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Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 21, 2006, 08:20:35 PM
a local dealer has been getting in Ford P71 cruisers by the dozen...there was 50 of them last week...you should see the back lot...like 10-20 old cruisers...I'm in the market for one too...I could luck out!!! :D  looking to spend 2k to get one
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: 84 Fila on July 21, 2006, 08:23:16 PM
I have 1!!! 1990 Crown Victoria P71
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 21, 2006, 08:28:19 PM
cool man...my bro had a '88 Gran marquis that was a detectives car...I'm actually looking for a '92-current style with the 4.6 v8 though...my uncle has a Caprice 9c1 with the 350 TBI...fast car...but I like the P71 handling better
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: 84 Fila on July 21, 2006, 08:29:49 PM
It's the best I've felt in a big car
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Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 21, 2006, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: 84 Fila
It's the best I've felt in a big car

 straight...I test drove a '00 P71  that thing was awesome
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Post by: 84 Fila on July 21, 2006, 08:32:59 PM
Well, mine is a 90 and it's old school kickass. The look, the feel...
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Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 21, 2006, 08:34:40 PM
the sheer horror on peoples faces when you race them lol
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Post by: 84 Fila on July 21, 2006, 08:48:31 PM
Nothing like killin a ricer in a fullsize with 5 freinds in the car
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Post by: 84 Fila on July 21, 2006, 08:49:05 PM
And I'm running open headers so I can see the fear thing
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2314811/1 (http://"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2314811/1")
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2314000-2314999/2314811_16_full.jpg)
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 21, 2006, 09:34:27 PM
Aww hell, my work has about 105 CVPI"s out back (could be more, could be less, our shop's contract is to hold 105). I'd like to have a new CVPI, but I'd never own a used one. Those cars are brought in absolutely beat.
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Post by: V8Demon on July 22, 2006, 12:04:35 PM
The 05's and 06's feel real heavy and slower than the 03-04's.  This is what happens when you add things like adjustable foot pedals.  I don't like what they did to the column shifter or the key turn on the ignition either.
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 22, 2006, 10:16:45 PM
The thing I hear the most complaints about is that ed seat belt chime. Ford should have done what Dodge did (make the chime go off only when the vehicle is moving), but instead the thing goes nuts every 30 seconds as long as the engine is running. A royal pain for the cop sitting in the car using the computer or writing tickets...

I don't think I've laid eyes on any 06's yet - hell, we're still doing up 03's. The RCMP bought a shiznitload back then and they still aren't all in service yet. We have done up a bunch of 04's and 05's, but there are still several brand new 03's on the lot...
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: V8Demon on July 23, 2006, 11:37:36 AM
Seat belt extenders take care of the seat belt chime.....
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 23, 2006, 04:10:32 PM
well I went to the dealership Sat afternoon...gonna hammer out the details monday...lets just say "they want the cars off the lot" and offered 1700 for my pickup;)
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Post by: Haystack on July 23, 2006, 08:50:09 PM
I got a 91 crown vic I used drive all the time. Station wagons kick ass.
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Post by: tbirdscott on July 23, 2006, 11:25:36 PM
Quote from: Paul Flockhart
Seat belt extenders take care of the seat belt chime.....

Dont cop cars come from the factory with those :flip:
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Post by: 1FSTCAT on July 24, 2006, 08:57:25 AM
Quote from: 86Tbuzzard
well I went to the dealership Sat afternoon...gonna hammer out the details monday...lets just say "they want the cars off the lot" and offered 1700 for my pickup;)


Good luck. Maybe you'll be able to do something with your trade-in, and if they're feeling generous you'll strike a deal.

Don't listen to Fila. These cars AREN'T fast. A 16 second 1/4 mile time is beat by about 3/4 of the new cars on the road. That and "they remove the Interceptor before they sell them" :shoothead

The 87-91's with a 5.0 were good for the same 155 HP that most other 5.0's of the generation were good for. That translates to vision blurring 17.5 second 1/4 mile times. If you get "lucky" and get a 351 car, you'll get maybe a half second improvement, to 17.0 seconds!

Don't buy one because it's fast, buy one because they're a hell of a deal for the money, for a late-model, full size car.

Sorry guys, but just like most Thunderbirds and Cougars, if you want a fast Crown Vic, you're going to do what Ford never did, and build it.
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Post by: 84 Fila on July 24, 2006, 01:38:53 PM
When did I say something about CVPI's being fast. I said they were faster them some, not a Ferrari. They are good, solid cars. After I get the thunderchick squared away I want to do somethings to the Vic'. 1fstcat, wana help me with some idea's seeing as you have 2 PI's and seem to know much more then me.
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Post by: V8Demon on July 25, 2006, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: tbirdscott
Dont cop cars come from the factory with those


Maybe, but they're not made for me!
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Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 25, 2006, 10:25:36 PM
deal fell through...they sold them ALL to one company...I'm looking at a '96 for $1900 *retail* BODY IS MINT which is strange for Maine. gonna sell my truck for $1700 obo probably will get 1300-1500 for it lol...not perfect...but dependable work truck...I'm getting a CVPI because it's a crown vic with factory duals/suspension ect...I will modify it...but it'll be a cruiser not a racer...the TBird is my "race-car"
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Post by: 1FSTCAT on July 26, 2006, 09:47:58 AM
That's not a bad deal for a clean '96, if it's nice. I bought my daily driver for $1000 (administrative car with carpet, never had a spotlight), and painted it for another $500, added the '98+ brakes and did some other minor repairs.

