Memories...... Reply #15 – December 10, 2005, 05:14:15 PM True enough, most late 70's Firebirds were gutless, but the T/A 6.6 models (the 400 Pontiacs) had 220 HP. Not ground shaking, but quite respectable for the day. Mine, however, had a 325HP LT1 from a '70 Vette. Combine that with the fact that it weiged about half as much as a normal Firebird (no options, no carpet, no insulation, and of course, no quarter panels, no floor, no lers :D the back half was pretty much rusted away, hence the $600 price) - ol' Bertha, as I called her due to her ugliness, was very, very fast. I still don't know what ever possessed my father to let me buy that...I can still remember having saved up the money to buy a car and my father circled a bunch of car ads in the paper that he thought I should look at: Chevettes, Escorts, Omnis, Citations - nice, sensible cars for a 16 year old. I ignored 'em and looked at proper cars: Monte Carlos, Camaros, Firebirds, Mustangs, Cutlasses, etc (Fox Thunderbirds/Cougars were still fairly new in 1989 and therefore quite out of my price range). I had the ugliest and fastest car of any of my friends or classmates. I loved the car so much I bought another Firebird when Bertha was no longer road legal. The next one was a 1980 Formula with a pristine white/blue body and blue velour interior, but the 301 was enough to make me hate the car no matter how pretty it was. I sold that one and bought my first Thunderbird, a 1985 light sage green/grey interior V6 2bbl no-option car. V6 or not it was faster than the 301 Firebird, and that car started my love affair for these things... Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #16 – December 10, 2005, 05:58:59 PM Quote but the T/A 6.6 models (the 400 Pontiacs) had 220 HP Some of those had 403 olds motors in them. Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #17 – December 10, 2005, 07:14:48 PM i still have my very first car....its a 66 chevelle and its in my garage devistated with parts strung all over..... because my dad was an ass and tore it apart........then left us.... ill have to snap a pic or two......second car........the foxus-maximusthird is going to be a new addition.... a 84 Cuttlass with a 350heres the pics....... be prepared.....there ugly Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #18 – December 10, 2005, 07:26:49 PM Quote from: Thunder ChickenTrue enough, most late 70's Firebirds were gutless, but the T/A 6.6 models (the 400 Pontiacs) had 220 HP. Not ground shaking, but quite respectable for the day. Mine, however, had a 325HP LT1 from a '70 Vette. Combine that with the fact that it weiged about half as much as a normal Firebird (no options, no carpet, no insulation, and of course, no quarter panels, no floor, no lers :D the back half was pretty much rusted away, hence the $600 price) - ol' Bertha, as I called her due to her ugliness, was very, very fast. I still don't know what ever possessed my father to let me buy that...WOWMuch better than my first car: 86 T-Bird "Canadian Special" carbbed V6, no options except AC and cruise. However it did run 300,000km on origional head gaskets! Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #19 – December 10, 2005, 07:29:06 PM Quote from: CougarSESome of those had 403 olds motors in them.The ones that said "T/A 6.6" on the shaker were the Pontiac 400. The ones that said "6.6 litre" were Oldsmobile 403's. The ones that said "Trans Am" were 301's. At least I seem to remember reading something like that. My car originally had the 301.QuoteHowever it did run 300,000km on origional head gaskets!Mine had 270k on it when I traded it in on a '91 V6 'Bird. The '85 was a much better car. I don't think the carbed 3.8's had the head gasket problem of the later EFI models Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #20 – December 10, 2005, 08:59:28 PM Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJacki still have my very first car....its a 66 chevelle and its in my garage devistated with parts strung all over..... because my dad was an ass and tore it apart........then left us.... ill have to snap a pic or two......second car........the foxus-maximusthird is going to be a new addition.... a 84 Cuttlass with a 350heres the pics....... be prepared.....there uglythats always something nice to have stashed away Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #21 – December 10, 2005, 09:02:38 PM yeah man... now i keep trowing more projects into the mix and never have time for it...... im gonna keep it until im out of college then im gonna start dumping money into it Quote Selected
Memories...... Reply #22 – December 10, 2005, 10:13:44 PM Hey, I've got one of those two! Mine is my 73 nova in its current condition. Only reason this garage door was opened was because my girl jamie wanted a pic of me sitting in it like this. Notice that shagY TPI setup and the wiring mess on top of it! Quote Selected