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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: 88turbo on August 26, 2006, 12:53:49 PM

Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 88turbo on August 26, 2006, 12:53:49 PM
I need to raise the rear of my TC, when I have a full tank of fuel the rear of the car really sags and with the way they put my exhaust in everytime I go over a bump the rear comes up and smacks them.  I tried 94 convertible mustang springs but they seemed to lower it a bit maybe I should of asked before I started gathering parts.  does anyone know of a set of springs that would raise the rear of a TC?  Thanks, Graham
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 87badbird2613 on August 26, 2006, 01:53:08 PM
is your car lowered..if not  i found that the moog cargo coils are awesome    i could put six dead bodies in my trunk wth a full tank o gas and still the car sits straight.. and its rides nice tooo
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: shame302 on August 26, 2006, 03:04:46 PM
buy my control arms, they will fix that.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: BIGmeat15071 on August 26, 2006, 08:37:25 PM
Quote from: 87badbird2613
i could put six dead bodies in my trunk wth a full tank o gas and still the car sits straight..
How did you figure that one out? :nono:  :giggle:

Back to the topic, I was curious about those convertible springs.  I have the front lowered with Suspension Techniques, but have the normal tbird springs that ford sells in the back.  Do those springs lower the ride any?  Also, do they stiffen up the ride any?  The springs I have in the rear now feel pretty bouncy compared to the front, and I would like to find a new spring for the rear to stiffen up the ride.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: EricCoolCats on August 26, 2006, 09:06:50 PM
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i found that the moog cargo coils are awesome

I second that motion. Been using the same pair of Moog coils since 1993...on 3 different cars...currently residing in the convertible, which is really heavy due to the subframe connectors from hell, plus all the stiffening/tubing/convertible top stuff, plus the stereo equipment in the trunk. Ride height is perfect, ride is very acceptible. I think they're about $125 US/pair last time I checked.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 88turbo on August 26, 2006, 10:05:36 PM
my car wasnt lowered as far as I know....  will the moog cargo coils raise it from the stock ride hight?  you can even see how bad its sagging in my sig :(  I want the slightly raised look in the rear.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 88turbo on August 26, 2006, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: shame302
buy my control arms, they will fix that.


what kind and how much? I have found that the upper passenger control arm was loose on the differential end and wore a slot in the bolt hole. :(  I hate finding these things but then its better for me to know now than to have something serious happen down the line..
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Post by: Bird351 on August 26, 2006, 11:16:54 PM
Eric, I thought you or someone else here said they don't make/sell cargo coils anymore?

I would love to pick the ass end of my '89 Mark up a bit.. even on an almost new spring conversion kit the ass end sits a little lower than I want it to, and I emptied the trunk out weeks ago. One thing I regret about not having the air suspension anymore.. :(
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: EricCoolCats on August 26, 2006, 11:32:02 PM
I don't know if they're under the Moog brand anymore, but it seems TRW makes heavy-duty variable rate springs with the same part number as the Moog ones:

Part No.
CC823      
TRW VARIABLE RATE SPRINGS TRW
Rear; Heavy Duty/Cargo; Variable Rate; Hef-T-Coil; Set Of Two
Warranty: Lifetime Replacement Warranty
$67.48


If this link works.... http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?parttype=60&ptset=A&searchfor=Coil+Spring%2c+Rear
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 87badbird2613 on August 27, 2006, 03:04:29 AM
yes i had mine for almost 5 years and no problems ..    the ride is quite nice
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: shame302 on August 27, 2006, 08:54:01 AM
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what kind and how much? I have found that the upper passenger control arm was loose on the differential end and wore a slot in the bolt hole. :( I hate finding these things but then its better for me to know now than to have something serious happen down the line..

they are CHE fixed uppers and adjustable ride height lowers. take a look at their website. they are about 320 for the standard finnish, 350 for custom. i got mine with no finnish so i could powdercoat them a custom color. they still have no finnish on them. i can have them pc gloss black, black wrinckle and i think silver for free but it would take about a week for me to get them back. i have them listed for 275. if you are interested in them and serious maybe we can work something out. take a look at CHEs site and look them up.
 
i need to lits all the  i have for sale sepperately....
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: Cougar5.0 on August 27, 2006, 09:30:16 AM
I am using the CHE arms for that purpose as well. Well, I also use them to raise the rear to clear the 28" drag radials so they don't hit the inner fender.
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Post by: David on August 27, 2006, 02:11:18 PM
It looks like Autozone carries these variable rate rear springs as well.  It appears the be the same part number, and they match up when I pull up a different car.  This should be pretty good considering there are only Autozone's around here.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 88turbo on September 09, 2006, 06:29:37 PM
CC823-moog cargo coil is what I ended up using.  I now have the ride I want and the aproximate ride height that I was looking for.  but I think it could be a bit higher.
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Post by: Metal Matt on March 21, 2007, 02:52:50 PM
I'm looking on parts america at the springs, and for the front it says Elan and except elan. Whats elan?
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: 88turbo on March 21, 2007, 05:16:56 PM
elan was a model of thunderbird, there are a few of them floating around on here. I'm not sure of the years they were made but I know they werent made in 87.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: merccougar50 on March 21, 2007, 06:33:52 PM
The TRW name replaced MOOG up here in Canada.  I would assume they are all the same parts, as both are brand names of Federal Mogual.
Title: need to raise the rear please help..
Post by: ipsd on March 22, 2007, 02:23:31 AM
You could always just put on some Air Shocks. LOL. I just bought spirngs for my 84 turbo coupe 2 years ago. I just got factory replacments. Mine were broken in the front. I just bought the MOOG brand springs. I got out the moog spring book and looked them up myself. I could not believe it when the local warehouse had them in stock. I do remeber there being a difference in the trubo coupe vs the 5.0 and such. Go with what MOOG tells you unless you can't find a place that carries them near you.  I got mine though Oreilly's