I like the 96's and 97's the most, of all the recent bodies, mostly because of the better gas mileage. The spark plug wires seem to be more reliable, as well. Of course, there's plusses and minusses with all the different years, so most people will feel differently about each year model.

Sure, Fila. I'd be happy to consult on such a project. You'll also find a great "Box Body" forum at http://www.crownvic.net.

 --Ed
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: 86Tbuzzard on July 26, 2006, 09:40:26 PM
I have the purchase order...just waiting for the bank to OK it...

[SIZE="5"]HOWEVER[/SIZE] I didn't get the '96...a guy bought it as I walked through the door!!!! So the owner gave a heck of a deal on a '01 CVPI...$4000 139k  retail was about $6000 It is dark blue...sweet looking/driving car
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Post by: billboehm on October 05, 2007, 08:06:08 PM
Anyone ever heard of arizona cops usung cougars as a hotrod interceptor? one guy i work with from tuscon claims they do.
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Post by: HAVI on October 05, 2007, 09:09:51 PM
don't know, but my county has an SN95 Mustang, and the state patrol uses all black Dodge Magnums.
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Post by: 88FoxBird on October 05, 2007, 09:46:05 PM
Theres a car lot not far from me that regularly sells cop cars between $500 and $2000. Almost got a '96 for $750 body was decent but the interior was tore to hell.
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Post by: billboehm on October 05, 2007, 11:49:28 PM
Which body is the SN95? did that come after the fox styles or the pointier one after that?
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Post by: HAVI on October 05, 2007, 11:57:53 PM
it's like a 99 mustang coupe.  And it has D.A.R.E. on the sides.
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Post by: bhazard on October 05, 2007, 11:59:53 PM
sn95 is 94-04. They got restyled in 99 and thats the 'pointy' ones.
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Post by: Carpimp1987 on October 06, 2007, 06:31:01 AM
I would like to get me a 2003-2004 P71 for like $3,000-$4,500 in good shape with kind of low miles Got to find me some car to get a set of FR500s for.

Hope you get one soon for a good price.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 06, 2007, 08:00:52 AM
Quote from: billboehm;181067
Anyone ever heard of arizona cops usung cougars as a hotrod interceptor? one guy i work with from tuscon claims they do.

I know the local mounties had a few MN12 Thunderbirds as undercover cars (including one in that weird colour-changing purple, nothing like drawing attention to an undercover car). They're all long gone now, though, as the newest one would be 10 years old...
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Post by: billboehm on October 06, 2007, 10:07:56 AM
So when they sell a police interceptor, do they strip the motor back to stock or sell as is?
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on October 06, 2007, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: billboehm;181142
So when they sell a police interceptor, do they strip the motor back to stock or sell as is?

AFIK the engines are basically stock with dual exaust and some add on severe duty parts, silicone hoses, oil cooler etc... You get many of the same parts with a trailer tow package(including the dual exhaust)...

And if you are talking Stang those are also stock with just some heavy duty add ons...
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: billboehm on October 06, 2007, 10:42:40 AM
No i mean the hardcore police station hotrod models that they use to catch street racers and hotrods on the run. My friend from tuscon claims they have cougars for  that down there. Maybe cuz they're heavier to do more damage if they have to clip the runner.
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Post by: 1BadBird on October 06, 2007, 11:26:14 AM
From what a FLM service manager friend told me when I asked him about the "Police Interseptor" package. The engine has a more aggressive tune to it and that the various shops were supposed to detune them before resale to the public. The handling/cooling package is supposed to have slightly higher rates/capacities. Just like Ford has a "Severe OffRoad Package" only available to oil companies, Foreign country security companies. Those trucks are not available to the public period.
Title: holy cop cars!
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 06, 2007, 02:55:14 PM
The CVPI engines and tuning are the same as the civvy models, except as Tom noted (heavy duty cooling, etc). I believe the speed limiter has been "tuned" out of them as well, but basic engine tuning is the same. I build police cars for a living, and I also "unbuild" them to get them ready for auction once decommissioned. There is no "police" calibration. CVPI's also have the usual rubber floors, vinyl back seats, disabled rear inner door handles and windows, de-chromed interior parts such as door handles, and exterior door side molding delete.

If there are any police stations that have "hot-rodded" vehicles they either did the hot-rodding themselves or had it done in the aftermarket. Some police departments also use vehicles that they seize as enforcement vehicles, so if they nab a street racer it's not out of the question that they have a car set up for street racing.
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Post by: V8Demon on October 07, 2007, 08:05:17 PM
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I believe the speed limiter has been "tuned" out of them as well, but basic engine tuning is the same.


Correct

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CVPI's also have the usual rubber floors


Funny you mentioned this.  We have ONE at work with carpet.  The first time I sat in it I was slightly baffled.....