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wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

My buddies girlfriend lost her car this past week from a hit skip. A guy rode her bumper and tapped it on a snowy on ramp. It was a high ramp with no barrier, car spun off the road, midair, landed front corner onto a concrete water thing.

Good thing is shes fine minus a few scratches. Car was a total loss (they cut the door off, ouch!) My buddy is pulling the drivetrain and junking it, he has dibbs on the 4.6 and trans (maybe a ranger 4.6 project?) who knows.

I would like to stuff the 8.8 disc rear and front spindle(s) under my 88 tbird. I know the sn95 8.8 is .25 longer on each side, but if I get the matching spindles, will the tires line up .25 inches out?

Also, its an '03. most of the info on here says to hunt down a 95-96 setup... differences?

with the new spindles, do I really need sn-95 struts? I know (read) i need the ball joints because the fox ones are too big.

Im pretty sure i'll only get the driver side off the car, then buy the passenger side stuff (thats where the nose is bent up)

Im not in a real hurry to do the swap itself, I came home this weekend to help him tear it down, so if i want dibbs on anything I need to know what i need lol.

I would offer to buy his bullit rims until I find my cobras, but im pretty sure the front ones are messed up.

Lemme know guys


(where hes standing is the angle the car came from to hit the concrete)


1988 T-Bird LX- Awaiting HO build, Monster "Eat My Shift" AOD rated 550Hp. BBK ceramic shorties, Jegs mustang (catless) H-Pipe. mustang catback modified axle back for tbird, 94 17" Cobra wheels, 98 'Stang GT 8.8 Traction-lock

wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

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Good thing is shes fine minus a few scratches. Car was a total loss (they cut the door off, ouch!) My buddy is pulling the drivetrain and junking it, he has dibbs on the 4.6 and trans (maybe a ranger 4.6 project?) who knows.
For his own sake, make sure he yanks the entire harness coming from the computer, through the firewall to the fan, as well as the ccrm, and engine/trans harness. Also the inst. cluster, keys, key cyl, and the PATS module (by the key cyl, chip/connector with the green clip marked fcc or whatever). as well as the trunk and door locks, that way its all complete.
He can make a little money on the center console, hydroboost, and other smaller items.

For you I'd puppies the whole front suspension, brakes etc, rear diff, brakes etc, wheels if you can and that's prob it. I guess you might want the E fan.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
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For his own sake, make sure he yanks the entire harness coming from the computer, through the firewall to the fan, as well as the ccrm, and engine/trans harness.

For you I'd puppies the whole front suspension, brakes etc, rear diff, brakes etc, wheels if you can and that's prob it. I guess you might want the E fan.


He knows to grab the engine goodies and modules, makes life easier, plus theres a brand new $600 alarm/ remote start on there we gotta get out.

the dash cracked in the middle form the hit, along with the door ripping across the leather (which was perfect) the inside is a waste... shame.

I think the only front suspension ill be getting is from the driver side. the pass side took the hit, I doubt i want anything from there for the sake of being bent, tweaked.

What about the rear susp? do I need to c00ch anything and everything that goes from the axle to the car? or just the axle itself? (quad links or whatever?) anything sitting on the axle itself is a sure bet, but i dont know what doesn't cross from sn to fox rear susp wise.

Also, the info I'm really looking for is if I use this sn-95 axle and eventually sn-95 front parts, the wheels will be evenly out at .25?
1988 T-Bird LX- Awaiting HO build, Monster "Eat My Shift" AOD rated 550Hp. BBK ceramic shorties, Jegs mustang (catless) H-Pipe. mustang catback modified axle back for tbird, 94 17" Cobra wheels, 98 'Stang GT 8.8 Traction-lock

wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

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I would just grab the axle and leave the trailing arms, i don't think they are any good to you. I "think" the rear width is the same as the tbirds, the front 96+ spindles are a touch wider. If they rub you can use fox mustang arms to bring the wheels back in. Some say they will, some say they won't.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

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I "think" the rear width is the same as the tbirds, the front 96+ spindles are a touch wider.


