piece of $*^# car July 24, 2005, 07:47:22 PM well hear is another reason besides the drive shaft that im not at cat jam...the sn-95 springs i ordered from H&R droped my GD car so low the front wheels are supporting the fender pannles... the front springs look so compressed their useless...i dont get it... my car weighed in at 3460 last time and the springs say their for a 94-95 v8 mustang that adverage 34-3500# even without the battery or me sitting in the car, its still laying on the fenders. not to mension the new control arms i got (same length as origionals) redesigned cobra new bushing bla bla bla are to long now apairently with the wheels im using because as you can see with the picture even with the fenders pulled all the way out its LAYING on em...im so $@%# pissed i dont know what to do, i know im probley going to have to buy #@%$ new a-arms AGAIN, and new springs for the front AGAIN. but that still dosnt solve the spring problem. i looked everywhere and all the springs are basicaly the same, how do you people have lowering springs in your cars that are sopposed to be lower and not have any problems?if it wasnt for the fact that the front wheels drag so bad i would have drug this POS car to the s yard and gott'n my 25$ in s metal for it. iv just about had it if i dont find out what to do i will... Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #2 – July 24, 2005, 09:38:24 PM Holy , that's LOW! Maybe if you took the engine out it would sit right?Joking apart, I can't imagine why that car would sit like that, unless they shipped you the wrong springs or something... Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #3 – July 24, 2005, 10:35:36 PM , your car looks like a Honda!Anyway, I always heard that stock SN95 springs would lower the car just as they were, so I guess lowering springs are a bad idea. Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #4 – July 24, 2005, 11:28:01 PM You could buy some spacers they sell like at autozone the goes in the coils of the spring to lift it 1/2 and inch or more if you need it. Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #5 – July 24, 2005, 11:41:29 PM spacers that wedge between coils are a bad idea, fly out and hurt someone or something... stock sn-95 springs raise a car about an inch. this sucks, i just blew like 500 on that stuff and its all trash. im going to have to order mustang control arms, probley new struts and find new front springs... at least i got the adjustable lowers... im going to ask jc whitney if they still have the fronts for our cars as i seem to rember they had them, but not the rears...even if i do raise the car, i think im still screwed as to the wheel hitting the fender edge on bumps, as per red arrow and orange circle. is this my wheel offset to blame for the added width? because my control arms are the same dimensions as the old ones, mounting points and all. im about ready to beat the hell out of my fenders before replaceing my ctrl arms. this sucks.Any Suggestions Are Welcomeim at my end hear with this, expecialy with the fact that the arc motion of the wheels shown by the red arrow, and is everyones wheel like mine when lowered circled in orange? is this why people roll their fenders? because i looked and it dosnt look like ill have any kind of room their to make things work without replaceing everything. Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #6 – July 25, 2005, 02:03:11 AM Sent you a PM on this as well:What I would do is this:If you don't have them already, use urethane spring isolators instead of the stockers....they don't compress as much and will help slightly to get the height up. You can safely raise the car up by making some spring shims out of some 1/4" plate....aluminum would be my choice because it's easy to cut. Simply use the upper spring isloator as a template, cut it out and place it on top of the isolator between it and the spring perch of the K-Member. That should raise the front close to 1/2". I had to do this on mine after I swapped in the V8 as it dropped a bit due to the extra weight and it did the trick perfectly. You could even go a little thicker if need be as the spring retainer that the spring sits in on the K-Member has enough depth to it to keep it all in place. Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #7 – July 25, 2005, 04:33:47 AM What lower control arms do you have on there? If you don't have fox (maybe other years) mustang lower control arms they could help get the wheel away from the fender. Then a little rolling of your lip and your set......Now ride is a whole other issue. How come the springs have compressed so much? Maybe they did ship wrong springs, possibly V6? The lowest I have gotten my car is with the suspension technique springs and I still have a 2.5-3 finger gap. I actually want it be less than a single finger gap or even slightly tuck into the wheel well, as long as I could do and it still be driveable (i.e. roling fender lip). SOrry about the set backs. Good luck to you. BryanEdit: Looking at the pictures some more, I really like the way the front sits. If you don't have the shorter mustang LCAs then maybe thats all you need. Where did you get the springs, how much were they, and do you know the pound rating on them? Does anyone else know if the coils are compressing like they should or is something wrong there. Depending on the spring specs, let me know if you are going to ditch the springs. Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #8 – July 25, 2005, 08:41:44 AM Quote from: bdulyEdit: Looking at the pictures some more, I really like the way the front sits. If you don't have the shorter mustang LCAs then maybe thats all you need. Where did you get the springs, how much were they, and do you know the pound rating on them? Does anyone else know if the coils are compressing like they should or is something wrong there. Depending on the spring specs, let me know if you are going to ditch the springs.The springs are sitting right. They are progressive rates. My buddy has some on his Fox Stang and it does look weird with the coils sitting on top of one another like that, but that's the way they are. His is lowered like that as well, I can't even stick my fingers between the fender and the tire. Manson, I would just do one step at a time right now. Start by raising your ride height like what Hawk described above. Then get it aligned and you may not even have to buy anything else... assuming you have C/C Plates, yes? At the most, I see you may have to get new control arms, I know they are a pain but trust me they get easier with practice. But who knows, you may not even have to go down there again. :) Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #9 – July 25, 2005, 02:30:07 PM i think having lowering springs on our cars there's a trade off cause i had a set of motorsport 5300-D on once and they made the car look awesome and the handling is much improved...but only on flat terrain...then when you hit a bump or pothole your gonna feel it..i think eibach made a set for our cars as well.but i think they were discountinued..so springs in my opinion are not for everyone..its a trial and error experience id say....also the same was when i had them, the front fenders looked like they were rubbing as well...but they didnt... Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #10 – July 25, 2005, 02:56:56 PM I just replaced the 1987-88 Turbo Coupe springs in the convertible with the stock springs. Like you, I loved the look of the car dropped down, but had serious issues with the inner fender lip rubbing the tire. Now it's back to being normal again...no bottoming out anymore. From my experience, I cannot recommend TC springs. They were too much of a hassle for the look.Part of the problem is that no definitive answer exists for how to lower these cars properly. It is trial and error. After my experience I'd *almost* recommend heating the stock ones with a torch... Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #11 – July 25, 2005, 03:21:41 PM is there any chance that you could outline the tire, or get a brighter pic? Is it only the fronts that are hitting the fender? Sounds like mustang control arms. Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #12 – July 29, 2005, 04:39:09 PM Quotestock sn-95 springs raise a car about an inch. ahhh, actually no. here is a couple pics of my 20th with stock '95 V6 Mustang springs on the front, and '87 GT springs in back. They lowered the front at least an inch and a half. :D Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #13 – August 10, 2005, 06:15:52 PM Say, did you ever find a solution? :) Quote Selected
Re: piece of $*^# car Reply #14 – August 10, 2005, 10:28:05 PM yeah..cause if the arms you bought are 3075-*d arms im just about to buy some...id like to know what the deal is on them. what year spindle did you use? Quote Selected
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