or a TC owner.

Now if someone isn't understanding what I'm talking about with this "box" under the dust boot, well its a simple support that both the inner dust boot and/or auto floor shifter sit on. From the factory it looks like a rather large hole is cut out and a formed piece is screwed to the floor pan over the shifter opening.

And another variable here. Is the hole the same shape between an auto floor shifter car and a 5 speed? I think it is. I do know of an auto floor shift car at a local junkyard that has the console and dash out so I can get a good look, so I'll be doing that bit of research unless someone already knows this.

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Reply #5 – July 26, 2006, 12:14:40 AM

Eric has the hole size template and location on his site. I tried to use it but I must of measured wrong or had the wrong scale template because my hole was off by about an inch so it ended up being a little bigger than it needed to be. I recently got a lower shift boot and screwed it with six screws directly to the floor pan. I didn't notice that support around the shifter hole on the car I took it from, it was an 85 TC. Those shifter bolts are usually hard to get to. I know on my toyota truck I had to take a lot of time with a box end wrench and turn them a tiny bit at a time. I don't have that prob on my 85 t-bird though since my hole is extra big.

Jason.