Now I'm confused on the info. The 88 tbird turbo had an 8.8 that was overall an inch wider than the mustang 8.8 of the same year (coolcats)

So, the sn-95 rear is actually the same or larger as a turbocoupe 8.8? As for the front, my stock setup rubs the inside anyway, lol. But- I just came across some coolcats info talking about offset. So even if the axles themselves dont line up, I can play with wheel offset on the rims to correct the difference? This isnt a problem, the only thing ive noticed is ford rims dont seem to offer different offsets. And its already hard enough to find 96 cobra wheels already, let alone be picky about it,

Thats why I want as stock a track as possible. Also, I wouldnt be able to use fox arms with a sn95 spindle, right? So I wouldnt be able to pull it in a touch. Or do I have that all messed up too?
1988 T-Bird LX- Awaiting HO build, Monster "Eat My Shift" AOD rated 550Hp. BBK ceramic shorties, Jegs mustang (catless) H-Pipe. mustang catback modified axle back for tbird, 94 17" Cobra wheels, 98 'Stang GT 8.8 Traction-lock

wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

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I thought the SN95 stangs rear axle was the same width as the 87-88 tbirds and the fox stang axles were the narrow ones. I could be giving you bad info though, im not up to date on those factiods. It's been awhile.

You can use fox arms and sn95 spindles.

As far as offsets and ford wheels go, im sure there are plenty of solutions. Ive seen all kinds of ford wheels on these cars weather its spacers, dofferent length axles, or a particular combination of arms, k member and/or spindles.

Wow, i really scanned over those pics and just now really looked at them, snikies that car is wrecked.....
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

Reply #6
the complete rear axle ASSY will bolt into your car.  as far as exact width i think its 1.5 inches wider overall but i dont know why i think that.  You will need turbo couple E brake cables for it with the disc brakes.  with brake components ford revised them in 2001.  so the 03 has a little better brakes.  for me i would snag the lower control arms, struts hubs, brake caliper and bracket.  just get new pads n rotors. Basically every bit of the front suspension i would grab... wouldnt hurt to grab the springs as well both front and rear.  Just my .02 cents

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Reply #7
Stop guessing on the rear axle assy width and look at the 2-3 threads that already cover that info.

94-98 Mustang rear axles are the same width overall as the Tbirds/Cougars, and the housings are the same width as the 87-88TC.  99-04 Mustang rear axles are wider, both in the housings and overall.  Check the stickied threads, find the chart that JeremyB did...
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And the brakes from 99-04 GTs are all the same.  Only Bullitts and Mach 1s got the 13" dia Brembo rotors and Cobra PBR brakes.

wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

Reply #9
looks like ill be buying the axle and misc parts from him, car was trashed. A few things look bent on the front corner but the spindles look untouched.

I came across a set of new gabriel sturts for the front, 99-03 v6 and gt (found in trash in orig plastic by buddy)

This means (minus the e-brake functionality) i can drop out my 7.5 and bolt the wider 8.8 in to my existing mounts? Im sure I'll have to redo my stainless brakelines for the changed setup, but other than that I would be able to LOT DRIVE the car fine? Same goes for the front spindles, minus higher quality parts and tweaks, I could drive it in and out of the barn?

Front end at this point requires sn-95 ball joints..... by using my fox arms...

Ill re-read this 5 times after i post but i think I have it down...
1988 T-Bird LX- Awaiting HO build, Monster "Eat My Shift" AOD rated 550Hp. BBK ceramic shorties, Jegs mustang (catless) H-Pipe. mustang catback modified axle back for tbird, 94 17" Cobra wheels, 98 'Stang GT 8.8 Traction-lock

 

wrecked 03 gt... tbird goodies?

Reply #10
as far as the rear end should be a rather quick bolt in and go minus e-brake function... for front i dont know for sure.  i would just do the front all in one go.