With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

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With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

October 10, 2005, 09:34:10 PM

...And no, I'm not whining about getting a ticket.

I'm whining about what happened here Sunday morning. At about 7:45AM I was awakened to a pounding at the door. I got out of bed and answered the door and found a friend of my sister's (who had recently moved to the neighbourhood) standing there in her sock feet, in the pouring rain, and BEAT ALL TO HELL. It seems her crack-head ex boyfriend decided to break into her house through the night, and when she arrived home from her sister's, he was in her house waiting for her. He was gooned up on crack and beat the living shiznit out of her. He then passed out and she snuck out the back door and came over to my house (a short trio though a foot path).

So I call 9-11 and soon enough two cop cars show up. The first thing this beaten woman said was "Go over to my house and see if he's still there. If my car's gone, he's gone". The cop said "Don't worry about your car". She tried to explain that she wasn't worried about the car, she was worried about him getting away. Again he said "Don't worry about your car. We're more concerned with your safety" and started getting very rude with her. I told the cop "Listen, she doesn't give a shiznit about the car, and she's in no danger over here with you guys present. She just doesn't want him to get away". He said "We have to take a statement from her before we can go get him".

Bullshiznit. They have every right to hold a violent suspect while the victim is making a statement. They can place him under arrest for 24 hours without laying charges. Imagine if a bank was robbed and the cops weren't allowed to arrest the robber until the bank teller filled out a reoprt!!!

Anyway, the other cop, who could sense that both I and this woman were getting very angry with the rude cop, told the rude cop to go away and he'd take the statement. He then radioed to the other cars that were on the other street, outside her house, and told them to go in and get him (the car, as it turned out, was still there).

As he was taking her statement, the radio cackled: "We've checked the house, he's not here - do you want us to lock the door when we leave?"

The woman said "If the car's there he's there. He has no other way of leaving." The cop repeated this into his radio and the cop on the other end said "we've searched the house from top to bottom. He's gone". The cop at my house told them to stay there until he got there. They finished up the statement and went over to her house.

When they got there this woman insisted that the police come into her house with her just long enough to get her keys so she could go to her mother's - she was convinced that he was in the house. The police were very reluctant, but finally they relented and escorted her into the house, just to shut her up.

She went in, went straight to her bedroom, got on her knees, and there he was, under the bed. A stoned, violent criminal that the police insisted was not in the house, was indeed in the house, in probably the most likely hiding place IN the house. Under the goded bed. She screamed, the cops came running, and after a brief struggle the asshole was put under arrest and tossed into a cop car.

Now then, I must point out that this is not a large house. It is not a house with dozens of rooms, cubbyholes, and secret tunnels. It is simply a half duplex with a livingroom, kitchen, dining room, bathroom and three bedrooms. Being of low income she does not have a lot of furniture. There are not a lot of places to hide in a house like this. The police, who claimed to have searched the whole house, who told her that the house was safe to enter, who at first refused to even escort her into the house and only finally did because she insisted so much, did not even look under the goded bed. They would have sent her into the house with the violent criminal inside.

One can only imagine what would have happened if she had entered the house alone and the police had left. I'm relatively certain this woman would be dead, if not at least hospitalized. All because out of eight cops with four cop cars nobody thought to look under the bed. Luckily this woman had more sense than they did.

I told her she should file a complaint, both against the very ignorant cop she talked to at my place and against all of the cops who told her that house was safe to go into. There is no excuse for this. These are supposely highly trained RCMP officers who are supposed to be able to out-think criminals. That criminal probably could not believe it himself when those cops left that house without finding him. The only reason I can think of for the behavious of these police officers is that it was just before 8:00 AM and they were ready to punch out for the day. Why else would they be so sloppy?

Anyway, I am thoroughly disgusted at the whole situation. Luckily this woman was not hurt (again), but no thanks to the good folks at the Lower Sackville RCMP...

With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

Reply #1 – October 10, 2005, 09:49:44 PM

Yeah reminds me of when I got pulled over cause a cop said that he saw me picking up drugs. He asked if he could search the car and I asked him for a warrent first so he tells me to get out of the car so that "things dont get ugly". So I do he searches the car and asks me why I have rear veiw mirror glue in the car. I tell him it was for the mirror and he says, your lucky that I didnt find the sock that you were huffing or you woud be in jail right now. Honestly I like cops. They are really good people most of the time, but sometime you just wanna kill em.

