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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #30
Quote from: shame302;372360
I don't believe it. If that's so then they certainly are not as delivered SSP Notch cars.

They can and do however, use recovered/confiscated cars how they see fit.


cars recovered from drug busts/impounds are used as 'D.A.R.E.' cars.. the notches may have been impound cars at 1 point, but the NJ State Police don't use them as they come.. there's a shop in central jersey (i believe) that handles all of the interceptors to load them up with all the fancy  they use, that rebuilt the notches for troopers.. none of them are built to 'showroom standards'
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #31
Like I said, I don't believe it. That's not to say i don't think i could be wrong. Regardless, they aren't SSP cars (and certainly not as delivered SSP Notches). I can't see the state spending money to mod/maintain these ancient things with build motors and blowers either. 20 years ago maybe. Id love to see info on them. Till I do I call B.S.
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #33
The cops in my hodunk county where I went to high school have an '02 Trans Am that they use to catch speeders....pretty cool car.
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #34
Supercharged corvettes are very common with the highway patrol out here. Although I do not think every department has a car, specifically for chases, I would still say it happends more then you think.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #35
Quote from: Haystack;372667
Supercharged corvettes are very common with the highway patrol out here. Although I do not think every department has a car, specifically for chases, I would still say it happends more then you think.
I was referring specifically to the SSP Notches. I'm fully aware of what's out there.

Quote from: gumby;371637
http://www.streetfire.net/video/Stolen-Thunderbird-Turbo_639584.htm
"Now the police will use them to "hide in plain sight to catch people breaking traffic laws"

"Now the police will use them to entrap people who otherwise would not have broken traffic laws."
FIXT
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #36
Can of worms....opened.
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Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
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FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #37
Quote from: shame302;372376
Like I said, I don't believe it. That's not to say i don't think i could be wrong. Regardless, they aren't SSP cars (and certainly not as delivered SSP Notches). I can't see the state spending money to mod/maintain these ancient things with build motors and blowers either. 20 years ago maybe. Id love to see info on them. Till I do I call B.S.


these cars weren't built recently, they have about 10 years of service under their belt.. and seeing as how there aren't many high speed chases in NJ, they're lightly used. they more than likely snagged the cars from the auction blocks at zero cost, in order to have a 1/4 of the money into them they normally would.. and lets be realistic.. why do we like foxes? it's not just the looks of the cars, but the great platform they provide to build on.. they're cheaper to build than 4.6 garbage SN95's and there are still plenty of companies out there producing parts for them.. so it's not all that 'unbelievable' if you actually break it down and think about it


cops and the BS they pull is just like the  politicians pull.. and we have to sit back and deal with it the same way.. GET SCREWED and deal with the consequences.. i lost my license when i was 18 (after only having it for 7-8 months) because of d***bag cops pulling the usual  of suspecting a kid in a fast car of being up to something.. they would pull me over for doing 2mph over the speed limit.. and to this day, i HATE cops with an undying passion unless a cop shows me he's a decent guy.. 1 of my good friends is a narcotics detective and he said uniform officers are notorious for nailing 'kids' because they think it's fun to watch them squirm
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3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #38
Quote from: Shadow;372694
these cars weren't built recently, they have about 10 years of service under their belt.. and seeing as how there aren't many high speed chases in NJ, they're lightly used. they more than likely snagged the cars from the auction blocks at zero cost, in order to have a 1/4 of the money into them they normally would
Perhaps. Still don't believe it.

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4.6 garbage SN95's
I love how you bang on the snives. Arguably, the cobra based cars are better than a fox in every way (factory to factory) save for weight. Almost every car out there gains weight with age just like the average floppy wife.

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and there are still plenty of companies out there producing parts for them.. so it's not all that 'unbelievable' if you actually break it down and think about it
Yes, there are. Lets face it though, the cars are old. Government doesn't maintain old junk, they purchase new stuff. The likelihood of staties rocking a 20 year old notch mustang us uber low and if they are out there, are obviously a specialty thing. I don't think I've seen an interceptor older than '01 if it was a ford. Otherwise they are chargers.


