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MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Funky Cricket

been saying it for over 15 years, why aren't we making more ethonal?
why, cause the oil companies bought all the patents and are sitting on them, cuase they want to sell cheap oil at high prices



It's not that Big Oil bought all the patents to ethanol, because quite frankly, you can make your own.(in rather limited quantities..)
I'll be willing to bet, that when gas goes up to around 5 or so bucks a gallon, many many people are gonna be screaming about ethanol more loudly than they are now...I plan on either making my own, or something...
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #31 –
Just like I said. Right now gas is too cheap for people to seriously start looking for alternatives. It'll likely take more than five bucks a gallon, though - it's more than that here now...
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #32 –
On that note, some of you may have heard all the hype about bio-diesel.  Locally a farm cooperative has started making their own bio diesel on a mass scale, so I guess the prices are promoting change, especially for farmers where diesel costs amount to hundreds of thousands per year. 

I know many folk who make alcohol, but not exactly for fuel :)
But at $5 per liter that may change...

What does gas cost out east anyways.  We are 99.9 cents for regular (but through co-op we get about 10 cents per liter back at the end of the year) here in southern manitoba.

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #33 –
It's at 119.9 now, was up to 123.9 late last week, so it's actually come down a hair. When I heard on the radio that it was going up to 123.9 (from 112.5) I filled the Volvo, Dakota and two six gallon jerry cans. $150 later and I'm good for gas for a few weeks :D
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #34 –
From what i've been reading, congress passed a law last August requiring the phase out of MTBE as an oxygenator in gasoline.
This month is the deadline for the phase over.
The gas station underground tanks have to be emptied and cleaned to remove any water that may be in the bottom of the tanks.
Water will be absorbed by gas with ethanol and be degraded.
I guess if you have water in your car's tank that first tank of ethanol gas may give poor performance.

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #35 –
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I'll be willing to bet, that when gas goes up to around 5 or so bucks a gallon, many many people are gonna be screaming about ethanol more loudly than they are now


Yeah, I think $5.00 bucks a gallon is the magic number.  Thunder Chicken is right when the price goes up people look for other fuels, when it's down there isn't much pressure to do so.  The price just isn't high enough right now to get the average joe to take action.  It looks like the oil companies will just play cat and mouse with the price.  Raise it just enough to increase revenues and lower it just enough to lower the pressure of alternative fuels.  I think giving the farmers more work would be great.

My vote is for nuclear power cells to run our cars.  Think about it, you replace the cell once every 10,000 or 50,000 miles or so, or maybe it would last the life of the vehicle.  Of course every car wreck would be a potential nuclear crises.  lol.  Hey if it's good enough for the navy why not our cars.  And hey if your wife and kids glow they will be easier to find in the dark.  Vote for me for President, nuclear cars for all.  I've lost it, I know.  Jason.

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #36 –
I've been doing some reading and info-mongering on this subject..
Seems like hydrogen is going to be a viable option..it can be used dually, as well, in that it can be burned in the standard i/c engine, or with one of them there convertor type things, where the hydrogen passes thrugh a screen, seperates into water, and oxygen, with NO harmful emissions...Of course, it's a lot more complicated than that...
Not to knock nuclear powered, BUT..where'd we keep all that nuclear waste, there'd be a LOT, lol...also, the tech would be so expensive, many folks wouldnt be able to get it..
'98 Explorer 5.0
'20 Malibu (I know, Chevy, but, 35MPG. Let's go brandon, eh)
 

MTBE to Ethanol gas switch

Reply #37 –
Quote from: jasontbird
nuclear cars for all.


-Jim
1987 Cougar LS 5.0