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Title: Look what i did!
Post by: Tbird232ci on August 05, 2006, 10:10:46 AM
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I dont know what happened. I was taking my girlfriend home, was coming off of an on-ramp at about 1/2 throttle in 2nd gear, built about 15psi, it surged, and i heard a wonderful grinding noise. This is what i found today.
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Post by: 1WLD BRD on August 05, 2006, 10:52:16 AM
ah man that sucks!
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Post by: 88turbo on August 05, 2006, 11:11:58 AM
Shawn, I'm in the same situation......  so dont feel like your the only one :mad: only I think I got the exhaust turbine..  I'll look further into it today.  I can make about 5psi max
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 05, 2006, 11:24:27 AM
I did that too, in my Volvo, on Christmas day, two days after I bought it. 200 miles from home. Sucks, don't it? :(
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 05, 2006, 11:42:09 AM
Well, whats interesting is that the turbo itself isnt done for. The bearings are still good, theres little-to-no shaft play, it spins freely, its just the wheel got chewed up. It doesnt appear that anything got in there, so its possible that compressor surge took its toll.
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on August 05, 2006, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
Well, whats interesting is that the turbo itself isnt done for. The bearings are still good, theres little-to-no shaft play, it spins freely, its just the wheel got chewed up. It doesnt appear that anything got in there, so its possible that compressor surge took its toll.


Dunno looks like sumpthin' went through it to me.... Anyway if the bearings ain't bad now they will be, cause its gonna be big time out of ballance... Possibly a piece of the impeller broke and went through it, course guess that gets back to compressor surge...
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 05, 2006, 12:21:06 PM
Im babying the car untill i pick up another turbo, right now, the plan is to buy a turbo better suited for my setup, and keeping this one. After a while, i want to build it, using a stage 3 turbine housing, a super V wheel and compressor housing, maybe some drop-in ball bearings, and let it sit untill i either build up a nasty engine, or blow another turbo.

I have a turbo in mind, im waiting for some feedback from the company, and probably within 2 weeks, ill have turbo waiting for the car.
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Post by: 88turbo on August 05, 2006, 01:18:11 PM
I am looking for a new turbo as well but not really wanting to go with another TO4E.  but then not wanting to spend an arm and a leg for one.
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Post by: Samantha on August 05, 2006, 01:20:41 PM
I'm sorry to hear what happened to your car, shawn.
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Post by: ipsd on August 05, 2006, 01:40:07 PM
That sucks. Maybe you can just get an insert to replace it. I would tell you to go over to turboford.net. They might have some used turbo's in the for sale section. Also they could help you with making a good turbo selection for you setup
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 05, 2006, 02:28:50 PM
I found the turbo that will work well for my setup, its a T3/T04E 50-trim. Im waiting on a reply from the seller to see what turbine housing it has on it. Its also an "antisurge" turbo, so im waiting on a reply on the details about that.
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Post by: tbirdscott on August 05, 2006, 02:50:44 PM
Been there done that, in my case the nut that hold the wheel to the shaft was rattling around in the housing... and the exhaust wheel was in the cat.

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i11/turbosprunt/P2230009.jpg)
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Post by: thunderjet302 on August 05, 2006, 03:25:21 PM
That sucks.
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Post by: cougarcragar on August 05, 2006, 07:19:01 PM
Holy bacon.
I guess I have one more thing to worry about...
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Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on August 05, 2006, 08:44:23 PM
Sucks man , but now it is time for an upgrade :)
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Post by: xr7cat on August 05, 2006, 09:17:13 PM
Always nice to find things that break when you least suppect it, at least you found what broke right away, I am still looking for the cause of some problems on my truck! lol

daniel
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Post by: Red_LX on August 05, 2006, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: cougarcragar
Holy bacon.
I guess I have one more thing to worry about...


Ah I wouldn't worry too much, I have yet to have any major turbo problems (knock on wood)

With the factory T3 on your cougar you'll be fine.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 06, 2006, 12:21:08 AM
Its 100% done for now. Its pumping oil into the intake, so the bearings finally let go. Ill just block off the oil feed, and baby it.
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Post by: cougarcragar on August 06, 2006, 12:23:18 AM
Quote from: Red_LX
Ah I wouldn't worry too much, I have yet to have any major turbo problems (knock on wood)

With the factory T3 on your cougar you'll be fine.


Yeah, but the car smokes more than I do.
I plan on a complete rebuild within the next year.
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Post by: Blackout on August 06, 2006, 02:15:54 AM
That sucks.  Well, at least you have an excuse to upgrade now.
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Post by: tbirdscott on August 06, 2006, 02:44:04 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
Its 100% done for now. Its pumping oil into the intake, so the bearings finally let go. Ill just block off the oil feed, and baby it.
that sucks, I was lucky that when my turbo went some sludge plugged up the oil feed line solid (probabally led to the turbos demise in the first place) if your no longer making boost remove the intake tubes from the turbo and route them together you will get a bit more power out of it.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 06, 2006, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: Birdman
That sucks.  Well, at least you have an excuse to upgrade now.

Thing that sucks is, it was already a hybrid!
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Post by: 88turbo on August 06, 2006, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
I found the turbo that will work well for my setup, its a T3/T04E 50-trim.Its also an "antisurge" turbo, so


Shawn, what do you mean by this?  mine surged well I could hear what I thought was it surging :dunno:

I guess it will be another TO4E for me since they are a dime a dozen.....
Title: Look what i did!
Post by: Tbird232ci on August 06, 2006, 12:27:01 PM
Theres two different meanings to the term "compressor surge"

One meaning is the more common, when the throttle blade closes, and the air is forced back through the turbo.

The other meaning is when the turbo is pushing more air than the engine will physically take, as in a large restriction, and the turbo "hiccups" because the air is forcing back to the turbo.
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Post by: 88turbo on August 06, 2006, 01:18:52 PM
so by antisurge your meaning that you shouldnt need a BOV? I'm still totally clueless on this subject but I guess this is why your here :D