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cops and the BS they pull is just like the  politicians pull.. and we have to sit back and deal with it the same way.. GET SCREWED and deal with the consequences.. i lost my license when i was 18 (after only having it for 7-8 months) because of d***bag cops pulling the usual  of suspecting a kid in a fast car of being up to something.. they would pull me over for doing 2mph over the speed limit.. and to this day, i HATE cops with an undying passion unless a cop shows me he's a decent guy.. 1 of my good friends is a narcotics detective and he said uniform officers are notorious for nailing 'kids' because they think it's fun to watch them squirm
You lost your license because you broke the law. It wasn't their fault regardless of weather or not they were giving you shiznit for "whatever" reason.
:america: 1988 Thunderbird Sport, Former 4.6 DOHC T56 conversion project.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.

 
Halfbreed... Mango Orange Y2K Mustang GT
FRPP complete 2000 Cobra engine swap, T56 n' junk...
~John~

i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #39
i hate mod motors, what can i say? in my beliefs, V8's should all be OHV, not OHC.. i hate them and that's my opinion, i'm entitled to it.. but you can't tell me it's cheaper to work a 4.6 over an OHV 5.0, that would be a utter lie. do they throw down more power off the assembly line? sure, can't argue that, but they're still more expensive..

FYI, they're still running early 90's caprices around here in some towns.. other towns have de-police badged them and they're now 'township' cars for zoning officials and munil officials.. so it's not all that 'hard to believe' that they are keeping older cars in service


and it's not my fault i lost my license.. multiple times i was getting passed by people doing at least 10mph over the speed limit with the cop up MY ass.. in jersey, when you take drivers ed, they tell you to keep up with the flow of traffic for safety reasons.. there are people passing me in the left lane and i get pulled over? it's called profiling.. so tell me how that's MY fault.. i still drive the same way, but now i'm 25 and appear much older because i have a beard.. know when my last ticket was? OVER 3 years ago.. same cops, same towns and zero problems in over 3 years with the EXACT same driving habits.. and for the record.. my last ticket was for 'failure to maintain lamps'.. no tag lights ;)
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i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #40
Just for fun someone should do a photochop of one of our cars painted in police livery :rollin:

As just about everyone knows, making our cars fast is always a series of compromises...with my engine mods I've gained a bunch of HP, but my stock gearing (2.73?) makes it a a dog off the line but preserves fuel economy. The stock 87 computer has no speed limiter so top speed should be very good, though of course the suspension would need serious upgrades to be useful as a highway patrol interceptor. Still, it's fun to speculate :D
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Reply #41
Thunderchicken used to have pictures of an 88 supercoupe motored car with police stickers

All and all, 90% of cars out there, if not more, are never brought above factory spec. On thing that fleet vehicles do a lot, is order a ton of the same vehicle. That way they do not have to stock 10 diffrent oil filters or work on 10 engines. Most cop cars are decommisioned after only 2-3 years of service out here. They have passed laws against them. Here its against the law for a taxi cab to have over 200k.

My experiance is, if cops are harassing you, its your fault. I've had two tickets in the last two years.one, I rear ended someone, the other I missed a speed limit sign.  Before that I hadn't gotten a ticket in more then 5. When I was 16 I washiznit with at least 10 tickets my first year. And I can tell you exactly what changed, and it wasn't the car I was driving or how I looked. It was how I drove.

The station wagon has helped out some though. No matter how fast I am going on the freeway, someone HAS to pass me.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #42
Quote from: Haystack;372788
The station wagon has helped out some though. No matter how fast I am going on the freeway, someone HAS to pass me.


i can understand why.. a lot of people don't want to be seen going slower than a station wagon.. me included, but i'm not going to do 10-15mph over the speed limit to pass 1 like most 'hot shots' would.. lol
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R.I.P. 'Zump' 8/29/86 - 11/11/11
3- 87 TC's / 1 really mean 83 Capri RS / 94 Sonoma SAS Project on 37x12.50 TSL Radials / 88 S10 that's LITERALLY cut to pieces / 84 F150 SAS, 351M, 39.5 TSL's / 85 Toyota regular cab, 22R 5spd, 3/4" drop, my little junkyard save/daily driver

i always wondered how our cars would do in a chase

Reply #43
I stick to 5 or less over. 90% of the time or more, I'm in the slow lane with my cruize on.

Funny how much better of a driver I am after the two kids.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

 

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Reply #44
One of my friends had a 1970 Thunderbird with a 429 thunderjet in it. We outran and/or outmaneuvered The Man many times in it.

So, one of the reasons he got rid of it was, circa 1993 it was a rare and distinct car around here, so he sold it because you-know-who was always on the lookout for that car.

Too bad. it was in great shape; almost showroom condition.