With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

Reply #2 – October 10, 2005, 10:13:26 PM

this is why when i see a cop i dont even let them have one reason to talk to me becuase i know im doing nothing wrong but if i get a bad cop bad things can happen that i dont need to deal with.

im happy to see they did get him and she is fine but yea i would be just as pissed as you are if that happened to me

With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

Reply #3 – October 10, 2005, 10:35:44 PM

You know, I genuinely feel bad for posting in this.. because I do have some measure of respect for not only Paul, but a few cops I'm either friends with, or friends-of-family with.. but the average cop is a f'n idiot who probably joined more to avenge all the fat-kid jokes in high school than for any real desire to uphold the law in a fair and just manner. The quality of law enforcement can vary wildly. My own example follows. (LONG paragraph)

A former close friend.. a man I thought of as almost a brother.. (I'm an only child, what can I say, I have no real measuring stick) one night at karaoke got jealous over his fiance smoking pot with some other guy in the parking lot, (which was stupid, she adored him and wouldn't screw around on him.. but he's very insecure) and proceeded to push her into the guy's Firebird, which she bounced off and landed in a rather large fire ant pile. Needless to say, I was furious with him, and genuinely concerned for her. Well the first police to show up were the Sunrise police dep't.. who promptly demanded that I leave, when all I was doing was looking after the victim. I literally had to be restrained (by another friend who was a bouncer in a metal-bar) from attacking the officer in question. I even went after the guy, and only didn't get him because my friend latched onto me and stopped it. So what options were we left? Taking my now far-from-close friend back to their shared apartment to get his shiznit out and go. He's whining in the back of my car the whole time about how I didn't know the whole story, blah blah blah, usual shiznit.. and me still pissed off from both his actions and the cop's response, I lock up the brakes on my Escort in the middle of an intersection and grab him by the throat and tell him to shut up.. and then a few minutes later in their apartment complex, I throw the seat latch and spin around and proceed to beat the shiznit out of him for what he did.. think I broke his nose and everything. (and lest you think I'm a violent person, this incident was only the second time ever I attacked another human being without personal provocation.. the other incident also being over a guy hitting a woman [mine, in that case]) Anyway, my "friend" pulls this drama-queen about wanting to stab himself over it, we wrestle him down from it, I end up out in the parking lot shirtless (too much blood and what not on my shirt) when another police dep't arrives. We explain everything.. the other cops say "Yeah, Sunrise cops are total assholes" and we finish the night without further incident. Next day I end up taking his sorry ass to a new apartment, broken nose and all, and didn't speak to him again for months. But what sticks in my memory the most was the reaction of the first cop, telling me to get lost when all I'm trying to do is be the ONE person on scene who had a chance of comforting the victim.. (whom I also considered a close friend at the time) I honestly think I would've tried to kill him for it.. I was THAT angry. The scene was almost comical, my big metal bar bouncer friend holding me in place so you could see my hateful stare (I think the cop started reaching for his stick) and my hands twitching, as my feet shuffled in place because I couldn't move forward to kill this idiot cop for his stupidity.

shiznit needs to be changed.. the cops are supposed to be there for us, with our support.. not this adversarial .

Sorry if this is long and rambling.. but I'm pretty beat up tonight and this set me off bigtime. (no, not literally.. just stupid work shiznit)

EDIT: I still feel kinda embarrassed mentioning getting to that level of violence, no matter how justified I felt it was at the time.

With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

Reply #4 – October 11, 2005, 09:28:21 AM

I take no offense at all to what you guys have posted. Cops are human too and that means they sometimes make mistakes and some unfortunately act in ways that give a bad name to those of us who would never act in such a manner......

TC, as far as your lady friend is concerned her incident would be classified as a Domestic Incident down here. NYS doesn't take too kindly to an officer that botches a Domestic Incident up.

With all due respect, Paul, police can really suck sometimes

Reply #5 – October 11, 2005, 10:51:08 AM

Quote from: Paul Flockhart

I take no offense at all to what you guys have posted. Cops are human too and that means they sometimes make mistakes and some unfortunately act in ways that give a bad name to those of us who would never act in such a manner......

Which I'm sure is how every decent cop in New Orleans is feeling right now.